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The (paid!) iOS client has always been a disappointment to me, and I've long been jealous of the open source Android one. I don't mind so much that it's paid,

by __float 8mo ago

The (paid!) iOS client has always been a disappointment to me, and I've long been jealous of the open source Android one. I don't mind so much that it's paid, given how much use I get for the price, but it sucks knowing it sucks and not being able to help make it better.

3D30497420 8mo ago
Agreed. I’m particularly excited that they’ll be investing in the UI/UX.
hermanzegerman 8mo ago
I've just bought it to support the developer, as it was according to his website his preferred way to support him.
divan 8mo ago
Is it still 25$ price? Makes it impossible to recommend Anki to friends/students to "try spaced repetition".
- Larrikin 8mo ago
  Just have them use it on their computer or the web? It improved my grades so much in college that I spent the 25 bucks as a broke student so I could have it on my second hand iPad. This was before AnkiDroid even existed so it's amazing the price is still the same.
  - divan 8mo ago
    That works for people who already convinced that they want to use it. I'm talking about people who've heard it for the first time and they're not going to spend 25$ for some new app just to try. 25$ is unusually high price for an AppStore app and it's just doesn't work unless you're really determined to use it. I don't understand why people are downvoting this.
    - hermanzegerman 8mo ago
      They can just use the computer version then, and buy it when they know it's useful for them?
      - divan 8mo ago
        Some people would need to buy computer first. Again, it's very hard to recommend mobile app to people if you need to add these kind of "workarounds". Especially for the main target audience - young students – many of whom live in their mobile phones and not used to spend 25$ for apps.
        hermanzegerman 8mo ago
        Every university student in the Western world has access to a Computer, and those who are poor usually have an Android Phone (with free AnkiDroid) and not a very expensive iPhone. If they can afford an iPhone they can afford the App I think this "problem" is somewhat made up
        divan 8mo ago
        Well, I don't want to sound patronizing, but the world is so much bigger than your notion of "Western world" where every student with iPhone has computer.
        Larrikin 8mo ago
        You are patronizing. Every student with an iPhone has access to a computer even if it isn't their own. If they are so poor that none of their facilities have one then they have a cheap Android. This fictional person you describe also has access to the web and Anki on there. Anki is not a very useful tool if you are not making or editing your own decks or a teacher is for you. This is an incredibly painful experience on mobile.
        hermanzegerman 8mo ago
- bonsai_spool 8mo ago
  The web client works just fine!
  - divan 8mo ago
    "Hey, there is an amazing app for learning, but it costs 25$ for your iPhone, so just use web version instead". Very appealing, makes people try app immediately. :)
    - bonsai_spool 8mo ago
      I think you essentially have to use the desktop version no matter what—so the real dichotomy is whether you want to use a free program with free online hosting with the bundled (free) web application... or if you want to buy a $25 app. It seems a lot like saying nobody should use GMail unless they agree to pay for premium Google Services.
      - divan 8mo ago
        I don't have this problem. I bought iOS Anki app for myself many years ago. What I found hard is to recommend it to others, who never heard about spaced repetition yet, especially to young students, who arguably is the main target audience for this kind of tools. They just not jumping into buying 25$ app to try it. As soon as you start mentioning switching to laptop, using web/desktop - they're not jumping into it either. I don't know maybe you all have different experience, but that's what I experienced over the years and it always felt sad, because this price is a prohibitively high for many people.
pushedx 8mo ago
I use the iOS app daily, and while it's not the prettiest thing in the world, it has nearly every feature of the desktop client, including full scripting support for card contents, which is amazing for things like collapsable elements and media. And, at the end of the day, it's about what you learn from using it that matters.
- __float 8mo ago
  That's part of my problem. I actually don't love how many billion options Anki has, and I'd love something with a more opinionated UI. (I think the data model underneath Anki is...showing its age (and lack of explicit design) and building that on top of it would not be too easy. I've thought about it a few times.)

by __float 8mo ago

3D30497420 8mo ago

Agreed. I’m particularly excited that they’ll be investing in the UI/UX.

hermanzegerman 8mo ago

I've just bought it to support the developer, as it was according to his website his preferred way to support him.

divan 8mo ago

Is it still 25$ price? Makes it impossible to recommend Anki to friends/students to "try spaced repetition".

Larrikin 8mo ago
Just have them use it on their computer or the web? It improved my grades so much in college that I spent the 25 bucks as a broke student so I could have it on my second hand iPad. This was before AnkiDroid even existed so it's amazing the price is still the same.
- divan 8mo ago
  That works for people who already convinced that they want to use it. I'm talking about people who've heard it for the first time and they're not going to spend 25$ for some new app just to try. 25$ is unusually high price for an AppStore app and it's just doesn't work unless you're really determined to use it. I don't understand why people are downvoting this.
  - hermanzegerman 8mo ago
    They can just use the computer version then, and buy it when they know it's useful for them?
    - divan 8mo ago
      Some people would need to buy computer first. Again, it's very hard to recommend mobile app to people if you need to add these kind of "workarounds". Especially for the main target audience - young students – many of whom live in their mobile phones and not used to spend 25$ for apps.
      - hermanzegerman 8mo ago
        Every university student in the Western world has access to a Computer, and those who are poor usually have an Android Phone (with free AnkiDroid) and not a very expensive iPhone. If they can afford an iPhone they can afford the App I think this "problem" is somewhat made up
        divan 8mo ago
        Well, I don't want to sound patronizing, but the world is so much bigger than your notion of "Western world" where every student with iPhone has computer.
        Larrikin 8mo ago
        You are patronizing. Every student with an iPhone has access to a computer even if it isn't their own. If they are so poor that none of their facilities have one then they have a cheap Android. This fictional person you describe also has access to the web and Anki on there. Anki is not a very useful tool if you are not making or editing your own decks or a teacher is for you. This is an incredibly painful experience on mobile.
        hermanzegerman 8mo ago
bonsai_spool 8mo ago
The web client works just fine!
- divan 8mo ago
  "Hey, there is an amazing app for learning, but it costs 25$ for your iPhone, so just use web version instead". Very appealing, makes people try app immediately. :)
  - bonsai_spool 8mo ago
    I think you essentially have to use the desktop version no matter what—so the real dichotomy is whether you want to use a free program with free online hosting with the bundled (free) web application... or if you want to buy a $25 app. It seems a lot like saying nobody should use GMail unless they agree to pay for premium Google Services.
    - divan 8mo ago
      I don't have this problem. I bought iOS Anki app for myself many years ago. What I found hard is to recommend it to others, who never heard about spaced repetition yet, especially to young students, who arguably is the main target audience for this kind of tools. They just not jumping into buying 25$ app to try it. As soon as you start mentioning switching to laptop, using web/desktop - they're not jumping into it either. I don't know maybe you all have different experience, but that's what I experienced over the years and it always felt sad, because this price is a prohibitively high for many people.

pushedx 8mo ago

I use the iOS app daily, and while it's not the prettiest thing in the world, it has nearly every feature of the desktop client, including full scripting support for card contents, which is amazing for things like collapsable elements and media. And, at the end of the day, it's about what you learn from using it that matters.

__float 8mo ago
That's part of my problem. I actually don't love how many billion options Anki has, and I'd love something with a more opinionated UI. (I think the data model underneath Anki is...showing its age (and lack of explicit design) and building that on top of it would not be too easy. I've thought about it a few times.)