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Anthropic has a model. Microsoft doesn't.
by paxys 9mo ago
Anthropic has a model. Microsoft doesn't.
- satvikpendem 9mo agoMicrosoft can use OpenAI models but it's not the model that's the problem, it's the application of them. Anthropic simply knows how to execute better.
- bhadass 9mo agothey should just acquire one of the many agent code harnesses. Something like opencode works just as well as claude-code and has only been around half of the time.
- w0m 9mo agoI used opencode happily for a while before switching to copilot cli. Been a minute , but I don't detect a major quality difference since they added Plan mode. Seems pretty solid, and first party if that matters to your org.
- formerly_proven 9mo agoAs evidenced by Anthropic models not performing well in github presents copilot.
- speedgoose 9mo agoI read that a few times but from my personal observations, Claude Opus 4.5 is not significantly different in GitHub Copilot. The maximum context size is smaller for sure, but I don’t think the model remembers that well when the context is huge.
- doomslayer999 9mo agoAnthropic's Models are better though. It may not "perform" as well on the LLM task benchmarks, but its the only one that actual gives semi-intelligent responses and seems aligned with human wants. And yes, they definitely have much better execution. It's the only one I considered shelling out 20 bucks for.
- satvikpendem 9mo agoGPT 5.2 Codex is often better and more thorough than Opus 4.5, it's just slower.
- pixl97 9mo agoMicrosoft has a model nearly as old as the company. Attempt to build a product... Fail. Buy someone else's product/steal someone else's product... Succeed.
- Octoth0rpe 9mo agoThat's a "business" model, not a language model, which I believe is what the poster is referring to. In any case though, MS does have a number of models, most notably Phi. I don't think anyone is using them for significant work though.
- pixl97 9mo agoIt's a word play, if their LLM model sucks too much they'll get someone else's. I mean they fought the browser war for years, then just used Chrome.
- torginus 9mo agoWhich is kind of a bummer - it'd have helped the standards based web to have an actual powerful entity maintain a distinct implementation. Firefox is on life-support and is basically taking code from Blink wholesale, and Webkit isn't really interested in making a browser thats particularly compliant to web standards. MS's calculus was obvious - why spend insane amounts of engineering effort to make a browser engine that nobody uses - which is too bad, because if I remember correctly they were not too far behind Chrome in either perf or compatibility for a while.
- bee_rider 9mo agoA large language model, or a business model?
- tylerchilds 9mo agoOne has existed since the 80s, when was the other founded?
- Gud 9mo agoWhat does it matter? And Microsoft was founded in the 70s..
- iAMkenough 9mo agoI think they're implying Microsoft is having a Kodak moment
- jug 9mo agoThey do have some in-house LLM's (Phi) but they seem to either have issues with, or not thinking it's worth it, to develop large flagship ones.