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Explains why Windows updates have been more broken than usual lately. But I guess having my computer randomly stop working because a billion dollar corporation

by bakugo 9mo ago

Explains why Windows updates have been more broken than usual lately. But I guess having my computer randomly stop working because a billion dollar corporation needs to save money by using a shitty text generation algorithm to write code instead of hiring competent programmers is just the new normal now.

johnebgd 9mo ago
I switched to Ubuntu last week for my desktop. First time in my 25+ year career I’ve felt like Microsoft was wasting my time more than administering a Linux desktop would take. The slop effect is real.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 9mo ago
  Linux kernels will all eventually be permeated with AI-gen code as well. It will just take longer to see and feel the effects.
  - bflesch 9mo ago
    Your argument is in bad faith because you are using false equivalence bias.
    - Eddy_Viscosity2 9mo ago
      I wasn't making an argument. It was a prediction that all major software, (including the major linux distros) will eventually be majority (>50%) AI generated. Software that is 100% human generated will be like getting a hand knitted sweater at a farmers market. Available, but expensive and only produced at very small scale.
      - vv_ 9mo ago
        On what reasoning do you make this prediction? Just because corporations are mandating their employees to use AI right now does not mean it will continue.
        Eddy_Viscosity2 9mo ago
        Any new software developers entering the field from this point on will have to know how to use and be expected to use AI code-gen tools to get employment. Moving forward, eventually all developers use these tools routinely. There will be a point in the future where there is no one left working that has ever coded anything complex thing from scratch without AI tools. Therefore, all* code will have AI code-gen as all* developers will be using them. * all mean 'nearly all' as of course there will be exceptions.
        bigfishrunning 9mo ago
        So eventually, doesn't the KPI move from "more code" to "better code"? The pendulum will have to swing the other way eventually; seems like microsoft is just accelerating that process
        Eddy_Viscosity2 9mo ago
        > doesn't the KPI move from "more code" to "better code"? I would love for this to be true. But another scenario that could play out is that this process accelerates software bloat that was already happening with human coded software. Notepad will be a 300GB executable in 2035.
        bigfishrunning 9mo ago
        > Notepad will be a 300GB executable in 2035. And this will cause what I'm talking about -- When nobody can afford memory because it's all going into the ocean-boiling datacenters, all of a sudden someone selling a program that fits into RAM will have a very attractive product
        DowsingSpoon 9mo ago
        This is why, of course, nearly all open source projects are written in Java.
        vv_ 9mo ago
  - calgoo 9mo ago
    I'm sure there are a bunch of "Rust is better" people spending all their tokens on rewriting the Linux kernel as we speak.
- pjmlp 9mo ago
  You might want to change to Debian or some other distro more radical. https://ubuntu.com/ai https://ubuntu.com/ai
  - eklavya 9mo ago
    I am not getting what that linked url is supposed to mean. It is a very decent business page where ubuntu is selling consulting for "your" projects and telling why ubuntu is great for developing AI systems.
    - pjmlp 9mo ago
      And eventually on Ubuntu itself, who knows.
- unlimit 9mo ago
  You won't regret. I have been using debian for last 25 years on and off and for last 8 years non stop. I have no complains.
  - vv_ 9mo ago
    Unfortunately it'll take time for certain companies to release their applications on Linux distro's. So right now I manage with WSL2 + Win 11.
    - afewmoredecades 9mo ago
      [dead]
- newsoftheday 9mo ago
  I've used Kubuntu for several years, wife too now which is an official, supported flavor of Ubuntu using KDE desktop instead of Gnome. It gives a more Windows like or CDE (Common Desktop Environment - from UNIX systems) feel than Gnome which gives a more Mac feel.
  - endemic 9mo ago
    Also a pretty heavy Kubuntu user. After spending my formative years tweaking Linux installs, this distro "just works" for me.
wcoenen 9mo ago
Do you have "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" enabled? This automatically installs preview releases, so you may unwittingly be doing QA for Microsoft.

by bakugo 9mo ago

johnebgd 9mo ago

I switched to Ubuntu last week for my desktop. First time in my 25+ year career I’ve felt like Microsoft was wasting my time more than administering a Linux desktop would take. The slop effect is real.

Eddy_Viscosity2 9mo ago
Linux kernels will all eventually be permeated with AI-gen code as well. It will just take longer to see and feel the effects.
- bflesch 9mo ago
  Your argument is in bad faith because you are using false equivalence bias.
  - Eddy_Viscosity2 9mo ago
    I wasn't making an argument. It was a prediction that all major software, (including the major linux distros) will eventually be majority (>50%) AI generated. Software that is 100% human generated will be like getting a hand knitted sweater at a farmers market. Available, but expensive and only produced at very small scale.
    - vv_ 9mo ago
      On what reasoning do you make this prediction? Just because corporations are mandating their employees to use AI right now does not mean it will continue.
      - Eddy_Viscosity2 9mo ago
        Any new software developers entering the field from this point on will have to know how to use and be expected to use AI code-gen tools to get employment. Moving forward, eventually all developers use these tools routinely. There will be a point in the future where there is no one left working that has ever coded anything complex thing from scratch without AI tools. Therefore, all* code will have AI code-gen as all* developers will be using them. * all mean 'nearly all' as of course there will be exceptions.
        bigfishrunning 9mo ago
        So eventually, doesn't the KPI move from "more code" to "better code"? The pendulum will have to swing the other way eventually; seems like microsoft is just accelerating that process
        Eddy_Viscosity2 9mo ago
        > doesn't the KPI move from "more code" to "better code"? I would love for this to be true. But another scenario that could play out is that this process accelerates software bloat that was already happening with human coded software. Notepad will be a 300GB executable in 2035.
        bigfishrunning 9mo ago
        > Notepad will be a 300GB executable in 2035. And this will cause what I'm talking about -- When nobody can afford memory because it's all going into the ocean-boiling datacenters, all of a sudden someone selling a program that fits into RAM will have a very attractive product
        DowsingSpoon 9mo ago
        This is why, of course, nearly all open source projects are written in Java.
        vv_ 9mo ago
- calgoo 9mo ago
  I'm sure there are a bunch of "Rust is better" people spending all their tokens on rewriting the Linux kernel as we speak.
pjmlp 9mo ago
You might want to change to Debian or some other distro more radical. https://ubuntu.com/ai https://ubuntu.com/ai
- eklavya 9mo ago
  I am not getting what that linked url is supposed to mean. It is a very decent business page where ubuntu is selling consulting for "your" projects and telling why ubuntu is great for developing AI systems.
  - pjmlp 9mo ago
    And eventually on Ubuntu itself, who knows.
unlimit 9mo ago
You won't regret. I have been using debian for last 25 years on and off and for last 8 years non stop. I have no complains.
- vv_ 9mo ago
  Unfortunately it'll take time for certain companies to release their applications on Linux distro's. So right now I manage with WSL2 + Win 11.
  - afewmoredecades 9mo ago
    [dead]
newsoftheday 9mo ago
I've used Kubuntu for several years, wife too now which is an official, supported flavor of Ubuntu using KDE desktop instead of Gnome. It gives a more Windows like or CDE (Common Desktop Environment - from UNIX systems) feel than Gnome which gives a more Mac feel.
- endemic 9mo ago
  Also a pretty heavy Kubuntu user. After spending my formative years tweaking Linux installs, this distro "just works" for me.

wcoenen 9mo ago

Do you have "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" enabled? This automatically installs preview releases, so you may unwittingly be doing QA for Microsoft.