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I didn't invest and generally avoid anything other than s&p500, ftse 100 and just letting money compound over time (because if I wanted to really gamble I would

I didn't invest and generally avoid anything other than s&p500, ftse 100 and just letting money compound over time (because if I wanted to really gamble I would go Las Vegas) but I wonder how many 'ordinary' people are silently getting burned out there by how much hype there is now online.

gadflyinyoureye 9mo ago
I think it will still go up. Banking regulations changed, US dollar dropping. Industrial use going through the roof. This is a mid term investment. Probably see $70 and a slow build to $200 a once in two years.
- Joel_Mckay 9mo ago
  You are probably right, but for the wrong reasons =3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_bounce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_bounce
Joel_Mckay 9mo ago
The stock market is not a place most amateurs make money. In some cases Vegas would give you better odds. lol =3
- qnleigh 9mo ago
  Unless you are talking about owning a casino, I can't think of any interpretation of what you are saying that is true. Index funds have a long history of steady growth. Las Vegas businesses make their profits off of the reliable losses of their customers.
  - Joel_Mckay 9mo ago
    What people say they do, and what they actually do... are very different events. =3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
    - pinkmuffinere 9mo ago
      I don't like your non-genuine engagement with this conversation. You've made outrageous claims, backed up with no data, and then seemingly pre-emptively linked to a page about trolling by asking for evidence. Well I'll ask you for evidence anyways lol. And I'll also give some that points against your outrageous claims: Retail investment in the stock market is at all time highs [1], and the percentage of investment in passive indices is also at an all time high [2]. It is _possible_ that retail investors are perversely fighting the trends and increasing their investments primarily by engaging in day-trade-esque behavior, but that would surprise me. Especially given that retirement accounts strongly encourage funds. I'd love to see some data pointing definitively either way though. [1] https://www.jpmorganchase.com/institute/all-topics/financial-health-wealth-creation/a-decade-in-the-market-how-retail-investing-behavior-has-shifted-since-2015 https://www.jpmorganchase.com/institute/all-topics/financial... [2] https://www.morningstar.com/funds/8-charts-us-fund-flows-2025-highest-net-inflows-since-2021#:~:text=Download%20CSV.-,Passive%20Continues%20to%20Separate%20From%20Active,-Since%20passive%20funds https://www.morningstar.com/funds/8-charts-us-fund-flows-202...
      - Joel_Mckay 9mo ago
        >You've made outrageous claims, backed up with no data In general, over the long term most amateurs do better investing in real-estate rather than the stock market. This is a well proven fact true for over a century, and making it some sort of personal argument is bizarre behavior. You can spend 30 seconds looking it up, or continue to shovel your BS. =3
gizajob 9mo ago
Huge numbers based on the forum posts on my investment app. Literally Christmas for companies offering long leverage and CFD products. A few “survivorship bias” type people managed to put in a short at the $120 top of silver and accidentally made a killing and this weekend will be believing they are prophetic genii.

gadflyinyoureye 9mo ago

I think it will still go up. Banking regulations changed, US dollar dropping. Industrial use going through the roof. This is a mid term investment. Probably see $70 and a slow build to $200 a once in two years.

Joel_Mckay 9mo ago
You are probably right, but for the wrong reasons =3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_bounce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_bounce

Joel_Mckay 9mo ago

The stock market is not a place most amateurs make money. In some cases Vegas would give you better odds. lol =3

qnleigh 9mo ago
Unless you are talking about owning a casino, I can't think of any interpretation of what you are saying that is true. Index funds have a long history of steady growth. Las Vegas businesses make their profits off of the reliable losses of their customers.
- Joel_Mckay 9mo ago
  What people say they do, and what they actually do... are very different events. =3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
  - pinkmuffinere 9mo ago
    I don't like your non-genuine engagement with this conversation. You've made outrageous claims, backed up with no data, and then seemingly pre-emptively linked to a page about trolling by asking for evidence. Well I'll ask you for evidence anyways lol. And I'll also give some that points against your outrageous claims: Retail investment in the stock market is at all time highs [1], and the percentage of investment in passive indices is also at an all time high [2]. It is _possible_ that retail investors are perversely fighting the trends and increasing their investments primarily by engaging in day-trade-esque behavior, but that would surprise me. Especially given that retirement accounts strongly encourage funds. I'd love to see some data pointing definitively either way though. [1] https://www.jpmorganchase.com/institute/all-topics/financial-health-wealth-creation/a-decade-in-the-market-how-retail-investing-behavior-has-shifted-since-2015 https://www.jpmorganchase.com/institute/all-topics/financial... [2] https://www.morningstar.com/funds/8-charts-us-fund-flows-2025-highest-net-inflows-since-2021#:~:text=Download%20CSV.-,Passive%20Continues%20to%20Separate%20From%20Active,-Since%20passive%20funds https://www.morningstar.com/funds/8-charts-us-fund-flows-202...
    - Joel_Mckay 9mo ago
      >You've made outrageous claims, backed up with no data In general, over the long term most amateurs do better investing in real-estate rather than the stock market. This is a well proven fact true for over a century, and making it some sort of personal argument is bizarre behavior. You can spend 30 seconds looking it up, or continue to shovel your BS. =3

gizajob 9mo ago

Huge numbers based on the forum posts on my investment app. Literally Christmas for companies offering long leverage and CFD products. A few “survivorship bias” type people managed to put in a short at the $120 top of silver and accidentally made a killing and this weekend will be believing they are prophetic genii.