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> We aren't going to remove the security state What security state? They aren't doing this for anyone's safety. This is the surveillance and parallel constru
by themafia 9mo ago
> We aren't going to remove the security state
What security state? They aren't doing this for anyone's safety. This is the surveillance and parallel construction state.
> What needs to happen is accountability.
No agency can have this power and remain accountable. Warrants are not an effective tool for managing this. Courts cannot effectively perform oversight after the fact.
> The only way to stop the rampant abuse is to treat data like fire.
You've missed the obvious. You should really go the other direction. Our devices should generate _noise_. Huge crazy amounts of noise. Extraneous data to a level that pollutes the system beyond any utility. They accept all this data without filtering. They should suffer for that choice.
- fooqux 9mo ago> Our devices should generate _noise_. Huge crazy amounts of noise. Extraneous data to a level that pollutes the system beyond any utility. They accept all this data without filtering. They should suffer for that choice. I like the idea on principle, but I'll like it far less when I'm getting charged with computer fraud or some other over-reaching bullshit law.
- ruszki 9mo ago> They aren't doing this for anyone's safety. Strictly speaking, this is not completely true. When you call an emergency number, it’s very good that they can see exactly where you are. That was how this was sold 15+ years ago. But of course, that’s basically the only use case when this should be available.
- cpncrunch 9mo agoShould it not be available with a valid court order as well?
- p-e-w 9mo agoWhy? What is the rationale? Unless of course you subscribe to the idea that anything goes as long as a court decrees it, in which case there’s nothing to debate really.
- cpncrunch 9mo agoIm a little confused. Do you not believe there should be courts at all?
- p-e-w 9mo agoWhat I don’t believe is that courts should have the power to force anything to happen just by signing a piece of paper.
- Ms-J 9mo agoThank you for sharing this fact. Warrants can be had for almost any situation with creative phrasing from who is asking for it. Warrants are so easy to obtain and so abused it is required that we all do something differently.
- Alive-in-2025 9mo agoThey aren't that hard to get, yet Trump's warriors ice never seem to have warrants signed by a judge. Going back to being able to ignore fake warrants not signed by a judge without them killing you would be a big step forward.
- cpncrunch 9mo agoSo how should it work?
- Forgeties79 9mo agoSlavery also took advantage of valid court orders. “Because it’s the law” is not enough. Our rights should always be the biased stance.
- Alive-in-2025 9mo agoDoubly so when the "law" is oligarchs and Ice.
- krick 9mo agoYet when I call emergency I must provide my location verbally, and then am usually contacted for a follow-up, because the guys cannot find the place. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that this location technology works perfectly well: just not for the "only use case when this should be available".
- mycall 9mo agoIt is also useful for emergency services to double check you know the situation at hand and to cooperate with verification SOPs.
- VerifiedReports 9mo agoExcept apparently they can't. I'm in L.A., a city where resources presumably represent what's available in modern cities, and the first thing I've been asked in any 911 call is "what's your location?" This is particularly offensive considering that everyone was forced to replace his phone in the early 2000s to comply with "E-911." Verizon refused to let me activate a StarTAC I bought to replace my original, months before this mandate actually took effect. Looking back on it, it was a perfect scam: Congress got paid off to throw a huge bone to everyone except the consumers. We were all forced to buy new phones, and for millions of people that meant renewing service contracts. Telcos win. Phone manufacturers win. Consumers lose.
- heraldgeezer 9mo agoYou people are so cynical. Its simply made for 911 calls. In the 2G era there was no compute space to just put in extra evil shit for fun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_resource_location_services_protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_resource_location_servic...
- SturgeonsLaw 9mo agoMade for, and used for, are two different things. The article gives an example of Israel slurping down that data constantly to track everyone, and you can bet they aren't the only ones doing that.
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- globalnode 9mo agodont have to be a leftie to hate genocide but glad your loving it... youll have plenty to love about the world going forward ;)
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- whatshisface 9mo agoI wish I could maintain a similar level of recent news avoidance.
- heraldgeezer 9mo agooh I know about oct 7 and the war against Hamas that Israel won. Stay mad.
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