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You are downvoted, but you are totally right. Humans are not meant to cry daily over stuff that happens half a world away, or be exposed to a thousand new stran

You are downvoted, but you are totally right. Humans are not meant to cry daily over stuff that happens half a world away, or be exposed to a thousand new strangers every day. But thanks to internet, your mom and aunt can have an endless fuel to their various anxieties and your daughter can have eating disorders comparing herself to celebrities. Bring a pre-internet pre-24/7 TV person to present day and they’ll spot the problem straight away. Amusing Ourselves To Death was written in reaction to the societal changes brought by the TV. What about the impact of Internet news, and Facebook, and Tiktok?

logicchains 8mo ago
>You are downvoted, but you are totally right. Humans are not meant to cry daily over stuff that happens half a world away You mean humans are not meant to learn about the atrocities their government is funding half a world away.
- SkipperCat 8mo ago
  Social media is not designed to keep you informed. Its designed to keep you engaged because that helps them sell ads. And the best way to keep you engaged is to keep you enraged. I've seen in the US how social media has been used push false narratives, hate and other falsehoods. Its toxic. If you really want to stay informed, there are plenty of newspapers, NGOs and other organizations out there reporting the truth.
  - sunaookami 8mo ago
    >If you really want to stay informed, there are plenty of newspapers, NGOs and other organizations out there reporting the truth. And they don't report on that kind of stuff because they either support it themselves or are indirectly funded by the government.
  - logicchains 8mo ago
    >I've seen in the US how social media has been used push false narratives, hate and other falsehoods. Its toxic. And for decades before that mainstream media was used to push false narratives with absolutely no alternatives. Or have you forgotten about the Iraq War?
- Aerbil313 8mo ago
  No, governments are not meant to be able to fund atrocities half a world away. Just as your body is not meant to sit at a chair and your eyes are not meant to look at a distance of 50cm for 8 hours a day. The entire current human existence right now is at odds with human biology and psychology. One has to swim against the current just to be physically, mentally and spiritually healthy.
  - bethekidyouwant 8mo ago
    Were our ancestors physically mentally and spiritually healthy? When exactly was this?
- wiseowise 8mo ago
  It’s what news made by reputable sources is for.
  - ebbi 8mo ago
    It's the 'reputable' news sources that have often pushed misinformation and half-truths, often in subtle ways. Just do a review of BBC headlines for it's coverage on the Israel-Palestine conflict. Many headlines where Israel was the aggressor were passive, never naming Israel as the aggressor, but whenever it was aggression from the Palestinian side, it was highlighted. Even the death toll in Gaza, where for the last few years the headlines, when reorting on the death toll, often stated 'unconfirmed', or 'Hamas-provided', to cause doubt in the numbers, when historically, the numbers provided by Hamas were relatively accurate, and just the other day the IDF admits that the ~70k death toll is realistic.
wraptile 8mo ago
> Humans are not meant to not meant to? by whom? We live in houses, with artificial light, heating and air conditioning, having sex without risk of pregnancy or "god-forbid" sex with people who are not capable of being pregnant. So, what exactly are we not meant to do? There's a certain natural human nature but it's expressed through abtract virtue like justice, knowledge, safety, connection - this is the only acceptable and reasonable expression of what humans are "meant to" do. This makes me angry because fundamentally this is an attack on average person's intelligence and capabilities. We are not beasts that need to be hearded by some illuminated masters who deem what is and what isn't human nature.
- Aeolun 8mo ago
  I don’t think you need to be an illuminated master to realize that the things that generally make humans unhappier are not things we are meant to do.
  - wraptile 8mo ago
    > that the things that generally make humans unhappier are not things we are meant to do citation needed. Also there are plenty of things that make humans "generally unhappy" but we all agree are good like exercise or cleaning up your home. Even if happiness was a valid metric for human condition then blanket banning "social media for <15" - whatever that means - is not a reasonable approach in any way. The only sound argument here is purely utilitarian "we suck at governing so let's do something easy and maybe it'll work". It has nothing to do with human nature other than that we naturally suck at organizing policy.

logicchains 8mo ago

>You are downvoted, but you are totally right. Humans are not meant to cry daily over stuff that happens half a world away You mean humans are not meant to learn about the atrocities their government is funding half a world away.

SkipperCat 8mo ago
Social media is not designed to keep you informed. Its designed to keep you engaged because that helps them sell ads. And the best way to keep you engaged is to keep you enraged. I've seen in the US how social media has been used push false narratives, hate and other falsehoods. Its toxic. If you really want to stay informed, there are plenty of newspapers, NGOs and other organizations out there reporting the truth.
- sunaookami 8mo ago
  >If you really want to stay informed, there are plenty of newspapers, NGOs and other organizations out there reporting the truth. And they don't report on that kind of stuff because they either support it themselves or are indirectly funded by the government.
- logicchains 8mo ago
  >I've seen in the US how social media has been used push false narratives, hate and other falsehoods. Its toxic. And for decades before that mainstream media was used to push false narratives with absolutely no alternatives. Or have you forgotten about the Iraq War?
Aerbil313 8mo ago
No, governments are not meant to be able to fund atrocities half a world away. Just as your body is not meant to sit at a chair and your eyes are not meant to look at a distance of 50cm for 8 hours a day. The entire current human existence right now is at odds with human biology and psychology. One has to swim against the current just to be physically, mentally and spiritually healthy.
- bethekidyouwant 8mo ago
  Were our ancestors physically mentally and spiritually healthy? When exactly was this?
wiseowise 8mo ago
It’s what news made by reputable sources is for.
- ebbi 8mo ago
  It's the 'reputable' news sources that have often pushed misinformation and half-truths, often in subtle ways. Just do a review of BBC headlines for it's coverage on the Israel-Palestine conflict. Many headlines where Israel was the aggressor were passive, never naming Israel as the aggressor, but whenever it was aggression from the Palestinian side, it was highlighted. Even the death toll in Gaza, where for the last few years the headlines, when reorting on the death toll, often stated 'unconfirmed', or 'Hamas-provided', to cause doubt in the numbers, when historically, the numbers provided by Hamas were relatively accurate, and just the other day the IDF admits that the ~70k death toll is realistic.

wraptile 8mo ago

> Humans are not meant to not meant to? by whom? We live in houses, with artificial light, heating and air conditioning, having sex without risk of pregnancy or "god-forbid" sex with people who are not capable of being pregnant. So, what exactly are we not meant to do? There's a certain natural human nature but it's expressed through abtract virtue like justice, knowledge, safety, connection - this is the only acceptable and reasonable expression of what humans are "meant to" do. This makes me angry because fundamentally this is an attack on average person's intelligence and capabilities. We are not beasts that need to be hearded by some illuminated masters who deem what is and what isn't human nature.

Aeolun 8mo ago
I don’t think you need to be an illuminated master to realize that the things that generally make humans unhappier are not things we are meant to do.
- wraptile 8mo ago
  > that the things that generally make humans unhappier are not things we are meant to do citation needed. Also there are plenty of things that make humans "generally unhappy" but we all agree are good like exercise or cleaning up your home. Even if happiness was a valid metric for human condition then blanket banning "social media for <15" - whatever that means - is not a reasonable approach in any way. The only sound argument here is purely utilitarian "we suck at governing so let's do something easy and maybe it'll work". It has nothing to do with human nature other than that we naturally suck at organizing policy.