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Ask HN: Do you still use physical calculators?
I’ve noticed that most physical scientific and graphing calculators are easily outdone in terms of performance, capability and ease of use by the likes of Desmos and the default calculators on OS’es like the iOS, Android, and Windows.
It kind of makes me wonder whether people still use physical calculators from Texas Instruments, Casio, etc
If you do, I’d love to know why and how it is different/better for you than the ones I’ve mentioned and others like them and vice verse.
Cheers!
- account42 8mo agoA REPL of your favorite scripting language is the best calculator there is IMO.
- moribvndvs 8mo agoI still use my dad’s old HP 15C. Form factor is good, aesthetically it’s very appealing, it feels efficient to use, I like the tactile feel of the buttons, and I like thinking of my dad when I use it.
- jjav 8mo agoAbsolutely! On my desk I have an HP-28S and use it nearly every day. In the office I have a newer HP, which isn't quite as nice to use as the 28S but still quite good. The ergonomics of these are so far superior to using software apps that there is no comparison.
- nhhvhy 8mo agoYes! I’ve held onto my TI84 from high school and find myself reaching for it far more than I ever expected.
- baubino 8mo agoMy 30-year-old TI-83 from college is still chugging along. My kid uses it for school. Math homework is all pencil and paper so having a physical calculator is more convenient. It’s portable and dedicated to a single use that it does very well.
- altairprime 8mo agoYep. College requires a TI-83 and I use a DM-16L for accounting homework.
- 7402 8mo agoYes. HP-11C. Who cares about the speed of the calculating device when I'm just adding or multiplying a few numbers? Physical buttons are easier to use than mousing on a screen. And it's highly portable.
- subinalex 8mo agoI use it while learning mathacademy
- xqli 8mo agono, python is all my need^_^
- HardwareLust 8mo agoI do. I struggle with basic math (always have) so I keep a simple calculator right next to my keyboard because it's instantly available as compared to the one in my phone or on the computer.
- swissfunicular 8mo agoI have Casio FX-991MS on my desk
- greey2026 8mo ago[dead]
- estimator7292 8mo agoEvery programmer and engineer I work with has a calculator at their desk. It's like having a second monitor, just for math, and you can take it with you. Modern technology is incredible.
- tsoukase 8mo agoI saved a scientific calculator in 1994 just in case. I never used it, as a PC was always on since then. Today two cheap calculators are available to my children mostly as an example of "productive technology", in contrary to modern devices. This falls under a general effort to expose them to productive paradigms of 80's way of life.
- cornhole 8mo agoI’m too used to using a ti-83+
- chistev 8mo agoHaven't used my Casio calculator to solve real stuff in a few years, and it still works whenever I check it out at random moments to know if it still works. Great battery, that.
- techcode 8mo agoTL;DR: school/tests/exams don't allow phones. Here in NL - Casio FX-82NL is allowed during test/exams for middle/high school, and actually for Radio Amateur/HAM licence exam - they even hand you one of their FX-82NLs. Other more advanced (graphing, with memory/Python/etc) are also allowed in some places, but they need to be set to exam mode that disables memory/python/etc.
- numeri 8mo agoNo, Python or units[1] is always a better choice if I'm near a computer (and I nearly always am these days, unfortunately, I suppose). I do have three wonderful slide rules, though. [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/units/ https://www.gnu.org/software/units/
- lucyjojo 8mo agowish i still had my hp48g, the emulator apps are the most used apps on my phone/ipad, they re glorified calculators*ipod by now with worse buttons.
- dlcarrier 8mo agoI still have my HP graphing calculator, but I haven't used it in years. I just use the emulator on my phone. It's crazy that in decades of having much better hardware, including an entire decade of phones in the exact same form factor we use today, we haven't come up with better software that would make a calculator emulator irrelevant.
- 1718627440 8mo ago> I’ve noticed that most physical scientific and graphing calculators are easily outdone in terms of performance, capability and ease of use by the likes of Desmos and the default calculators on OS’es like the iOS, Android, and Windows. Citation needed. They are pretty clunky, unless you have a numpad typing on them takes way longer. Graphing and fast access to mathematical functions is way worse. I mean I do substituted my calculator with the computer, but the replacement is Python and GeoGebra, not the built in calculator. And the reason is mostly convenience of not replacing batteries. I do use the standalone calculator while the batteries are full.
- runjake 8mo agoYes, I use one all the time. I have a small collection of them, depending on the task. As for why I use them? - They are tactile. - They are forgiving, pushing a button doesn't accidentally swipe to some random app or screen or slide down notifications. - The physical calculator doesn't interrupt my work with a notification or popup. I realize it makes me a boomer, but using modern smartphone interfaces, especially post-home button iOS, feels like interacting with a UI sitting on top of a banana peel. Buttons now require more precise and well-timed touches to activate their actions (eg: the buttons on the lock screen). I frequently find myself accidentally swiping between apps or navigating to new views. I really wish I could go back to the old way of having a singular app be the focus, and having a home button or something I can press to switch between app contexts, without all the easily triggered and hidden gestures.
- voidUpdate 8mo agoI still use my casio fx-83gtx from time to time, if I'm doing something especially complicated. Having a physical devices feels nicer than using windows calculator or my phone. I use desmos for things where graphs would give more insight, and wolfram alpha where I need more than the specific answer, and some information around it might be useful
- drbig 8mo agoYes. In fact I even made a video about them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdbfPa1L6JQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdbfPa1L6JQ (shameless self-plug, yes).
- akst 8mo agoYeah, there’s something convenient about a dedicated device when you’re using a notebook and pen and your only other screen is your phone. It’s also nice not having to dedicate screen space to a calculator too. If I have something more complicated with more moving pieces and data points I will just write a python script. I like the CASIO fx-CG50, is good but there are more feature rich calculators out there, it’s just less finicky than my more powerful TI-nspire CX II one. I also just kind of dig the aesthetic of the UI reminds me of my old Nintendo DS. My TI one is good for verifying algebraic substitutions as it’s a proper CAS one.
- wosined 8mo agoWhen I have a calculator near me, then I do prefer to use it rather than having to open the terminal, run python, import libraries etc. It is faster for simple computation.
- mikewarot 8mo agoI still have a cheap Casio I use from time to time. Using it to calculate logarithms using only multiplication to the 10th power and the occasional divide by 10 was a calming thing to do over lunch in the gear shop without Internet access. Start with X. If 10 or more add 1 to the log10 for each decimal If smaller than 1, subtract 1 each time you multiply by 10.writw that down plus a decimal point Now the fun part, the fraction of the logarithm Hit multiply 9 times then equal, to get the 10th power on the Casio Each time you divide by 10 to get it back into range between 1 and 10, add 1 to the fraction Repeat until you've got enough digits PS: it also works for binary or any other integer base.
- jmclnx 8mo agoI would, but one of the main keys stopped working. It is a very old solar scientific calculator and large for a calculator. If I could open up the case without cracking it I would attempt a repair, but I know I would end up breaking it :( Now, I mainly use bc(1).
- smithtech 8mo agoI use TI-36x on my desk however recently I’ve been using Julia, Pluto and a combination of Handcalcs.jl and Unitful.jl for engineering calculation with a lot of success. Very ergonomic for that type of work.
- david_wpg 8mo agoI like a physical calculator if I'm doing my taxes, monthly budget, or if I'm doing a lot of calculations. If I'm quickly adding something up, I use Wolfram Alpha or my phone.
- yial 8mo agoI have an HP-12C I keep In my laptop bag, and I also have a construction calculator I use on occasion. The most valuable is usually the printing calculator I use for totaling sums on occasion.
- jllyhill 8mo agoHaven't had a need for a hardware calculator since the first year in the university, even though I got to the PhD in physics. The calculations are either too hard to do by hand (at work) or too trivial and few to require anything more complex than a basic Android or Windows calculator.
- tsm 8mo agoI own a handful of TI calculators (TI-{80, 83, 83+, 86, 89T, NSpire CAS}, possibly a few others) but actually use a TI-89 Titanium emulator on my Android phone. I no longer do anything remotely interesting with it, but I prefer it to the stock calculator since I know how it does order of operations, it shows fractions, it's easy to get old return values, etc. Don't tell me if the stock calculator now does all that; the TI-89 ergonomics are burned into my brain. (I was in an advanced math class which got me using a TI-80 at the age of 9)
- ceving 8mo agoNo. Droid48 has replaced it.
- aleph_minus_one 8mo ago> I’ve noticed that most physical scientific and graphing calculators are easily outdone in terms of performance, capability and ease of use by the likes of Desmos and the default calculators on OS’es like the iOS, Android, and Windows. This does not fit my experience. Physical calculators still excel with respect to handiness, and are in my experience typically more convenient to use than these bad default calculators. The tool that rather made me mostly abandon physical calculators (except if one is forced to use one, like for some kinds of exams) is rather Wolfram Mathematica. This program is so much more capable (a complete different league) than what every physical calculator that I am aware of has to offer that convenience and handiness of a physical calculator does not matter anymore for the comparison: Wolfram Mathematica is compared to a physical calculator like what a physical calculator is compared to doing all comparisons by hand.
- tcaxle 8mo agoMy physical calculator has something that no soft-calculator will ever have: tactile buttons and years' of muscle memory. Sure, I could put in the time to learn a soft calculator but the clunkiness of using the UI of something like Desmos (especially on a touch-screen) vs the dedicated physical buttons on my Casio make it very unappealing. It's a similar argument to the touch-screen vs. physical buttons debate in car dashboard design (but hopefully with fewer fatalities): A button I can feel (and that never gets moved around the interface overnight due to some cargo-culting UX dev) wins every time.
- focusedone 8mo agoYes! I keep a basic Casio MS-80s handy for sanity checks and a 30-year-old CFX-9850GB Plus for when things get serious.
- migp 8mo agoYes!
- fortranfiend 8mo agoElectrical engineer, ti89 in the desk. Also how else am I going to maintain my brick breaker dominion.
- readingnews 8mo agoI have an old HP 15C RPN scientific calculator. - I know where the buttons are without looking. - It has functions my Android calculator does not have (directly or that I know of). - It has a strange satisfying tactile feedback. - It never interrupts me. Ever. - It never distracts me. Ever. I reach for it frequently.
- kqr 8mo agoI smilarly use the HP 12c. There is nothing more convenient for solving simple compound interest/discounting problems.
- commakozzi 8mo agoIMHO the HP 15C RPN is the best calculator ever made. I still have the original with the slip case and manual. However, more often these days i just use my phone's calculator without RPN (i don't need to do a lot of complicated math for mechanical engineering -- we use tables for most stuff). I reached a point/decision several years ago to protect my HP 15C for posterity.
- silvestrov 8mo agoI've never owner any other piece of technology with buttons this good. It is really a lost art.
- rented_mule 8mo agoI can't think of another electronic device that has survived and remained useful for half the 43 years my 15C has - through two years of high school, a math degree, and an entire software engineering career. When I calculate something any other way, it involves thinking about what my thumbs automatically do on my 15C and translating that. When I'm away from it, there's a wonderful emulation of the 15C (and 16C) at https://jrpn.jovial.com https://jrpn.jovial.com. The numeric algorithms behave identically as far as I can tell, and it even includes the back panel (3-dot menu near the logo, then "Help"). The visuals make me feel right at home. If only they could reproduce the tactile experience.
- pseudohadamard 8mo agoI have some generic Sharp calculator with an apparently-immortal battery and a nice multiline display. It has all sorts of fancy functions that I never use. Apart from that, everything the OP said.
- andersa 8mo agoHaven't used one since the day I finished school. I still have it though. It's like an artifact from another time...
- LeoPanthera 8mo agoI think you accidentally a verb. But, yes. Casio fx-991EX. It's designed for schools, I think, but at the time it was the most advanced one they made that wasn't a graphing calculator, since I figured that if I ever wanted to draw a graph I'd just fire up "Grapher", which is still bundled with every Mac. In about a decade I think I've done that once. The Casio is great. Looks like it's discontinued now? I guess the fx-9910CW is the replacement. They made the buttons circular. Weird.
- idontwantthis 8mo agoI have never known about Grapher in all my years of Mac use. Thank you!
- moepstar 8mo ago> I think you accidentally a verb. Totally reminded me of the old meme "i accidentally a coca cola bottle, is that bad?" :D To be more on topic: yup, Casio fx-85ES - still going strong, needs basically no maintenance at all and having tactile buttons you can mash while sitting over a piece of paper just has no comparison.
- speedylight 8mo agolol I did accidentally a verb yes, quite a frequent occurrence with me!
- mbirth 8mo agoThere’s a 991CW 2nd edition out even. Because they’ve realised they forgot to make the different “apps” accessible by pressing a number button. In the original 991CW, you always have to use the arrow buttons to select the feature you want to use.
- KellyCriterion 8mo agoDoes Windows Calc.exe count as well? :-))
- agumonkey 8mo agoMines are stored, but I use the hp48 emulator regularly.
- comrade1234 8mo agoThere's a farm here in Zurich where we buy a lot of our groceries. The store is unmanned. You use their calculator (or your cellphone calculator) to add up what you're buying then use your phone to scan a QR code and pay.
- mastermedo 8mo ago+1, every time we hike up a mountain and there's a help-yourself-fridge/shelf, we take 5-10 items and it's too much to add up in ones head. I use the phone calculator and pay by QR code.
- speedylight 8mo agoThat’s so cool, I wish something like this existed in the states. That’s the kind of trust local communities thrive in <3
- sevensor 8mo agoI know a few farmstands here that operate on the honor system. Put $5 in the box, take your bag of apples. You have to go a bit out of your way, but they do exist in the States.
- smogcutter 8mo agoLots of farm stands in NY’s North Country operate like this. With Zelle, etc, there’s no box of cash sitting out and you don’t need to worry about making change.
- alamortsubite 8mo agoThese exist all over in the U.S. There are easily hundreds in my area, though I only frequent a dozen or so.
- rippeltippel 8mo agoMy kids often use their hands, I sometimes use paper and pencil
- intoXbox 8mo agoI still use a high school calculator for doing pen and paper maths. Stuff like figuring out when functions change sign. I find it less distracting than a code editor
- mschuster91 8mo agoI actually own one, a Casio. Simple reason, I'm a ham radio operator and you need one for the exams.
- speedylight 8mo agoFCC license exams I am assuming?
- mschuster91 8mo agoI'm German, but yeah, our version of the license exam. To add to the original question, even for normal operations (e.g. calculating exposure limits), I prefer the "natural" way of entering a formula with fractions over having to manually think about braces like I'd have to do with the macOS calculator.
- tianqi 8mo agoI use a Casio. Not just calculator, but for any tool, I try to avoid using my phone. A phone is a rabbit hole. Once you pick it up, you never know what notification will interrupt your flow. Besides, for these utility apps are difficult to monetize, it's hard to find one that isn't bombarded with ads. Even if luckily you find a perfect one, the creator might lose interest and stop maintaining it next year, forcing you to change your usage habits.
- keyle 8mo agoNope, spotlight search handles basic calculations, python repl the rest of them.
- lagrange77 8mo agoI'm using a HP48G. [0] It's just a joy to use and i also like it a lot design wise. I like that it has a big display for 4 RPN rows, but i admit that that's something software calculators would even be better at. It definitely has a nostalgic/romantic side to it for me. Oh and for every day stuff, i really like to use Spotlight on macOS. It's really convenient: Command+Space, then just type the expression into the search box. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_48_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_48_series
- netsharc 8mo agoDoes the Spotlight calculator still expect you to respect the locale and ignores decimal points as if they don't exist, if you enter them not locale-compliant? 10 years ago I tried to add 640.9 + 2.73 on a German-locale Mac (Germany uses "," as the decimal separator), and it gave me 6682 as the answer...
- lagrange77 8mo agoJust tested it and yes the issue is still there!
- hiAndrewQuinn 8mo agoOh dude, no. The instant I could start using something like https://www.wolframalpha.com/ https://www.wolframalpha.com/ in college over a decade ago, I did. I've never, not once in my life, had any desire to use a physical calculator when I could use a full blown computer instead. I think it's inferior even for pedagogy purposes - I can't screenshot and make Anki cards out of a TI-84.
- speedylight 8mo agoI tried using my WolframAlpha in high school but I had no idea what I was doing and it felt way too complicated, but in college it is a game changer and I still use it to do school work. Totally agree!
- jj_the_bunny 8mo ago"Do you still physical calculators?" Well, no. My calculators don't bounce around so I have no reason to "still" them. /s I have a calculator app that I use 99.9% of the time. I have a physical calculator around here somewhere. I used to use it when I'd have to tabulate physical items or when I'd been doing calculations for a long time. Short bursts on my phone are fine, but over hours is kinda troublesome.
- hecanjog 8mo agoYes, not for its technological features but for its single-purpose-ness. If I'm working on paper, it's nice to pull out rather than a full on computer which also has all of my email on it.
- defrost 8mo agoI still regularly use a TI-35, and / or an old slide rule (I have three), and / or rough mental order of magnitude guesstimates. Otherwise I use domain software for other tasks.
- burnt-resistor 8mo agotl;dr: RPN - ride or die. ;) Sometimes, for vintage reminiscing, a real HP48GX.* It got me through AP Calculus BC, SAT-I, and EE/CS. And doubled as a learning TV remote & TV-B-Gone. I also have a virtual HP48 on my phone, tablets, and computers. In middle school, I had an HP 32SII. I remember being able to hear** either the processor clock or data line(s) of each of the 32 and 48 because one or more components acted as inadvertent audio oscillators that would make noises during computation (and during idle on the 48 because it had to keep redrawing the clock). I've used R, MATLAB, pspice, and Mathematica in the past. I'm a fan of Xcas and Wolfram Alpha now. * I also have a collection of HP 48[GS]X cards, the printer, and the overhead projector adapter. In lieu of the overpriced official HP 48G to computer RS-232 interface cable, one can be easily made from a Sony CD-ROM audio cable. ** With my much younger ear pressed up to it.
- tkgally 8mo agoI don't, but I sometimes see them used here in Japan. Some small-shop operators use them to add up charges and show the total to the customer. I was recently in the office of a small company, and I noticed that the bookkeeper had a calculator next to a pile of paper (receipts?) on her desk. She also had a computer in front of her with a spreadsheet on the screen. When I moved here forty-three years ago, it was common to see abacuses used in similar situations. There's still an abacus school [1] not far from where I live, but it's been a long time since I saw one in use. [1] https://maps.app.goo.gl/nvTg4hfSjTcba47c8 https://maps.app.goo.gl/nvTg4hfSjTcba47c8
- Froedlich 8mo agoBack in the (early 1960s?) Isaac Asimov wrote a book on how to do arithmetic calculations in your head. He pointed out that someone who developed that skill could solve problems faster in their head than by reaching for a slide rule, and they wouldn't necessarily be limited to slide rule approximations. Engineers, accountants, etc. would be more productive by being able to do calculations without having to reach for a slide rule or pencil and paper. [pause for 'slide rule' chuckle] The same applies to "open calculator app and key the figures in," though. I'm not sure that "user interface" was a thing back when he wrote that, but that's what he was talking about.
- tkgally 8mo agoThat’s one reason the abacus hasn’t been completely replaced by calculators: some abacus users become able to calculate very quickly in their heads by visualizing the changing bead positions. In Japanese the skill is called 暗算 anzan, literally “dark calculation.”
- JohnFen 8mo ago> There's still an abacus school (I'm in the US) I remember being taught how to use an abacus when I was in grade school. Not kidding. I'm not so old that they were used anywhere in real life. I believe the whole point was to teach different ways that calculating can be done. A little horizon expansion.
- mapierce2 8mo agoYeah I still use my good ol' TI-83+ occasionally, but I'm a math instructor, so obviously. Most often I'll just use GNU `bc` though. We are getting away from them in the classroom though; just started piloting a program where students use the Desmos app on their phones (requested to be in airplane mode) in class, and we have a department set of air-gapped phones with Desmos pinned for students to use on exams.
- Vedor 8mo agoI have Sharp EL506T and it serves me well. I don't use it very often, mind, but it still happens semi-regularly. The biggest reason for me are physical buttons and the fact I know the layout and capabilities. I'm just faster on physical calculator than on Android app. But to tell the truth, usually I just use Speedcrunch on my computer. Or spreadsheeds. Or Python REPL.
- xattt 8mo agoSharp DAL calculators don’t get enough love. I see HP this and Casio that, but I’ll say that Sharps are a treat to use too.
- Hackbraten 8mo agoI use a SwissMicros DM16L (a HP16C clone) because I like RPN and prefer physical buttons over a touchscreen.
- sethops1 8mo agoI keep my TI-84 at my desk and reach for it maybe once a week. Usually for money reasons though, not so much for work stuff.
- e-khadem 8mo agoYes, I have a Casio fx-9750GIII and I love it. I still haven't found an Android app or website that can do everything that I need (basic functionality), but in general: - I need physical buttons. I often find that on touchscreens I mistype something and I don't notice. - The history feature. Maybe I want to do a serial task or calculation, and I can just replace/correct one of the formulas in the history and it automatically recalculates all of the expressions that came after it. - I have written some micropython code / utilities for the calculator and I use it all the time. - I don't want to context switch to do a quick calculation. On my PC I have to open up a new terminal or a website (I might be offline, so I have to hotspot and then connect the wifi and ...) and interrupt my existing work or I have to frequently switch between a PDF or latex or whatever that I'm working on. - Typing out `sin` or `np.sin` or `sin^-1` on PC is both longer and more error prone. It gets very frustrating very quickly. - The numerical solver is a godsend. Try solving for the roots of an expression like `xe^x = 10` on your PC without internet. Or with an android application. On my calculator it's just a few dedicated button presses. On the PC, I have to use isympy and typeout `nsolve(Eq(x * exp(x), 10), 1)`, and you wouldn't even get a proper graphical display of the expression while you are typing it.
- OutOfHere 8mo agoI still have them, also a slide rule, but no, I don't use them. It is essential to have these for when the grid breaks like it currently has in Mississippi for over a week. I also have multi-decade-storage batteries for them.
- AlphaGeekZulu 8mo ago- I have a HP 16C, mainly for doing number conversions (DEC-HEX-BIN) and binary arithmetic. - I have a HP 15C to take with me all the time (due to its small form factor). - I have a HP 48 GX as main calculator, it is most feature complete and has a clock and alarms. I use it a lot for time calculations. - I have a HP 48 SX, but did not use it much any more after acquiring the 48 GX. - I have a HP 10bII+, which was a gift of my brother in law when he saw my obsession with HP calculators. I do not use it much, as I am not in financial stuff. - I have a HP 41 CV, which is less capable as my 48 GX, but I somehow love it so much, that it resides on my desktop and is used a lot. - I have a Casio Classpad fx-CP400, which I use when I tutor my nephew - it is the best fit for high school requirements (in Germany). - I have a bunch of TI nspire and voyagers and a TI 83 plus, that I never use. - I have a TI-92 plus which I used a lot in the past, but I do not like it anymore. - I have a Casio FX-730P, which I like to write little programs for. Not to mentions my collection of slide rules.
- wolvoleo 8mo agoThe 16C is amazing, I wish I had one as I'm doing a lot of embedded stuff. But I've always found RPN very annoying. Though I guess with binary/hex stuff I would use it mostly for conversion anyway. But they don't make them anymore it seems.
- aaplok 8mo agoNeat collection! Do you have advice on how to use those calculators with modern tooling? For example I remember there were cross-compilers for the hp48 [0], do you use any of that (and how do you transfer data to/from the calculators)? [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20250124204959/https://sourceforge.net/projects/hp48xgcc/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250124204959/https://sourcefor...
- AlphaGeekZulu 8mo agoNo, I do not get that deep. I used to exchange data on the Ti-92 plus and the Classpad. Connecting those devices is either rather outdated (serial port with USB converter) and/or comes with vendor subscriptions, which I am not willing to pay. Maybe, if I had more time ;-)
- synack 8mo agoTI-30Xa still sits on the corner of my desk along with a pen and small notepad. I use it 2-3 times a week. Still faster to reach for it than find the calculator app on my phone or PC for simple tasks.
- srvmshr 8mo agoDuring my bachelors, I was using a Casio FX-991ES+. It was a beautiful calculator compared to the hand-me-down Fx-82 VPAM. And pretty popular with the folks of my age that time. During and after grad school, I was using Mathematica or NumPy/Sympy quite a bit. But it felt like using an overpowered system to do basic assignments. Think of taking a Bugatti Veyron for grocery shopping. I indulged myself with another physical calculator - this time a Casio FX-CG50 with a color display and python support. I use it whenever I do self-paced courses or reading the occasional stats/ML paper.
- SanjayMehta 8mo agoHP-16C Casio fx81 I use only the HP once in a while for old times sake.
- aaronmdjones 8mo agoI still have my Casio FX-83MS which my mother purchased for me when I started secondary school 24 years ago. It still works, it usually sits on my desk, and I use it a couple of times per month.
- tgv 8mo agoI do. It just works, and it feels better than the on-screen versions. The Windows calculator is atrocious. Some of the emulators for iOS are good, but still feel clumsy in comparison to the real thing, especially for more than adding two short numbers. The truth is: I like calculators, and I think almost everyone answering in the positive does too. Most people don't care about them, and see their phone as a god-given miracle, I guess, which makes calculators an expensive-ish burden.
- technothrasher 8mo agoI use a junky $5 calculator when I'm working with my mill and lathe. It's easier to have the little thing there at hand in the machine shop to do quick calculations than to have a whole computer.
- 2ICofafireteam 8mo agoSame, but for the cleanliness and safety of my phone.
- ProllyInfamous 8mo ago>the cleanliness and safety of phones As a habit, I do not touch others' phones. CoVid helped solidify this decision, but meeting a sex worker that also cleaned houses was the real eye-opener — she would casually go from cleaning a toilet to washing dishes to fluffing johns... then hop right back on her phone. In my previous career (as electrician) many crawlspace disasters were photographed on my own personal device. Obviously no hand-washing was involved in the above observations. I personally no longer use a mobile phone. Hand sanitizer is my fragrance (I add witch hazel ... shh!)
- 2ICofafireteam 8mo agoAt work that phone would be called a secondary contamination source....and in an aquarium perhaps a refugium?
- ProllyInfamous 8mo agoI worked in a laptop repair facility decades ago... at the time I didn't realize how contaminated they were =X As a habit when people want to show me something on their phone (or translation apps/whatever) I put hands into pockets. —retired from blunt passing
- JetSetIlly 8mo agoYes. When accounting I use a cheap calculator to do quick sums. Easier than using a calculator on the computer desktop.
- bookofjoe 8mo agoI use a Casio HL-815L to manage my checkbook. I lost the ability to do this math in my head about 10 years ago. I am 77.
- ralferoo 8mo agoThe first time I went to China and spoke basically no Mandarin (just "want", "don't want", "this one", "that one", "how much money", "thank you") I took a cheap calculator when I went shopping for electronics and just let people type in the price they wanted. It was also useful for haggling too.
- HardwareLust 8mo agoThat, and a small notebook (many people can read a bit of English better than hearing it) can get you 99% of the way there. I did a lot of traveling pre-mobile and pre-internet and these simple tools served me very well!
- sejje 8mo agoOr a pocket translator like chatgpt
- wolvoleo 8mo agoWhen I went to Thailand all the merchants had calculators for exactly that purpose:)
- greenbit 8mo agoMy HP32s from ~40 years ago still resides on my workbench where I mess around with RF circuits for fun. It has no graphing capability and it's barely programmable, but that's ok, I keep an actual computer nearby for those sorts of things. The calculator keeps earning new batteries bc tinkering with analog circuits I frequently want to evaluate little things like AB/(A+B) or 1/2piF or (1+S)/(1-S), or need the log 10 or square root or the cosine of something. In those circumstances, the calculator's compact form factor is quite convenient, compared to needing two hands at the computer keyboard, or one handedly hunt-pecking said keyboard. As for the mouse, that has to be the slowest, most focus stealing option of them all. The calculator doesn't take much room, so it can be kept within arm's reach without getting in the way, quickly gives me the numbers I need, without demanding I become fully engaged with it. Also, those old HP buttons are just so nice to press, a refreshing break from the dead flat glass you get everywhere else these days.
- sublinear 8mo agoFor over a decade I've been using emulators of the calculators I grew up using on all my android phones. I see no point in changing my "weird" ways. I use RealCalc for most things (RPN style). Has many functions like a scientific, but I mostly stick to the basic four and it also converts units. I switch to Graph89 when I need a graph/table involving trig or polynomial approximations. Sometimes I'll even write a basic program. If I'm using this app I probably also have measuring tools out for a DIY project. I go to spreadsheets for anything beyond that using "Office: Planmaker". It handles the xlsx format perfectly! That's how I do my monthly budget, health tracking, etc. For reasons beyond my understanding, some people are still impressed seeing proper full-featured spreadsheets done quickly on a phone.
- JohnFen 8mo agoYes, I do. At my workbench, I find them much faster and more convenient than using my phone or a computer.
- jleyank 8mo agoButton feedback, reduced chance of fat fingered mistype. Doesn’t tie up phone holding numbers on screen.
- xtiansimon 8mo agoOi! You forgot adding machines. Big buttons, +/- features, auto-tax. And! Inexplicably none of the pre-installed calculators emulate them—bizarre. And yes, I do use an adding machine, Sharp EL-1750
- rimunroe 8mo agoI keep my ~25 year old Ti-83 or 84 from middle and high school in my shop because I find using it while working on stuff with dirty hands much easier than my phone or tablet. I just need something which basically never needs new batteries and lets me use parentheses to group expressions and the occasional trig function. I think the current batteries are almost ten years old now.
- fd111 8mo agoHP-42S; cold dead hands; etc. Why? Satisfyingly-clicky real buttons in memorizable positions Easy to grab without thinking I have a functionally identical emulator on my phone, which is far better than the built-in calcualtor, but it's a supremely dissatisfying substitute for the real thing.
- BrandoElFollito 8mo agoI have a fantastic French calculator from Numworks (https://www.numworks.com/ https://www.numworks.com/). The problem is that it is always discharged... For quick conversions → Chrome address bar (10 USD in EUR, 1.82 m in inches, ...) For additions, multiplications, substractions and divisions: my android built in calculator because it has a large display and it is independent from my monitors For advanced calculations, Wolfram Alpha ← it is really good (when it understands what I men which is often, or otherwise ChatGPT as below). The only problem with this one is that it is greeting me with emojis, cracking some jokes and generally tells me about his life before telling me how long) Or recently ChatGPT/Gemini ("200 MB on 140 Mbps how long")
- knaik94 8mo agoI tutor advanced math and science and so have updated my daily driver along with whatever students were most likely to come across. In the past it was a ti 84 and then ti 89 titanium. But in the last decade schools have also embraced Desmos, a simplified version is even accessible on their standardized tests now. For personal use, I have an android emulator that runs TI 89 titanium. It hits the sweet spot for me in terms of completely covering basic and advanced features I would need from a calculator. If I need something extremely basic, I use the one built into Google search. If I ever feel myself limited by the 89, it's always been because I am trying to do something that would be better served by Excel or Desmos. The best calculator is the one most easily available. I personally don't see value in keeping a separate device. On the other hand, I will go out of my way to make sure the keyboard I am using has a dedicated numpad. There's nothing that comes close to the efficiency of tactile keys when it comes to doing long numeric calculations.
- buddylw 8mo agoI have a Swiss Micros DM42, a modern clone of the HP42s on my desk and I have the plus42/free42 app on pretty much every device I own. Stack based calculators are great because the stack works as a little scratchpad when I'm trying to figure something out. If I'm solving a problem of any complexity I'll move to a more appropriate tool like python or a spreadsheet, but for the simple math that needs to be done around the edges personally and professionally, I like a calculator. If I'm at my desk, I'll use the physical version.
- dubbie99 8mo agoI have one on my desk at work. I use it 2-3 times a week for quickly calculating things. It gives me a good feeling every time I use it.
- seanhunter 8mo agoMe too. Love my DM42. I also have an HP35s and two HP12Cs still on the batteries they were rocking over 10 years ago when I used them daily in my finance days. To answer the op's question, any RPN calculator is wildly better than the default calculators on things like iOS once you take the time to learn to use it[1]. If you want a good calculator app, Thomas Okken's free42 is a great, free HP42S emulator which runs on iOS. I still prefer a physical calculator (eg the swissmicros has more screen space so you can see 4 lines of stack and dedicated function buttons) but it's much better than the default. [1] Great support for complex numbers in polar or rectangular form, fewer keypresses for multi-step operations, no ambiguity (whatsoever) about operator order without any need for parentheses, vast number of memory slots (not just one), the ability to write a program to do anything you can do manually on the calculator so you can automate anything you do frequently, numerical integration and root finding etc etc there are many many benefits.
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- sixtyj 8mo agoSwissMicros calculators are absolute gem. Thanks. They even have printed manual for DM32. https://www.swissmicros.com/product/user-manual-dm32 https://www.swissmicros.com/product/user-manual-dm32
- sn9 8mo agoI use an emulated scientific calculator Android app which has all the features of a physical calculator but none of the performance issues. If I'm at my laptop, I usually just use a IPython REPL.
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- kenanfyi 8mo ago- I use my HP Prime at work almost daily and I love that it has a touch screen where I can quickly copy paste past calculations. This in my opinion is better than using a stack calculator and RPN. There are also some small programs I wrote for like calculating parallel pairs for a given resistor value, based on E-Series since calculating resistors for stuff is quite a standard thing for your day as an hardware design engineer. - I also have a Casio fx-991ES Plus which I bought during my student years and love to use it, because it is way faster for quick stuff than my Prime and I changed its battery in the past 10 years just once. This is not the case for Prime where I have to charge it every week or two. But doesn't bother me. Prime is an amazing calculator.
- tamiral 8mo agoi still use my TI calculator for the engineering days. It's such a useful piece of hardware. I dont do any big calculations anymore but still gives you that feeling of slowing down without notifications.
- rodrigodlu 8mo agoYes. Casio FX-991 es plus. I did use for integrals, derivatives, etc, in a distant past. Now I'm using to do simple calculations, including checking Claude code/opus math and logic.
- fullstick 8mo agoYes. My TI-30X has been in my backpack since I started college 17 years ago. It still works flawlessly every time I pull it out
- tmaly 8mo agoI still use a basic calculator once in a while when I want to get away from a screen and just work on paper. I haven't turned on my old TI-85 in a while.