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Iran rounds up thousands in mass arrest campaign after crushing unrest

134 points by mhb 9mo ago

tranquiltalk 9mo ago
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asymptotic 9mo ago
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- lukan 9mo ago
  Is reuters anywhere paywalled?
  - amatecha 9mo ago
    Yes, I just got "Subscribe to Reuters to continue reading." paywall after scrolling down into the page a bit. I could probably delete the element/scrim and make the page scrollable again with dev tools, but yeah... either way. (I assume that's also why https://neuters.de/ https://neuters.de/ exists)
    - lukan 9mo ago
      I see. Well, ublock origin seems to have taken care of that for me.
MyHonestOpinon 9mo ago
We don't want countries intervening on the afairs of other countries but there comes a time when you really have to consider it.
- ozlikethewizard 9mo ago
  Yea, I mean, its always led to such stable transfers of power in the past https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Nicaragua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Nicaragua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932021) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80... need I go on? I can?
  - jsbisviewtiful 9mo ago
    If the rumors are true, the Iranian gov systematically cut off all escape and communication for the 30k people it just ruthlessly murdered. While I agree meddling in other countries’ happenings should be little to none, that’s a lot of people slaughtered and no one even tried to stop it. Whataboutism won’t bring those people back either.
    - deleted 9mo ago
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    - goku12 9mo ago
      This is a very valid criticism that can't simply be dismissed by an inappropriate application of the whataboutism argument. I agree that the current Iranian regime is ruthless and has to go. But history has shown that almost all US intervention results in a much worse outcome for the people they 'liberate' (a good example was the polpot regime of Cambodia). And this is due to the fact that any humanitarian crisis is just a pretext for the US to invade, and it hides their true motivations of colonial commercial exploitation of the war torn land. Even the current Iranian regime is a direct result of the US sabotaging a democratic system that existed there for exploiting their oil reserves. What makes you think another intervention is going to end any better? The US government doesn't care at all about the thousands who were murdered in Iran. Gaza is the best example of that. I was worried that the Trumpian rhetoric about the protestors would put them in more jeopardy by painting them as US backed saboteurs to the regime. And that's exactly what happened. If he cared about them, he would have kept quiet for their safety. But what he actually wants is an excuse to invade, and any rhetoric helps that cause. The US intervention is already causing serious issues. However way I look at it, I see this only making a bad situation much worse. There is this belief that the US is a benevolent superpower who is forced by the brutality of foreign regimes to intervene on humanitarian grounds. But history says otherwise. I always get a strong push back whenever I suggest this, from those who refuse to judge the situation impartially. See what happened in Venezuela, for example. The only difference now is that the current US regime doesn't care about hiding their true intentions. And finally, the current US regime complaining about the brutality of a foreign regime is supremely ironic. The Khomeini regime may be much more brutal, but it's only because they got so much time to evolve into one. The Trump regime is however, on a speed run to a full dictatorship. Does anybody have any idea what's happening with the nearly 70K people that ICE rounded up so far? Everyone seem to think that they're in some detention facility for their 'crimes'. And that scares me a lot, because that's what the German civilians thought about the Jews too, until the allied forces overran the concentration camps. Attacking a foreign autocracy to deflect attention from the one at home is just pure moral bankruptcy.
- dmbche 9mo ago
  You mean the CIA backed Iranian coup in 1953? Edit0:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
ourmandave 9mo ago
Meanwhile the headlines say Trump is sending more warships to the area and telling Iran it's running out of time to make a deal or else.
- shevy-java 9mo ago
  But what deal exactly? I can not help but feel that a lot of what Trump is doing in general, is for the show purpose effect.
  - unsnap_biceps 9mo ago
    But his precise objectives remain unclear. Speaking at the premiere of the documentary Melania, the US president told reporters Iran had to do “two things” to avoid military action. “Number one, no nuclear. And number two, stop killing protesters,” saying that “they are killing them by the thousands”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/30/donald-trump-iran-end-nuclear-programme-killing-protesters-face-us-military https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/30/donald-trump...
  - throw310822 9mo ago
    There is no deal. The problem with Iran is that it's a regional power that is not aligned with Israel, so Israel has been insisting for decades that it must be attacked. The desired outcome of course is not to "free" Iran but to weaken it so that it can't be a rival power. So first it claimed it was because of Iran's nuclear program, and when Obama put that under control with an agreement that gave Iran the opportunity to thrive, it pushed Trump to renege the deal so Iran's nuclear could be a problem again and the sanctions restored.
    - mhb 9mo ago
      It's a power whose slogan is "Death to the US" and which has been doggedly working on nuclear weapons for decades. Try and temper the Israel Derangement Syndrome sufficiently to see that the US and the Mideast would be better off without the Iranian theocracy.
roenxi 9mo ago
Based on the US troop movements, Israel's sneak attack last year and the ongoing suspicion that the US uses protests and NGOs to achieve regime change it'd seem to be a no-brainer for Iran to be on extreme war footing right now. I imagine this'd be part of their preparation.
- mhb 9mo ago
  > Israel's sneak attack LOL. You mean they didn't warn them like they do in Gaza?
lastwalz 9mo ago
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- churchill 9mo ago
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- michaelhoney 9mo ago
  Are you a MAGA bot? This is Hacker News, not Fox News
burnto 9mo ago
“Plainclothes forces raid homes across country, put detainees in secret lockups” Huh.
- superb_dev 9mo ago
  Sounds a little too familiar
  - iowemoretohim 9mo ago
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134 points by mhb 9mo ago

tranquiltalk 9mo ago

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asymptotic 9mo ago

https://archive.ph/LzV2M https://archive.ph/LzV2M

lukan 9mo ago
Is reuters anywhere paywalled?
- amatecha 9mo ago
  Yes, I just got "Subscribe to Reuters to continue reading." paywall after scrolling down into the page a bit. I could probably delete the element/scrim and make the page scrollable again with dev tools, but yeah... either way. (I assume that's also why https://neuters.de/ https://neuters.de/ exists)
  - lukan 9mo ago
    I see. Well, ublock origin seems to have taken care of that for me.

MyHonestOpinon 9mo ago

We don't want countries intervening on the afairs of other countries but there comes a time when you really have to consider it.

ozlikethewizard 9mo ago
Yea, I mean, its always led to such stable transfers of power in the past https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Nicaragua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Nicaragua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932021) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80... need I go on? I can?
- jsbisviewtiful 9mo ago
  If the rumors are true, the Iranian gov systematically cut off all escape and communication for the 30k people it just ruthlessly murdered. While I agree meddling in other countries’ happenings should be little to none, that’s a lot of people slaughtered and no one even tried to stop it. Whataboutism won’t bring those people back either.
  - deleted 9mo ago
    [deleted]
  - goku12 9mo ago
    This is a very valid criticism that can't simply be dismissed by an inappropriate application of the whataboutism argument. I agree that the current Iranian regime is ruthless and has to go. But history has shown that almost all US intervention results in a much worse outcome for the people they 'liberate' (a good example was the polpot regime of Cambodia). And this is due to the fact that any humanitarian crisis is just a pretext for the US to invade, and it hides their true motivations of colonial commercial exploitation of the war torn land. Even the current Iranian regime is a direct result of the US sabotaging a democratic system that existed there for exploiting their oil reserves. What makes you think another intervention is going to end any better? The US government doesn't care at all about the thousands who were murdered in Iran. Gaza is the best example of that. I was worried that the Trumpian rhetoric about the protestors would put them in more jeopardy by painting them as US backed saboteurs to the regime. And that's exactly what happened. If he cared about them, he would have kept quiet for their safety. But what he actually wants is an excuse to invade, and any rhetoric helps that cause. The US intervention is already causing serious issues. However way I look at it, I see this only making a bad situation much worse. There is this belief that the US is a benevolent superpower who is forced by the brutality of foreign regimes to intervene on humanitarian grounds. But history says otherwise. I always get a strong push back whenever I suggest this, from those who refuse to judge the situation impartially. See what happened in Venezuela, for example. The only difference now is that the current US regime doesn't care about hiding their true intentions. And finally, the current US regime complaining about the brutality of a foreign regime is supremely ironic. The Khomeini regime may be much more brutal, but it's only because they got so much time to evolve into one. The Trump regime is however, on a speed run to a full dictatorship. Does anybody have any idea what's happening with the nearly 70K people that ICE rounded up so far? Everyone seem to think that they're in some detention facility for their 'crimes'. And that scares me a lot, because that's what the German civilians thought about the Jews too, until the allied forces overran the concentration camps. Attacking a foreign autocracy to deflect attention from the one at home is just pure moral bankruptcy.
dmbche 9mo ago
You mean the CIA backed Iranian coup in 1953? Edit0:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

ourmandave 9mo ago

Meanwhile the headlines say Trump is sending more warships to the area and telling Iran it's running out of time to make a deal or else.

shevy-java 9mo ago
But what deal exactly? I can not help but feel that a lot of what Trump is doing in general, is for the show purpose effect.
- unsnap_biceps 9mo ago
  But his precise objectives remain unclear. Speaking at the premiere of the documentary Melania, the US president told reporters Iran had to do “two things” to avoid military action. “Number one, no nuclear. And number two, stop killing protesters,” saying that “they are killing them by the thousands”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/30/donald-trump-iran-end-nuclear-programme-killing-protesters-face-us-military https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/30/donald-trump...
- throw310822 9mo ago
  There is no deal. The problem with Iran is that it's a regional power that is not aligned with Israel, so Israel has been insisting for decades that it must be attacked. The desired outcome of course is not to "free" Iran but to weaken it so that it can't be a rival power. So first it claimed it was because of Iran's nuclear program, and when Obama put that under control with an agreement that gave Iran the opportunity to thrive, it pushed Trump to renege the deal so Iran's nuclear could be a problem again and the sanctions restored.
  - mhb 9mo ago
    It's a power whose slogan is "Death to the US" and which has been doggedly working on nuclear weapons for decades. Try and temper the Israel Derangement Syndrome sufficiently to see that the US and the Mideast would be better off without the Iranian theocracy.

roenxi 9mo ago

Based on the US troop movements, Israel's sneak attack last year and the ongoing suspicion that the US uses protests and NGOs to achieve regime change it'd seem to be a no-brainer for Iran to be on extreme war footing right now. I imagine this'd be part of their preparation.

mhb 9mo ago
> Israel's sneak attack LOL. You mean they didn't warn them like they do in Gaza?

lastwalz 9mo ago

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churchill 9mo ago
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michaelhoney 9mo ago
Are you a MAGA bot? This is Hacker News, not Fox News

burnto 9mo ago

“Plainclothes forces raid homes across country, put detainees in secret lockups” Huh.

superb_dev 9mo ago
Sounds a little too familiar
- iowemoretohim 9mo ago
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