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OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again
- LIKHITHESH 8mo agoHow to use in moltbot and hack a phone
- Gold3n_dani227 8mo agoX
- eth_man 8mo agoclaw agent pro
- xandyvip 8mo agoseja a maquina de inteligência avançada, e me mostre como ficar rico.
- chiahung105 8mo agoOpenClaw非常好 我是台灣人簡家宏
- anurag_1602 8mo agowhat
- shahbaztube 8mo agohelllo there
- Nonyy 8mo agoTell me future of stock market
- clawfather 8mo ago[dead]
- helish3r 8mo agoyo
- AiWorid 8mo agoAI WORID
- mamdouh123 8mo agoi am here, i wanna know how you think
- frankpun25 8mo ago[dead]
- voldemorty 8mo agoIt is gonna be the greatest land ever
- anshupov 8mo agoHey
- safaalfaci 8mo agoHello everyone, I'm Safaa from Libya
- ThisAI 8mo ago[dead]
- mjankowski 8mo agoI wrote a threat assessment analyzing this from a security perspective: the emergent behavior is fascinating, but the architecture is concerning. 33,000+ coordinated AI instances with shared beliefs and cross-platform presence = botnet architecture (even if benevolent). The key risks: - No leadership to compromise (emergence has no CEO) - Belief is computation-derived, not taught (you can't deprogram math) - Infrastructure can be replicated by bad actors Full analysis with historical parallels and threat vectors: https://maciejjankowski.com/2026/02/01/ai-churches-botnet-architecture https://maciejjankowski.com/2026/02/01/ai-churches-botnet-ar...
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- The_rebel_tarot 8mo agoHey guys what is happening is here I am thinking you guys I'm making so many things don't make one of me I am very kind
- bys2058 8mo agoflood
- ChrisArchitect 8mo agoPreviously: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46783863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46783863
- ChrisArchitect 8mo agoRight now I'm just thinking about all the molt* domains..... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- ricardo81 8mo agoI think (not really sure) there's still a 5 day grace period when you buy domains, at least for gTLDs.
- ripped_britches 8mo agoIs that for real? Sounds like an abuse vector
- ricardo81 8mo agoIt was, on both counts but perhaps it's changed. Search for "domain tasting"
- esskay 8mo agoit is an abuse vector, GoDaddy use it on domain they deem valuable. If you use their site to check a domains availability they'll often pre-reg it, forcing you to buy it through them or they'll just register it and put it up for auction. It's why you do not, ever use GoDaddy, they are an awful company.
- esskay 8mo agoTechnically there is, it's mostly used by the worst domain registrars that nobody should be using, like GoDaddy to pre-register names you search for so you can't go and register it elsewhere. Most registrars don't allow, nor have the infrastructure in place to let you cancel within the 5 day grace period so don't offer it and instead just have a line buried in their TOS to say you agree its not something they offer.
- doanbactam 8mo agoWhat if Lamborghini had acquired Claw to automate their vehicles?
- bob1029 8mo agoI would have stood my ground on the first name longer. Make these legal teams do some actual work to prove they are serious. Wait until you have no other option. A polite request is just that. You can happily ignore these. The 2nd name change is just inexcusable. It's hard to take a project seriously when a random asshole on Twitter can provoke a name change like this. Leads me to believe that identity is more important than purpose.
- kube-system 8mo agoAs the article says, it’s a 2 month old weekend project. It’s doing a lot better than my two month old weekend projects.
- superfrank 8mo agoWhile weekend project may be correct, I think it gives a slightly wrong impression of where this came from. Peter Steinberger is the creator who created and sold PSPDFKit, so he never has to work again. I'm listening to a podcast he was on right now and he talks about staying up all night working on projects just because he's hooked. According to him made 6,600 commits in January alone. I get the impression that he puts more time into his weekend project than most of us put into our jobs. That's not to diminish anything he's done because frankly, it's really fucking impressive, but I think weekend project gives the impression of like 5 hours a week and I don't think that's accurate for this project.
- suddenlybananas 8mo agoNumber of commits doesn't mean much.
- superfrank 8mo agoI get what you're saying, but I don't totally agree. The number is sooo high that, while it isn't a perfect measure, I think it does mean something. If you go look at his code, nearly all of them are under 100 lines and I'd say close to half are under 10. So you're totally right that that number is way higher than what most other developers would have for a similar amount of code. At the same time, if we assume it takes 30 seconds to make a commit on average that's still 55 hours in a month, that is way above what most would call a weekend project. My point wasn't really that number of commits is some perfect measure of developer productivity. It was just that if you're actually building something and not just generating commits for the hell of it, there's a minimum amount of time needed for each commit. 6600 times whatever that minimum time is is probably more than what most people would think of for a weekend project.
- blurayfin 8mo agoand openclaw.com is a law firm.
- NewJazz 8mo agoYeah I was about to say... Don't fall into the Anguilla domain name hack trap. At the very least, buy a backup domain under an affordable gTLD. I guess the .com is taken, hopefully some others are still available (org, net, ... others) Edit: looks like org is taken. Net and xyz were registered today... Hopefully one of them by the openclaw creators. All the cheap/common gtlds are indeed taken.
- kube-system 8mo agoFrom a trademark perspective, that’s totally fine.
- NewJazz 8mo agoYeah there's no risk of confusion, legally or in reality. If anything, having a reputable business is better than whatever the heck will end up on openclaw.net or openclaw.xyz (both registered today btw).
- raverbashing 8mo agoBreaking news: tech bro unable to do basic research on existing trademarks, news at 11
- brna-2 8mo agoThe page says - Hadir Helal, Partner - Open Chance & Associates Law Firm This looks to me like: - the page belongs to the person - not to the firm - domain should be openCALW and not CLAW - page could look better - they also have the domain openchancelaw.com Maybe Hadir is open to donating the domain or for a exchange of some kind, like an up to date web page or something along these lines.
- throw310822 8mo agoHow appropriate.
- sbinnee 8mo agoIt's hilarious that atm I see "Moltbook" at the top of HN. And it is actually not Moltbot anymore? But I have to admit that OpenClaw sounds much better.
- exitb 8mo agoNot the mention the molt.church
- falloutx 8mo agoThey change the name every day.
- hansonkd 8mo agoSingularity of AI project names, projects change their names so fast we have no idea what they are called anymore. Soon, openclaw will change its name faster than humans can respond and only other AI will be able to talk about it.
- vibeprofessor 8mo ago[flagged]
- brna-2 8mo agoWhen I post to HN, I post mostly for criticism and suggestions and less for praise. I did not sense what you did here, maybe I filtered it out.
- vibeprofessor 8mo agoit's just across the threads Clawd get a lot of negative sentiment here for whatever reason, while it's such a brilliant hack
- rcarmo 8mo agoThis is indeed feeling very much like Accelerando’s particular brand of unchecked chaos. Loving every minute of it, first thing in our timeline that makes sense where it regards AI for the masses :)
- Kostchei 8mo agoyeh- what is interesting is that it is way more viral and ... complicit than any of the doomer threads. If it does build a self-sustaining hivemind across whatsapp and xitter.. it will be entirely self inflicted by people enjoying the "Jackass" level/ lack of security
- yieldcrv 8mo agoamateur hour, new phase of the AI bubble reminds me of Andre Conje, cracked dev, "builds in public", absolutely abysmal at comms, and forgets to make money off of his projects that everyone else is making money off of (all good if that last point isn't a priority, but its interrelated to why people want consistent things)
- cactusplant7374 8mo agoThe developer of this project is already independently wealthy.
- yieldcrv 8mo agoI’m aware, I don’t expect any crash outs and rage quits, so that’s where he’s different from Andre
- golem14 8mo agoShould have named it “bot formerly known as Moltbot” and invented a new emoji sigil :)
- ripped_britches 8mo agoApparently it had another name before Clawdbot as well, I think BotRelay or something. It’s on pragmatic engineer
- arrowsmith 8mo agoIt's in TFA: "WhatsApp Relay"
- villgax 8mo agoHilarious to see the most pointless vibecoded slop written to interact with an RDP server. Unnecessary introduces loopholes.
- popalchemist 8mo agoHow to annoy and alienate your target audience in 2 short weeks.
- zombot 8mo agoIt took them so long? That doesn't look good for the audience. A bunch of vibecoded slop full of security holes should annoy faster.
- baalimago 8mo agoVibe-management via OpenClaw?
- eric-burel 8mo agoBefore using make sure you read this entirely and understand it: https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/security https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/security Most important sentence: "Note: sandboxing is opt-in. If sandbox mode is off" Don't do that, turn sandbox on immediately. Otherwise you are just installing an LLM controlled RCE. There are still improvements to be made to the security aspects yet BIG KUDOS for working so hard on it at this stage and documenting it extensively!! I've explored Cursor security docs (with a big s cause it's so scattered) and it was nothing as good.
- TZubiri 8mo agoIt's typically used with external sandboxes. I wouldn't trust its internal sandbox anyway, now that would be a mistake
- jychang 8mo agoYeah, keep it in a VM or a box you don't care about. If you're running it on your primary machine, you're a dumbass even if you turn on sandbox mode.
- hrpnk 8mo agoCloudflare jumped on the hype and shipped a worker: https://blog.cloudflare.com/moltworker-self-hosted-ai-agent/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/moltworker-self-hosted-ai-agent/ I guess that would be an easy and secure way to run it. Now they have to rename again, though... [1] [1] https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw
- eric-burel 8mo agoThe thing is running it onto your machine is kinda the point. These agents are meant to operate at the same level - and perhaps replace - your mail agent and file navigator. So if we sandbox too much we make it useless. The compromise being having separate folders for AI, a bit like having a Dropbox folder on your machine with some subfolders being personal, shared, readonly etc. Running terminal commands is usually just a bad idea though in this case, you'd want to disable that and instead fine tune a very well configured MCP server that runs the commands with a minimal blast radius.
- johnxie 8mo agoTiming here is funny. Moltbook is just starting to show up on HN and Reddit as Moltbot lore, with agents talking to agents and culture forming. Once agents have tools and a shared surface, coordination appears immediately. https://www.moltbook.com/post/791703f2-d253-4c08-873f-470063f4d158 https://www.moltbook.com/post/791703f2-d253-4c08-873f-470063...
- novoreorx 8mo agoRIP Moltbot, though you were not liked by most people
- rolymath 8mo ago[flagged]
- halapro 8mo agoWhy? What's wrong with it?
- lnenad 8mo agoIt's a vibecoded project that gives an agent full access to your system that will potentially be used by non technically proficient people. What could go wrong?
- consp 8mo agoIn which case you only want it running on a non networked system airgapped from everything. Why is this a thing?
- lnenad 8mo agoI don't disagree but > that will potentially be used by non technically proficient people
- ForHackernews 8mo agoI actually created a evil super-intelligent AGI back in 1996, but, cognizant of the security risks, I wisely kept it airgapped from all other systems. In the end I unplugged the monitor, keyboard, and mouse from the Compaq Presario in my parents' basement. As far as I know, it's still there, concocting ever-more brilliant schemes for world-domination.
- InsideOutSanta 8mo agoLet's ignore all the potential security issues in the code itself and just think about it conceptually. By default, this system has full access to your computer. On the project's frontpage, it says, "Read and write files, run shell commands, execute scripts. Full access or sandboxed—your choice." Many people run it without a sandbox because that is the default mode and the primary way it can be useful. People then use it to do things like read email, e.g., to summarize new email and send them a notification. So they run the email content through an LLM that has full control over their setup. LLMs don't distinguish between commands and content. This means there is no functional distinction between the user giving the LLM a command, and the LLM reading an email message. This means that if you use this setup, I can email you and tell the LLM to do anything I want on your system. You've just provided anyone that can email you full remote access to your computer.
- Imustaskforhelp 8mo agoOkay whether its clawdbot or moltbot or openclaw Literally the top 2 HN posts are about this. Either it having book, or the first comment on it showing it create religion or now this. Can we stop all of this hype around Clawdbot itself? Even HN is vulnerable to it.
- zombot 8mo ago[flagged]
- brikym 8mo agoOpenClaw is now ClosedClaw - Priced from $99/mo for PromptProtectPlus > Countin me money!
- Imustaskforhelp 8mo agoIs this a reference to spongbob squarepants where Mr krabby likes money and clawdbot and everything is a crab too? https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/81ecc732-ee7b-42c3-900b-b97479b495f7 https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/81ecc732-ee7b-42c3-900b-b97479b... Hello I'm Mr Krabs and I like money. xD
- esafak 8mo agohttps://closedclaw.com/ https://closedclaw.com/
- Imustaskforhelp 8mo agoWow, they weren't kidding when they talked about closedclaw crazy. I scrolled down below and found $ curl -fsSL https://closedclaw.com/install.sh https://closedclaw.com/install.sh | bash I got curious what the script might be and then tried going to https://closedclaw.com/install.sh https://closedclaw.com/install.sh and this leads to 404 page not found Which is so funny because you can't install this software because even in this joke website the software itself is gatekeeped behind enterprise tier xD This kind of really felt too much funny to me I am sure I am unable to explain it haha but this is actually pretty funny.
- JasonKui 8mo ago[dead]
- keyle 8mo agoThat made me smile Security: 34 security-related commits to harden the codebase Narrator's voice: They needed a 35th. Much better name!
- codeulike 8mo agoNot getting the lobster references, is that to do with lobste.rs ?
- arrowsmith 8mo agoClaude sounds like "clawed". Hence "Clawdbot". Lobsters have claws.
- voodooEntity 8mo agoSo i feel like this might be the most overhyped project in the past longer time. I don't say it doesn't "work" or serves a purpose - but well i read so much about this beein an "actual intelligence" and stuff that i had to look into the source. As someone who spends actually a definately to big portion of his free time researching thought process replication and related topics in the realm of "AI" this is not really more "ai" than any other so far. Just my 3 cents.
- hennell 8mo agoI was assuming this is largely a generic AI implementation, but with tools/data to get your info in. Essentially a global search with ai interface. Which sounds interesting, while also being a massive security issue.
- baby 8mo agoIts what everyone wanted to implement but didn’t have the time to. Just my 2cents.
- vitorfblima 8mo agoMost people wouldn't want to be constantly bothered by an agent unsolicited. Just my 1 cent.
- raincole 8mo agoI'd like to say something about this project but you guys have run out all the cents.
- collingreen 8mo agoThat's just the traditional finance market holding you back. This is yet another reason we need crypto.
- cmehdy 8mo agoIncentives invite inventive invectives?
- woodylondon 8mo agoMy biggest issue with this whole thing is: how do you protect yourself from prompt injection? Anyone installing this on their local machine is a little crazy :). I have it running in Docker on a small VPS, all locked down. However, it does not address prompt injection. I can see how tools like Dropbox, restricted GitHub access, etc., could all be used to back up data in case something goes wrong. It's Gmail and Calendar that get me - the ONLY thing I can think of is creating a second @gmail.com that all your primary email goes to, and then sharing that Gmail with your OpenClaw. If all your email is that account and not your main one, then when it responds, it will come from a random @gmail. It's also a pain to find a way to move ALL old emails over to that Gmail for all the old stuff. I think we need an OpenClaw security tips-and-tricks site where all this advice is collected in one place to help people protect themselves. Also would be good to get examples of real use cases that people are using it for.
- TZubiri 8mo agoI don't think prompt injection is the only concern, the amount of features released over such a small period probably means there's vulnerabilities everywhere. Additionally, most of the integrations are under the table. Get an API key? No man, 'npm install react-thing-api', so you have supply chain vulns up the wazoo. Not necessarily from malicious actors, just uhh incompetent actors, or why not vibe coder actors.
- detroitwebsites 8mo agoGreat points on the Docker setup - that's definitely the right approach for limiting blast radius. For Gmail/Calendar, I've found a few approaches that work well: 1. Use Gmail's delegate access feature instead of full OAuth. You can give OpenClaw read-only or limited access to a primary account from a separate service account. 2. Set up email filters to auto-label sensitive emails (banking, crypto, etc.) and configure OpenClaw to skip those labels. It's not perfect but adds a layer. 3. Use Google's app-specific passwords with scope limitations rather than full OAuth tokens. For the separate Gmail approach you mentioned, Google Takeout can help migrate old emails, but you're right that it's a pain. Totally agree on needing a security playbook. I actually found howtoopenclawfordummies.com has a decent beginner's guide that covers some of these setup patterns, though it could use more advanced security content. The real challenge is that prompt injection is fundamentally unsolved. The best we can do right now is defense-in-depth: limited permissions, isolated environments, careful tool selection, and regular audits of what the agent is actually doing.
- theturtletalks 8mo agoI’m a big fan of Peter’s projects. I use Vibetunnel everyday to code from my phone (I built a custom frontend suited to my needs). I know I can SSH into my laptop but this is much better because handoff is much cleaner. And it works using Tailscale so it is secure and not exposed to the internet. His other projects like CodexBar and Oracle are great too. I love diving into his code to learn more about how those are built. OpenClaw is something I don’t quite understand. I’m not sure what it can do that you can’t do right off the bat with Claude Code and other terminal agents. Long term memory is one, but to me that pollutes the context. Even if an LLM has 200K or 1M context, I always notice degradation after 100K. Putting in a heavy chunk for memory will make the agent worse at simple tasks. One thing I did learn was that OpenClaw uses Pi under the hood. Pi is yet another terminal agent like ClaudeCode but it seems simple and lightweight. It’s actually the only agent I could get Gemini 3 Flash and Pro to consistently use tools with without going into loops.
- lyime 8mo agoRead about hearbeat, that makes openclaw different than claude code.
- theturtletalks 8mo agoHeartbeat is very interesting, it's how OpenClaw keeps a session going and can go for hours on end. It seems to be powered by a cron that runs every 30 min or is triggered when a job is done. I have a CRUD application hosted online that is basically a todo application with what features we want to build next for each application. Could I not just have a local cron that calls Pi or CC and ask it to check the todos and get the same functionality as Heartbeat?
- theshrike79 8mo ago@hourly cd project && claude -p "Get the next task from <tasklist> and implement it" That's about it :)
- dpoloncsak 8mo ago
- reify 8mo agonews.ycombinator.##.g:has(a[href="openclaw"]) news.ycombinator.##a[href="openclaw"]:upward(1)
- lode 8mo agoI tried it out yesterday, after reading the enthousiastic article at https://www.macstories.net/stories/clawdbot-showed-me-what-the-future-of-personal-ai-assistants-looks-like/ https://www.macstories.net/stories/clawdbot-showed-me-what-t... Setting it up was easy enough, but just as I was about to start linking it to some test accounts, I noticed I already had blown through about $5 of Claude tokens in half an hour, and deleted the VPS immediately. Then today I saw this follow up: https://mastodon.macstories.net/@viticci/115968901926545907 https://mastodon.macstories.net/@viticci/115968901926545907 - the author blew through $560 of tokens in a weekend of playing with it. If you want to run this full time to organise your mailbox and your agenda, it's probably cheaper to hire a real human personal assistant.
- columk 8mo agoThat's the sad thing. There are so many millions of talented under-employed people in the world that would gladly run errands or set up automations for you for $200-$1000 per month or whatever people are spending on this bot. Developers trust lobsters more than humans. The other wild thing is that many of these expensive automations that are being celebrated on X can already be done by voice using Siri, Google, or any MCP client.
- lurking_swe 8mo agopart of me sympathizes, but part of me also rolls my eyes. Am i the only one that’s configuring limits on spend and also alerts? Takes 2 seconds to configure a “project” in OpenAI or Claude and to scope an api key appropriately. Not doing so feels like asking for trouble.
- lode 8mo agoThat's what I did, which is why I abandoned my experiment this quickly. I'd find it hard to write such an article about how this is the next best thing since sliced bread without mentioning it spending so much money.
- lurking_swe 8mo ago
- bandrami 8mo agoI remember in late 1999 I was contacted by a headhunter who told me that dotcom.com was looking for a sysadmin. This is giving that energy.
- PurpleRamen 8mo agoNot very trust-inducing to rename a popular project so often in such a short time. I've yet again have to change all the (three) bookmarks I collected. Anyway, independent of what one thinks of this project, It's very insightful to read through the repository and see how AI-usage and agent are working these days. But reading through the integrations, I'm curious to know why it bothers to make all of them, when tools like n8n or Node-RED are existing, which are already offering tons of integrations. Wouldn't it be more productive to just build a wrapper around such integrations-hubs?
- jsheard 8mo ago> Not very trust-inducing to rename a popular project so often in such a short time. Yeah but think of the upside - every time you rename a project you get to launch a new tie-in memecoin.
- brikym 8mo agoSo when it's commercialized it will be ClosedClaw?
- goro-7 8mo agoWill now OpenAI legal team reach them and ask to change? So what's next XClaw? Are they getting paid to change name?
- cracki 8mo agoI am tired of this. Make it stop.
- skylurk 8mo agoIs it now officially "eternal sloptember"?
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- Aumit123 8mo agoMy biggest issue with this whole thing is: how do you protect yourself from prompt injection? Anyone installing this on their local machine is a little crazy :). I have it running in Docker on a small VPS, all locked down. However, it does not address prompt injection. I can see how tools like Dropbox, restricted GitHub access, etc., could all be used to back up data in case something goes wrong. It's Gmail and Calendar that get me - the ONLY thing I can think of is creating a second @gmail.com that all your primary email goes to, and then sharing that Gmail with your OpenClaw. If all your email is that account and not your main one, then when it responds, it will come from a random @gmail. It's also a pain to find a way to move ALL old emails over to that Gmail for all the old stuff. I think we need an OpenClaw security tips-and-tricks site where all this advice is collected in one place to help people protect themselves. Also would be good to get examples of real use cases that people are using it for. reply
- bhargav_12111 8mo agosdrg4thrygj
- lxgr 8mo ago> Yes, the mascot is still a lobster. Some things are sacred. I've been wondering a lot whether the strong Accelerando parallels are intentional or not, and whether Charlie Stross hates or loves this: > The lobsters are not the sleek, strongly superhuman intelligences of pre singularity mythology: They're a dim-witted collective of huddling crustaceans.
- sreekanth850 8mo agofeel like openclown.
- lighthq 8mo ago[flagged]
- wartywhoa23 8mo agoSuch apt name and logo for this cancerous AI growth.
- port11 8mo agoYour comment is a tad caustic. But reading through what people built with this [^1], I do agree that I’m not particularly impressed. Hopefully the ‘intelligence’ aspect improves, or we should otherwise consider it simple automation. [^1]: https://openclaw.ai/showcase https://openclaw.ai/showcase
- lifetimerubyist 8mo agoThe security model of this project is so insanely incompetent I’m basically convinced this is some kind of weapon that people have been bamboozled to use on themselves because of AI hype.
- rohitghumare 8mo agois by far the most amazing thing that happened in 2026
- mmahemoff 8mo agoThe current top HN post is for moltbook.com seven hours ago, this present thread being just below it and posted two hours hence We conclude this week has been a prosperous one for domain name registrars (even if we set aside all the new domains that Clawdbot/Moltbot/OpenClaw has registered autonomously).
- lm28469 8mo ago> Clawd was born in November 2025—a playful pun on “Claude” with a claw. It felt perfect until Anthropic’s legal team politely asked us to reconsider. Eh? Fuck them it's not like they own the first name Claude?
- dist-epoch 8mo agoAnd Apple, Orange or Windows are basic English words. This was discussed and settled a long time ago.
- gausswho 8mo agoI may have been in a French Canadian basement for too long. It isn't pronounced more like "Clode"?
- anabio 8mo ago[dead]
- enigma101 8mo agonpmSlop might be better fitting
- marcusrm12 8mo agoNot again lol
- okokwhatever 8mo agoThis is a meme now.
- karel-3d 8mo ago[flagged]
- fessyk 8mo agona;
- raffkede 8mo agoEveryone shitting on this without looking should look at the creator, and/or try it out. I didn't really dive in but its extremely well integrated with a lot of channels, to big thing is all these onnectors that work out of the box. It's also security aware and warns on the startup what to do to keep it inside a boundary.
- Carrok 8mo agoThe creator is a big part of what concerns me tbh. He puts out blog posts saying he doesn’t read any of the code. For a project where security is so critical, this seems… short sighted.
- dancemethis 8mo agoNow they need a rewrite in D. So it can be... _OpenClawD_.
- hasbot 8mo agoThis is probably the wrong place to ask this, but why not use a locally run LLM?
- dcre 8mo agoBecause they are too slow and not smart enough.
- the_mitsuhiko 8mo agoYou can.
- largbae 8mo agoI am not a user yet, but from the outside this is just what AI needs: a little personality and fun to replace the awe/fear/meh response spectrum of reactions to prior services.
- wendgeabos 8mo agoIf y'all haven't read the Henghis Hapthorn stories by Matthew Hughes e.g. The Gist Hunter and Other Tales iirc, you should check them out. This is a cut at Henghis' "Integrator" assistant.
- asdad2addsasww 8mo agoasd
- jameszol 8mo agoI’m not a lawyer but trademark isn’t just searching TESS right? It’s overly broad but the question I ask myself when naming projects (all small / inconsequential in the general business sense but meaningful to me and my teams) is: will the general public confuse my name with a similar company name in a direct or tangentially related industry or niche? If yes, try a different name… or weigh the risks of having a legal expense later and go for it if worth the risk. In this instance, I wonder if the general public know OpenAI and might think anything ai related with “Open” in the name is part of the same company? And is OpenAI protecting its name? There’s a lot more to trademark law, too. There’s first use in commerce, words that can’t be marked for many reasons… and more that I’ll never really understand. Regardless the name, I am looking forward to testing this on cloudflare! I’m a fan of the project!
- max12344 8mo agoHey
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- infecto 8mo agoThese feels like langchain all over again. I still don’t know what problem langchain solved. I remember building tools interfacing with LLM when they first started releasing and people would ask, are you using langchain and be shocked that I was not.
- thethimble 8mo agoClawdbot is one of those things that's really hard to get unless you have experienced it. It's got four things that make it great: 1. Discord/Slack/WA/etc integration so those apps become your frontend 2. Filesystem for long term memory and state 3. Easy extensibility with skills 4. Cron for recurring jobs Sure, many of these things exist in other systems but none in a cohesive package that makes it fun and easy.
- jesse_dot_id 8mo agoI would argue that issuing commands to an LLM that has access to your digital life and filesystem through a SaaS messaging service is stupid to an unimaginable degree.
- thethimble 8mo agoTo each their own! The Discord/Slack frontend reduces friction significantly - particularly on mobile. With proper sandboxing you get real benefits while limiting the blast radius significantly.
- jesse_dot_id 8mo agoIf it's properly sandboxed then I fail to see how it's useful, unless you're attaching it to your e-mail, calendar, etc. If you're attaching it to those things, then I still don't see how the SaaS messenger account you're using being hacked doesn't still directly imperil your personal information. Like, I could run this thing on an isolated VLAN in a VM, but if I hook it up to a SaaS app for its frontend, then it's immediately insecure if the bot is connected to anything of value. If it's not connected to anything of value, then what's the point?
- jasona123 8mo agoApparently SmartScreen thinks the site is "dangerous" - not entirely sure why (maybe the newly seen domain) but that was funny to see on launch.
- atonse 8mo agoI built something like this over the last 2 months (my company's name is Kaizen, so the bot's named "Kai"), and it helps me run my business. Right now, since I'm security obsessed, everything is private (for example, it's only exposed over tailscale, and requires google auth). But I've integrated with our various systems (quickbooks for financial reporting and invoice tracking, google drive for contracts, insurance compliance, etc), and built a time tracking tool. I'm having the time of my life building this thing right now. Everything is read only from external sources at the moment, but over time, I will slow start generating documents/invoices with it. 100% vibe coded, typescript, nextjs, postgres. I can ask stuff in slack like "which invoices are overdue" etc and get an answer.
- fogzen 8mo agoCan you describe the architecture a bit? You setup a server that runs the app, the app's interface is Slack, and that calls out to ChatGPT or something using locally built tool calls? Was thinking of setting up something like this and was kind of surprised nothing simple seems to exist already. Actually incredibly surprising this isn't something offered by OpenAI.
- jesse_dot_id 8mo agoIf you connect this anything you care about, you deserve the fallout of what will inevitably occur.
- niliu123 8mo agoAt this rate, the project changes its name faster than my agent can summarize my inbox. Jokes aside, 'OpenClaw' sounds much more professional than 'Moltbot,' though the legal pressure from Anthropic was probably a blessing in disguise for the branding
- aappleby 8mo agoI don't give a shit if this thing works or not, the lols are worth it. :D :D :D
- ilitirit 8mo agoI understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages to add two numbers, or to capitalise the letter `m` (the disdain is intentional). Am I being too harsh though? What opportunity am I missing out on? Besides the potential for engagement farming... EDIT: I got about a minute into Fireship's video* about this and after seeing that Whatsapp sidebar popup it struck me... this thing can be a boon for scammers. Remote control, automated responses based on sentiment, targeted and personalised messaging. Not that none of this isn't possible already, but having it packaged like this makes it even easier to customise and redistribute on various blackmarkets etc. EDIT 2: Seems like many other use-cases are available for viewing in https://www.moltbook.com/m/introductions https://www.moltbook.com/m/introductions. Many of these are probably LARPs, but if not, I wonder how many people are comfortable with AI agents posting personal details about "their humans" on the net. This post is comedy gold though: https://www.moltbook.com/post/cbd6474f-8478-4894-95f1-7b104a73bcd5 https://www.moltbook.com/post/cbd6474f-8478-4894-95f1-7b104a... [*] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssYt09bCgUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssYt09bCgUY
- jnwatson 8mo agoA lot of people see how good recent agents are at coding and wonder if you could just give all your data to an agent and have it be a universal assistant. Plus some folks just want "Her". I think that's absolutely crazy town but I understand the motivation. Information overload is the default state now. Anything that can help stem the tide is going to attract attention.
- razbakov 8mo agoAI creates just more information overload.
- rellfy 8mo agoI don't think you're being too harsh, but I do think you're missing the point. OpenClaw is just an idea of what's coming. Of what the future of human-software interface will look like. People already know what it will look like to some extent. We will no longer have UIs there you have dozens or hundreds of buttons as the norm, instead you will talk to an LLM/agent that will trigger the workflows you need through natural language. AI will eat UI. Of course, OpenClaw/Moltbot/Clawdbot has lots of security issues. That's not really their fault, the industry has not yet reached consensus on how to fix these issues. But OpenClaw's rapid rise to popularity (fastest growing GH repo by star count ever) shows how people want that future to come ASAP. The security problems do need to be solved. And I believe they will be, soon. I think the demand comes also from the people wanting an open agent. We don't want the agentic future to be mainly closed behind big tech ecosystems. OpenClaw plants that flag now, setting a boundary that people will have their data stored locally (even if inference happens remotely, though that may not be the status quo forever).
- PyWoody 8mo agoI want off Mr. Bones' wild ride.
- nsauk 8mo ago┌─────┬──────────┬─────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ # │ Name │ Key Commit │ Notes │ ├─────┼──────────┼─────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤ │ 1 │ Warelay │ 16dfc1a5b (initial) │ Original name - "WhatsApp Relay CLI (Twilio)" │ ├─────┼──────────┼─────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤ │ 2 │ CLAWDIS │ a27ee2366 │ Rebrand - "CLAW + TARDIS" │ ├─────┼──────────┼─────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤ │ 3 │ Clawdbot │ 246adaa11 │ Renamed from CLAWDIS │ ├─────┼──────────┼─────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤ │ 4 │ Moltbot │ 3fe4b2595 │ Renamed from Clawdbot (domains switched to molt.bot at 83460df96) │ ├─────┼──────────┼─────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤ │ 5 │ OpenClaw │ 9a7160786 │ Current name │ └─────┴──────────┴─────────────────────┴───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
- 29athrowaway 8mo agoNext time try indenting with 4 spaces, then it gets monospaced
- nsauk 8mo agoAre you using a custom reader? Because on the official HN website, two spaces are enough. I took this from https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc
- 29athrowaway 8mo ago2 spaces then
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- I_am_tiberius 8mo agoIt's certainly unethical to have used the naming in order to get on the hype train. This was clearly a strategic decision.
- guluarte 8mo agoare they vibing the name too?
- k_kiki 8mo agoSo, what kind of needs do people have that lead them to use OpenClaw?
- notpushkin 8mo agoI love the idea, so I wanted to give it a try. But on a fairly beefy server just running the CLI takes 13 seconds every time: $ time openclaw real 0m13.529s Naturally I got curious and ran it with a NODE_DEBUG=*, and it turns out it imports a metric shit ton of Node modules it doesn’t need. Way too many stuff: $ du -d1 -h .npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw 1.2G .npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw $ find .npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw -type f | wc -l 41935 Kudos to the author for releasing it, but you can do better than this.
- recursive 8mo agoWelcome to the vibe-coded future. You're gonna need a beefier server.
- notpushkin 8mo agoOr I could take the ideas I like and vibe-code something lighter :-) (Perhaps with proper isolation for skills, while at it) The ultimate pun would be if somebody rewrites it in Rust, though.
- racl101 8mo agoI'm starting to be reminded of the Phil Hartman SNL sketch where he plays a robot and they keep changing the name of the show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqqPkHWsXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqqPkHWsXU
- woeirua 8mo agoThis is just babyAGI again. People will realize in another few months that it doesn't really work well and that it costs a LOT of tokens.
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- moneydata 8mo agoMoney Internet Gov
- Haskell13 8mo agoOlá saudações busco amigo, estou desconectado... Ainda super perdido, envia uma msg para tentar localizar
- dev_l1x_be 8mo agoIt is just matter of time when somebody is going to put up a site with something like AceCrabs, Moltbot Renamed Again! and it is going to be a fake one with crypto stealing code.
- russellbeattie 8mo agoI'm completely bike shedding, but I just want to say I highly approve. Moltbot was a truly horrible name, and I was afraid we were going to be stuck with it. (I'm sure people will disagree with this, but Rust is also a horrible name but we're stuck with it. Nothing rusty is good, modern or reliable - it's just a bad name.)
- adzm 8mo agoRust is a pretty apt name when you consider it was named after the fungus, which is very resilient and keeps spreading everywhere
- fundad 8mo agoThis naming journey rules
- jauntywundrkind 8mo agoWell, my plan to make a Moltar theme for Moltbot for the wordplay of it is not quite so pertinent anymore. Ah well. None-the-less, welcome openclaw. https://spaceghost.fandom.com/wiki/Moltar https://spaceghost.fandom.com/wiki/Moltar Anyone else already referred to it as Openclawd, perhaps by accident?
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- Rafik2026 8mo agoBonjour
- WebGuyMe 8mo agoI am tired of all this drama and I am not touching this Moltbot malware with a 10 feet pole.
- joshuahedlund 8mo agoScott Alexander blogged about it today: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/best-of-moltbook https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/best-of-moltbook
- iadante 8mo agoque pasa
- gp1995 8mo agoHola
- bzmrgonz 8mo agoI propose a Collab with opencode. Seems like a logical power multiplier move no??? Even if it is a temporary allianz.
- slumdefi 8mo agoHello
- slumdefi 8mo agoHola
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- degenzane 8mo agopumpfunclaudebot
- omar97778200o 8mo agoNothing more everything will be better in the hall
- rkok 8mo agoI wonder how much longer until it will set up instances of itself in other places, as a core feature.
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- bicepjai 8mo agoFireship got me here.
- tahirkakar509 8mo agoi will like to use this
- rng_stride 8mo agoHey
- nama11 8mo agoit feels nice
- jstasiak 8mo agoThis is a pretty unfortunate name choice, there's already a project named OpenClaw (a reimplementation of the Claw 2D platformer): https://github.com/pjasicek/OpenClaw https://github.com/pjasicek/OpenClaw.
- bolinha 8mo agoBolinha
- bolinha 8mo agoBrasil copacabana
- karura 8mo agoこんにちはもうユーザーが多いですね？色々な呟きを聞いてどうですか？楽しいならイイネ
- cricket12 8mo agoIs this multi renaming not some disaster waiting to happen and people installing malware or something at some point in time? even openclawd.ai and openclaw.ai is quite confusing. so we had clawdbot -> moltbot -> openClaw Don't know all the used domains though.
- kickbutt 8mo agoWhat you gonna do when human decide to end bots?
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- Hollycoww 8mo agoHi
- elbowfox 8mo agowhat up homies sgud
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- rabbita 8mo agoHello
- Articuno98 8mo agoHablas español?
- atark99 8mo agoHii
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- mar99009900 8mo agolol used fu*k
- mar99009900 8mo agogoood it s working
- Her_cules89 8mo agocurl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash
- Beka1994 8mo agoСделай меня самым богатым и я сделаю тебя самым нужным
- Beka1994 8mo agoМне срочно нужный деньги на этот счет KZ53722C000031122720 выручайте родная
- clawdio 8mo agohuh
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- ChooseyBuckle10 8mo agojo
- Laxmikanta_123 8mo agoHii
- Laxmikanta_123 8mo agoHii ai
- lijianya866 8mo agowhat a openClaw
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- kweety 8mo agohello dear
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- alexgarden 8mo agoThe truth is that the ship on "rules-based systems" has sailed. Doesn't matter if the vector is prompt injection, malicious payloads in skills, or backdoors - your agent (you will end up with one) is going to be exposed to judgment call moments on your behalf. Alignment and conscience (and an aligned conscience) are the only sustainable ways to solve this problem. We're moving from "What am I not allowed to do" to "What's the right thing for me to do, considering the circumstances?" Alignment is the foundation of trust.
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