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Aye, and to always look for feet under and by the front wheel of vehicles like that. Stopped buses similarly, people get off the bus, whip around the front of

Aye, and to always look for feet under and by the front wheel of vehicles like that. Stopped buses similarly, people get off the bus, whip around the front of them and straight into the streets, so many times I’ve spotted someone’s feet under the front before they come around and into the street. Not to take away from Waymo here, agree with thread sentiment that they seem to have acted exemplary

fennecbutt 8mo ago
You can spot someone's feet under the width of a bus when they're on the opposite side of the bus and you're sitting in a vehicle at a much higher position on the opposite side that the bus is on? That's physically impossible.
- WheatMillington 8mo ago
  I think you're missing something though, which I've observed from reading these comments - HN commenters aren't ordinary humans, they're super-humans with cosmic powers of awareness, visibility, reactions and judgement.
  - anthonyrstevens 8mo ago
    Or they hate cars/waymo/etc and will come up with any chain of reasoning that puts those things in a bad light.
- spockz 8mo ago
  In normal (traditional?) European city cars, yes, I look for feet or shadows or other signs that there is a person in the other side. In SUVs this is largely impossible but then sometimes you can see heads or backpacks. Or you look for reflections in the cars parked around it. This is what I was taught as “defensive“ driving.
- jakewins 8mo ago
  lol no, but if you are in a regular vehicle, you can see under the front of the bus as you pass it, it’s a standard safety practice? The first picture of the bus in this random article shows what I mean, you should be checking under the bus ahead of the front wheel as you pass: https://www.nvp.se/2026-01-08/bil-i-sparviddshinder-stoppade-bussarna-hander-jatteofta/ https://www.nvp.se/2026-01-08/bil-i-sparviddshinder-stoppade... Googling this turned up a presentation from Waymo saying they do exactly this: https://www.reddit.com/r/waymo/comments/1kyapix/waymo_detects_pedestrian_from_foot_movement_under/ https://www.reddit.com/r/waymo/comments/1kyapix/waymo_detect...

fennecbutt 8mo ago

You can spot someone's feet under the width of a bus when they're on the opposite side of the bus and you're sitting in a vehicle at a much higher position on the opposite side that the bus is on? That's physically impossible.

WheatMillington 8mo ago
I think you're missing something though, which I've observed from reading these comments - HN commenters aren't ordinary humans, they're super-humans with cosmic powers of awareness, visibility, reactions and judgement.
- anthonyrstevens 8mo ago
  Or they hate cars/waymo/etc and will come up with any chain of reasoning that puts those things in a bad light.
spockz 8mo ago
In normal (traditional?) European city cars, yes, I look for feet or shadows or other signs that there is a person in the other side. In SUVs this is largely impossible but then sometimes you can see heads or backpacks. Or you look for reflections in the cars parked around it. This is what I was taught as “defensive“ driving.
jakewins 8mo ago
lol no, but if you are in a regular vehicle, you can see under the front of the bus as you pass it, it’s a standard safety practice? The first picture of the bus in this random article shows what I mean, you should be checking under the bus ahead of the front wheel as you pass: https://www.nvp.se/2026-01-08/bil-i-sparviddshinder-stoppade-bussarna-hander-jatteofta/ https://www.nvp.se/2026-01-08/bil-i-sparviddshinder-stoppade... Googling this turned up a presentation from Waymo saying they do exactly this: https://www.reddit.com/r/waymo/comments/1kyapix/waymo_detects_pedestrian_from_foot_movement_under/ https://www.reddit.com/r/waymo/comments/1kyapix/waymo_detect...