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So many Tesla/Musk haters around here.
by mdavid626 9mo ago
So many Tesla/Musk haters around here.
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- flakeoil 9mo agoPeople are just being rational and pragmatic.
- sidcool 9mo agoHow so?
- throwaway132448 9mo agoThey have self-respect.
- flakeoil 9mo agoThey say Tesla cars are not better than any other EV nowadays. They say the Tesla stock is overvalued. They say the Tesla robot will likely not be a super hit in terms of sales. I don't see it as hate. It's quite pragmatic views.
- groundzeros2015 9mo agoPeople are losing money and a product they liked because they imagine disliking it hurts an individual they don’t like. This is a lose/lose enemy centered mindset, and a weird personification of a corporation.
- throwaway132448 9mo ago[flagged]
- groundzeros2015 9mo agoIt’s more like a vodoo doll. You hurt yourself AND don’t make the world any better, but maybe it feels good to imagine the symbol getting hurt.
- throwaway132448 9mo agoYou only think I’m hurting myself because you don’t understand what having principles means, and that violating them would hurt more than any monetary penalty. Whether it hurts the other or not is completely irrelevant to my decision. But it makes sense that you think in zero-sum terms, people without principles usually do.
- groundzeros2015 9mo ago> People are just being rational and pragmatic. Principled usually means “minimizing harm” which I argue you are not doing. It can also mean doing crazy things to protect ego or ideology like “I’m going down with my ship”. It’s starting to sound like is “yeah this isn’t pragmatic but it’s really moral.”
- throwaway132448 9mo agoEdit: You edited your comment so mine is now irrelevant. You seem to think that “pragmatic” and “rational” have universal or objective definitions, which is completely untrue. For example, depending on if you have a short term or long term view of a situation could completely change whether an action is considered rational or not, and vice versa, and has absolute nothing to do with any moral framework.
- mdavid626 9mo agoIt’s always funny to me that hating is fine if the person justifies it by some reason, but it’s generally not accepted, when that person doesn’t care about the reason. “Stop the hate”, but of course only if it’s not me hating. Because that hate is valid and justified.
- misiti3780 9mo agolots of jealous nerds in this forum ...