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Not what I was asking about. What should Israel have done in response to Oct 7th? What would be the downstream effects? What should a country do when a neighbo

Not what I was asking about. What should Israel have done in response to Oct 7th? What would be the downstream effects? What should a country do when a neighbor invades and massacres entire towns, live-streaming the violent deaths and rapes for the world to see? What is the correct response to this? You have clearly not thought through the game theory and repercussions of what you are suggesting. Like many college protesters, you would do well to understand the complexity of the mechanics of the real world, and understand that reality ain’t rainbows and butterflies. I have no clue how you drew the Vietnam war protest thing from what I wrote.

watwut 9mo ago
First, genocide is not necessary response. Second, Israel hard right was working on that and moving toward genocide for years.
- solumunus 9mo ago
  So I guess no one is actually going to try and answer the question?
  - disgruntledphd2 9mo ago
    I think that a better response would have been much, much more targeted. Strategically, Israel have put themselves in a much worse position vis a vis the rest of the world (and importantly the US) by the indiscriminate leveling of Gaza. So it would have been much more like a police action than a war. Maybe take lessons (god I can't believe I'm saying this) from how the British responded to the nationalist terrorism/freedom fighters in Northern Ireland?
    - adastra22 9mo ago
      Targeted urban warfare is exactly what happened in Gaza, which had one of the LOWEST civilian death rates for urban warfare in this century. It was 1/4 that rate of the US army in fallujah for example. Talk of “genocide” and “indiscriminate leveling of Gaza” indicates to me that you didn’t really understand the situation and probably get your news from propaganda sources - which, unfortunately, include nearly all media sources in this conflict. Northern Ireland was a gang/rebel group in occupied territory. Hamas is the government of Gaza, and Israel had no boots on the ground on Oct 6th. The situations are not in any way comparable.
      - disgruntledphd2 9mo ago
        > which had one of the LOWEST civilian death rates for urban warfare in this century Can you provide some evidence for this statement? EDIT: removed everything except this statement, as I feel it will lead to less productive conversation.
direwolf20 9mo ago
What should Palestine have done in response to Oct 6th?
- mhb 9mo ago
  Maybe you should be asking what it should have done on September 13, 2000.

watwut 9mo ago

First, genocide is not necessary response. Second, Israel hard right was working on that and moving toward genocide for years.

solumunus 9mo ago
So I guess no one is actually going to try and answer the question?
- disgruntledphd2 9mo ago
  I think that a better response would have been much, much more targeted. Strategically, Israel have put themselves in a much worse position vis a vis the rest of the world (and importantly the US) by the indiscriminate leveling of Gaza. So it would have been much more like a police action than a war. Maybe take lessons (god I can't believe I'm saying this) from how the British responded to the nationalist terrorism/freedom fighters in Northern Ireland?
  - adastra22 9mo ago
    Targeted urban warfare is exactly what happened in Gaza, which had one of the LOWEST civilian death rates for urban warfare in this century. It was 1/4 that rate of the US army in fallujah for example. Talk of “genocide” and “indiscriminate leveling of Gaza” indicates to me that you didn’t really understand the situation and probably get your news from propaganda sources - which, unfortunately, include nearly all media sources in this conflict. Northern Ireland was a gang/rebel group in occupied territory. Hamas is the government of Gaza, and Israel had no boots on the ground on Oct 6th. The situations are not in any way comparable.
    - disgruntledphd2 9mo ago
      > which had one of the LOWEST civilian death rates for urban warfare in this century Can you provide some evidence for this statement? EDIT: removed everything except this statement, as I feel it will lead to less productive conversation.

direwolf20 9mo ago

What should Palestine have done in response to Oct 6th?

mhb 9mo ago
Maybe you should be asking what it should have done on September 13, 2000.