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It's about to get even worse: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/birth-rate-trump-baby-bonus-1.7523545 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/birth-rate-trump-baby-bonus-1...

• throwaway6734 9mo ago
  What's going to get worse? Currently parents get absolutely shafted by the tax system as the tax credits are next to nothing relative to the amount of time, effort, and capital it takes to raise a child. Currently the cost of raising children is privatized while the benefits are socialized.
• ryandrake 9mo ago
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  • ActorNightly 9mo ago
    The entire principle of conservatism is basically underpinned by personal insecurities, in every sector. This is why these people are so easy to exploit.
  • stackskipton 9mo ago
    Part of it is religion/beliefs. However, other part of it is entire economic structure is designed to grow or line must go up. Easiest way to make sure line goes up to have more consumers and since many Western Countries have less consumers, this means entire economic system is going to have a reckoning which those in power don't want.
  • carlosjobim 9mo ago
    Every healthy living being both male and female has had this obsession since sexual reproduction began over thousand million years ago. All of your ancestors during a thousand million years have had this obsession. Are you sure it's not you who are weird?
• cosmic_cheese 9mo ago
  I wonder how many more failed tiny financial band-aids it will take before governments figure out that moving the needle on birth rate requires that deep systemic issues be addressed. The most astute observation I've seen on the topic is that in a capitalistic system in which monetary value is assigned to everything, the value of children is deeply negative and therefore they are not desirable. By having children, most couples are putting their stability, wellbeing, and long-term prospects on the line. The opportunity cost is staggering. If more children is the desired outcome, that tradeoff must cease to exist, and a lousy $2k isn't anything remotely close to that.
  • lotsofpulp 9mo ago
    Get rid of old age benefits and the value will become positive.
    • cosmic_cheese 9mo ago
      That would introduce a new problem of all of those seniors suddenly becoming more dependent on their younger family members, which is exacerbated by kids moving all over the country in search of greener pastures. There's not really a solution that doesn't involve heavy restructuring in one place or another.
      • cucumber3732842 9mo ago
        >That would introduce a new problem of all of those seniors suddenly becoming more dependent on their younger family members, which is exacerbated by kids moving all over the country in search of greener pastures. That's how it always was. It used to be your kids were your retirement safety net. What's different now than 100yr ago is that those working generations also have the state taking a 20-50% cut which used to be available to be sent home to help out mom and dad.
      • jen20 9mo ago
        They could work longer. In the UK, for example, the retirement age was set to 60 for women and 65 for men, when life expectancy was substantially lower than today. On the current trajectory, a large number of "boomers" at death will have only "paid into" the system for half their lives, while extracting most of the economic reward of the last 70 years.
• hamdingers 9mo ago
  Seems about as likely to materialize as every other handout this administration has promised. How's everyone enjoying their tariff rebate checks? Any servicemembers care to share how they spent their warrior dividend?
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