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> Canada's immigration is already quite lop-sided. I don't even understand what "lop-sided" means here. Would you say that Canada's oil and softwood businesse

> Canada's immigration is already quite lop-sided. I don't even understand what "lop-sided" means here. Would you say that Canada's oil and softwood businesses are lop-sided because we produce and export a lot of it? Or that the groceries' market is lop-sided because we don't produce a lot of it and therefore have to import? Canada is an importer of people (not only from India) because it can't produce a lot of people. It is not different from groceries.

franktankbank 9mo ago
Is it typical to consider immigration as a trade similar to apples and oranges?
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 9mo ago
  To politicians and economists humans are fungible.
- deleted 9mo ago
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modo_mario 9mo ago
>because it can't produce a lot of people. So does every country that can't grow it's population indefinitely need to import a ton of people? What is the endgame there? And I thought trade in people as some kind of fungible economic token was out of vogue.
breitling 9mo ago
Why not import from a variety of countries to preserve the social fabric? https://preview.redd.it/in-the-first-three-months-of-2025-canada-saw-104-000-new-v0-ytku6w3vkr3f1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=069b8ba245046ff2b61003523208d95593d6f78b https://preview.redd.it/in-the-first-three-months-of-2025-ca...
- triceratops 9mo ago
  Is India lacking in variety? It has more languages than Europe. Variety isn't a bad idea in and of itself. But you're making the mistake of assuming all the people who live inside a particular nation's boundaries are the same.
  - poncho_romero 9mo ago
    The majority of Indian immigrants to Canada are coming from one state, Punjab, so the benefits of diversity within India is not necessarily reflected in the Indians coming to Canada.
    - triceratops 9mo ago
      Source?
  - theflyinghorse 9mo ago
    India as a whole is diverse. Canada is NOT getting immigrants from all of India but rather from 2 states (mostly one). Please learn about the issue first.
- ryandrake 9mo ago
  What does "preserve the social fabric" mean?
  - debo_ 9mo ago
    It's what the Irish said to us Italians when we were immigrating to Canada in droves.
    - poncho_romero 9mo ago
      It's a much larger drove this time around, to be fair.
  - poncho_romero 9mo ago
FiniteField 9mo ago
>I don't even understand [...] >It is not different from groceries. Do you appreciate that, in the wider historical context, this position is an exceptionally radical one? You seem to not understand how there could even exist a difference of opinion on this, but I'm confident that this outlook of humans as being completely fungible, transactional economic units would appear unthinkable to anyone throughout 99% of human history. Just the suggestion that a nation's population should be restocked by swapping it out with another nation's population would be tantamount to treason any time prior to the revolution of the 1960s.

franktankbank 9mo ago

Is it typical to consider immigration as a trade similar to apples and oranges?

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 9mo ago
To politicians and economists humans are fungible.
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modo_mario 9mo ago

>because it can't produce a lot of people. So does every country that can't grow it's population indefinitely need to import a ton of people? What is the endgame there? And I thought trade in people as some kind of fungible economic token was out of vogue.

breitling 9mo ago

Why not import from a variety of countries to preserve the social fabric? https://preview.redd.it/in-the-first-three-months-of-2025-canada-saw-104-000-new-v0-ytku6w3vkr3f1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=069b8ba245046ff2b61003523208d95593d6f78b https://preview.redd.it/in-the-first-three-months-of-2025-ca...

triceratops 9mo ago
Is India lacking in variety? It has more languages than Europe. Variety isn't a bad idea in and of itself. But you're making the mistake of assuming all the people who live inside a particular nation's boundaries are the same.
- poncho_romero 9mo ago
  The majority of Indian immigrants to Canada are coming from one state, Punjab, so the benefits of diversity within India is not necessarily reflected in the Indians coming to Canada.
  - triceratops 9mo ago
    Source?
- theflyinghorse 9mo ago
  India as a whole is diverse. Canada is NOT getting immigrants from all of India but rather from 2 states (mostly one). Please learn about the issue first.
ryandrake 9mo ago
What does "preserve the social fabric" mean?
- debo_ 9mo ago
  It's what the Irish said to us Italians when we were immigrating to Canada in droves.
  - poncho_romero 9mo ago
    It's a much larger drove this time around, to be fair.
- poncho_romero 9mo ago

FiniteField 9mo ago

>I don't even understand [...] >It is not different from groceries. Do you appreciate that, in the wider historical context, this position is an exceptionally radical one? You seem to not understand how there could even exist a difference of opinion on this, but I'm confident that this outlook of humans as being completely fungible, transactional economic units would appear unthinkable to anyone throughout 99% of human history. Just the suggestion that a nation's population should be restocked by swapping it out with another nation's population would be tantamount to treason any time prior to the revolution of the 1960s.