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> Every single one of the tens of millions of people who have illegally immigrated to the United States over the past few decades is a criminal who can be legal

> Every single one of the tens of millions of people who have illegally immigrated to the United States over the past few decades is a criminal who can be legally deported. There are an estimated 100K illegal immigrants in Minnesota,[1] and about 2M in Texas.[2] With 900K in Florida, 350K in Georgia, 325K in North Carolina, etc. [3] Why doesn't ICE concentrate on fishing where the fish are… but of course that would mean doing stuff in red states. [1] https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/MN https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-... [2] https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/TX https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-... [3] https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-unauthorized-immigra...

Dig1t 9mo ago
Great question, most Trump supporters are extremely unhappy he’s not doing the mass deportations he promised and instead just doing tiny stunts in Minnesota. Basically neither the right nor left are happy with this admin.
- cmorgan31 9mo ago
  Considering the AG demanded the voter rolls for MN to remove ICE it becomes obvious what game is being played. It’s a shame the USA is a terrible place.
  - JuniperMesos 9mo ago
    If it was actually a terrible place the illegal immigrants would leave on their own volition and it wouldn't be necessary to have federal police find them and forcibly arrest and deport them.
    - tombert 9mo ago
      I think that's a bit reductive. There are plenty of economic, political, or familial reasons for not leaving. Many people are trying to evade oppressive regimes where their prospects might literally mean death. The US can still be "terrible" while still not being quite as dangerous as that. I mean, this kind of reads victim-blamey; hyperbolic example, when a person stays with an abusive partner for much longer than they should, does that imply that that relationship isn't terrible?
    - cthalupa 9mo ago
      The US can be both a terrible place and yet also better than other places that are more terrible. I would like to hold my country to higher standards than "Eh, it's better than oppressive regimes where people get murdered for political dissent." Unfortunately, the events we're seeing in MN may show that we're in danger of even that standard being too high for us.
jayGlow 9mo ago
they are arresting and deporting people in Texas I'm under the assumption that they can perform more than one task at a time. https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-houston-arrests-more-3500-criminal-illegal-aliens-child-predators-and-murderers https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-houston-arrests-more-3...
- tombert 9mo ago
  Yeah, true, they're just murdering civilians in the blue states.
  - pandaman 9mo ago
    Can't talk for all Red states, but in Austin, TX the city police is arresting even people who try to interfere with traffic, even more so people who interfere with federal agents so there is a little chance someone reads reddit, figures there is nothing going to happen if he or she lays hands on a fed and get lit. Now, I've seen quite a few of videos from Minneapolis and there were literally 0 MPD officers in any of those. I wonder where is the police in the blue states, definitely not on the streets where riots are going on.
    - tombert 9mo ago
      Oh, well if you saw like four videos on YouTube or TikTok I guess that's sufficient evidence for me.
      - pandaman 9mo ago
        Please go ahead and present your evidence, show where is the police interacting with the "protesters" in Minneapolis.
        tombert 9mo ago
        I don't have a Tiktok account so I don't really have a means to search that, and it's tough to find stuff on YouTube because the recent murder is (understandably) hogging the headlines and the top searches, and I cannot be bothered doing more than a cursory search considering I don't really think you're arguing in good faith anyway. Regardless, I don't really think this is the slam dunk that you seem to think it is. You "not seeing MPD interact with protestors" is hardly strong evidence of anything. But let's pretend you're right, MPD is completely absent, it doesn't forgive anything ICE has done, actually. It is disingenuous to act like it does.
JuniperMesos 9mo ago
ICE officials are pretty consistently saying that they do more visible immigration enforcement in places where the local police are forbidden by local or state law from giving information about people they arrest to ICE, compared to places where the local police do this happily. Legally-forbidding local police from cooperating with federal immigration enforcement is a prototypically blue-state policy that red states do not generally do. The visible disruptive protests against ICE activity are also the sort of thing that you'd expect the sorts of voters that make a blue state blue to do, so when ICE does arrest illegal immigrants in red states, there's much fewer people who are inclined to protest it and therefore less publicity in general.

Dig1t 9mo ago

Great question, most Trump supporters are extremely unhappy he’s not doing the mass deportations he promised and instead just doing tiny stunts in Minnesota. Basically neither the right nor left are happy with this admin.

cmorgan31 9mo ago
Considering the AG demanded the voter rolls for MN to remove ICE it becomes obvious what game is being played. It’s a shame the USA is a terrible place.
- JuniperMesos 9mo ago
  If it was actually a terrible place the illegal immigrants would leave on their own volition and it wouldn't be necessary to have federal police find them and forcibly arrest and deport them.
  - tombert 9mo ago
    I think that's a bit reductive. There are plenty of economic, political, or familial reasons for not leaving. Many people are trying to evade oppressive regimes where their prospects might literally mean death. The US can still be "terrible" while still not being quite as dangerous as that. I mean, this kind of reads victim-blamey; hyperbolic example, when a person stays with an abusive partner for much longer than they should, does that imply that that relationship isn't terrible?
  - cthalupa 9mo ago
    The US can be both a terrible place and yet also better than other places that are more terrible. I would like to hold my country to higher standards than "Eh, it's better than oppressive regimes where people get murdered for political dissent." Unfortunately, the events we're seeing in MN may show that we're in danger of even that standard being too high for us.

jayGlow 9mo ago

they are arresting and deporting people in Texas I'm under the assumption that they can perform more than one task at a time. https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-houston-arrests-more-3500-criminal-illegal-aliens-child-predators-and-murderers https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-houston-arrests-more-3...

tombert 9mo ago
Yeah, true, they're just murdering civilians in the blue states.
- pandaman 9mo ago
  Can't talk for all Red states, but in Austin, TX the city police is arresting even people who try to interfere with traffic, even more so people who interfere with federal agents so there is a little chance someone reads reddit, figures there is nothing going to happen if he or she lays hands on a fed and get lit. Now, I've seen quite a few of videos from Minneapolis and there were literally 0 MPD officers in any of those. I wonder where is the police in the blue states, definitely not on the streets where riots are going on.
  - tombert 9mo ago
    Oh, well if you saw like four videos on YouTube or TikTok I guess that's sufficient evidence for me.
    - pandaman 9mo ago
      Please go ahead and present your evidence, show where is the police interacting with the "protesters" in Minneapolis.
      - tombert 9mo ago
        I don't have a Tiktok account so I don't really have a means to search that, and it's tough to find stuff on YouTube because the recent murder is (understandably) hogging the headlines and the top searches, and I cannot be bothered doing more than a cursory search considering I don't really think you're arguing in good faith anyway. Regardless, I don't really think this is the slam dunk that you seem to think it is. You "not seeing MPD interact with protestors" is hardly strong evidence of anything. But let's pretend you're right, MPD is completely absent, it doesn't forgive anything ICE has done, actually. It is disingenuous to act like it does.

JuniperMesos 9mo ago

ICE officials are pretty consistently saying that they do more visible immigration enforcement in places where the local police are forbidden by local or state law from giving information about people they arrest to ICE, compared to places where the local police do this happily. Legally-forbidding local police from cooperating with federal immigration enforcement is a prototypically blue-state policy that red states do not generally do. The visible disruptive protests against ICE activity are also the sort of thing that you'd expect the sorts of voters that make a blue state blue to do, so when ICE does arrest illegal immigrants in red states, there's much fewer people who are inclined to protest it and therefore less publicity in general.