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Good idea, Netherlands should follow suit. The fed is being dismantled in front of our eyes. Militia's shoot US citizens for documenting their illegal behavio
by BartjeD 8mo ago
Good idea, Netherlands should follow suit.
The fed is being dismantled in front of our eyes.
Militia's shoot US citizens for documenting their illegal behavior.
Insane
- cbeach 8mo ago[flagged]
- watwut 8mo agoThey just murdered a guy who was not obstructing them. They kidnap, beat and then throw away citizens and legal migrants.
- indubioprorubik 8mo ago[flagged]
- saubeidl 8mo agoSo, thought crime? I thought right wingers were all about individual freedoms, now all of a sudden you want to dictate the values of your fellow citizens?
- SilverElfin 8mo agoNo one is required to integrate. You can think freely and be who you want. First amendment.
- indubioprorubik 8mo ago[flagged]
- lurking_swe 8mo agoi just replied and then saw the comment was flagged LOL. For those that missed it the flagged comment said something stupid like “don’t obstruct ICE and you’ll be fine.” They are misinformed i’m afraid. This is the BEST case scenario: https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-immigration-us-citizen-detained-hmong-d009590a491c0c8243ef21ef24db7182 https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-immigration-us-citizen-... worst case scenario is you’re sent to another country, or killed.
- exe34 8mo agoI'd like them to explain, step by step, how holding a camera to document what ice is doing, can be considered obstruction. Are they doing illegal things that are obstructed by publicly available documentation?
- exe34 8mo agoWhat scares me the most isn't that we got into this situation, but that so many people think it's going well.
- indubioprorubik 8mo agoThe majority voted for this- this is the will of the people.
- saubeidl 8mo agoThe majority did not. A third did.
- tock 8mo agoIt was the second highest voter turnout in US history.
- saubeidl 8mo agoWhich speaks to the weakness of US democracy. Nonetheless, only a third of the voting population voted for this.
- tock 8mo agoNot really. 1/3rd voted for this and 1/3rd were ok with either candidate. Sometimes people democratically vote for bad shit.
- saubeidl 8mo agoNot caring which option wins is not the same as voting for something.
- krapp 8mo agoChoosing not to vote is implicitly voting for the status quo, whatever it happens to be. It's accepting fate. If voters saw the first Trump term and knew about Project 2025 (which was public and publicly discussed) and didn't care enough to vote against the implementation of what was happening right under their noses then that isn't much different than voting for him. If anything it's worse. At least the right is actively evil. At least voting third party, futile as it is, is making a statement. Seeing Trump's movement gain and consolidate power, listening to their beliefs, seeing the preparation of political infrastructure, January 6th, stacking the Supreme Court, the normalization of white supremacy, and knowing fascism could be a vote away and not giving a damn shows a depth of poisonous cynicism and cowardice that should brand a person for life. That will brand our entire society for a generation.
- SilverElfin 8mo agoYep, Pretti was a citizen. As was the Hmong person they detained in his underwear. Most of the people they detain aren’t criminals. > People are obstructing armed immigration enforcement and expecting to come away unscathed. It’s scary that people actually think like this. These types of unprincipled excuses for lawlessness and murder are how authoritarians get into power. It might have been more excusable in the past but not today when the videos show the murder for the whole world to see.
- xdennis 8mo ago> They just murdered a guy who was not obstructing them. They shouldn't have shot him since he was not being violent. But he did obstruct: he was standing in middle of the street, acting like a traffic cop. When border patrol tried to arrest a woman, he got between them and the woman. That is obstruction! After that they shot him without any reason.
- indubioprorubik 8mo ago[flagged]
- Hamuko 8mo ago>Eh, the guy was armed at a protest. I thought that was a constitutional right?
- Terr_ 8mo agoYeah, and--assuming Pretti was carrying at all--he did everything perfectly, never brandishing or even touching it. FFS, I'd wager the ICE thugs didn't even think Alex had a weapon at all, not until they had already (A) shoved him (B) pepper-sprayed his face and (C) yanked him from the other disabled protester he was trying to shield and (D) threw the blinded Alex to the ground on his knees with both hands down on the pavement. ____________ To be more specific, since there are different angles out there, I'm referring to these [0][1], where one of the ICE agents can be seen removing something from Alex's belt. Then, almost immediately, the adjacent ICE agent draws and shoots the blinded, restrained, and unarmed Alex Pretti, putting ~4 bullets into his back from behind. [0] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/witness-videos-cbp-killing-minnesota-man-appear-counter-trump-administ-rcna255791 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/witness-videos-cbp-kill... -- At 1:01, grey-hat-jacket pulls something from Alex's exposed waist with his right hand. He swings his his arm away towards the road (see other footage) while black-hat-green-sleeves pulls his own sidearm and shoots. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsBIPjUq2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsBIPjUq2k -- At 1:31, you can see grey-hat-jacket's right-hand swinging into the road, holding what looks like a weapon.
- SilverElfin 8mo agoIt is. The MAGA subset of the right suddenly doesn’t care about the second amendment. I guess that should be expected after they’ve shown they don’t care about the first (people recording ICE) or fourth (warrantless raids) amendments too.
- saubeidl 8mo agoYou know what else was law enforcement? Yes, law enforcement by a democratically elected president? The Gestapo. Sometimes the law and its enforcers are the bad guys. Usually around the point where they abduct, brutalize and murder with impunity
- N19PEDL2 8mo agoItaly should do it as well.
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- oefrha 8mo agoGood idea, but don’t be surprised when threatened with 100% tariffs. Canada got that threat (again? honestly lost track) just yesterday.
- jenadine 8mo agoThere is already arbitrary tariff. At this point, it is better to trade with other countries instead of chasing the US. Let the American citizen pay their tariff, their loss.
- a_ba 8mo agoI wouldn’t worry too much about those threats. This administration is so erratic that you may see those same threats made against you for any other reason down the line even if you keep it put.
- xdennis 8mo agoThe Dutch absolutely should NOT follow suit. You guys stole our (Romanian) golden helmet when we sent it to a museum in the Netherlands[1] because you don't have any armed guards at museums. Maybe send your gold to a country that actually protects priceless things, like the UK. [1]: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/art-thieves-blew-up-a-dutch-museums-door-to-steal-an-ancient-golden-helmet-from-romania-180985915/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/art-thieves-blew-u...
- fmajid 8mo agoThe UK under Gordon Brown foolishly sold off most of its gold reserves. If they had kept thrm, they would be worth £40B more today, or 10 times what it was sold for.
- e40 8mo agoMilitia? No, the government! ICE is an official government agency.
- lucyjojo 8mo agoi mean... militia noun 1. a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency
- e40 8mo ago"civilians trained as soldiers but not part of the regular army" I don't know if you're from the US, but here, militia applies solely to civilian groups and not government ones.
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