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It's a strange, sort of fatalistic cognitive dissonance to believe that parents have the right to risk their children's lives by exposing them to preventable de

It's a strange, sort of fatalistic cognitive dissonance to believe that parents have the right to risk their children's lives by exposing them to preventable deadly diseases while at same time making it illegal for women to terminate pregnancies.

etchalon 9mo ago
It's not too strange. It's just selfish preference. "I don't want my kids to get vaccinated and I don't want your daughter to have sex."
kibwen 9mo ago
Cognitive dissonance via hypocrisy and absurdity is deliberately embraced by fascist regimes, because it's a form of proof that the speaker cares more about loyalty to the state than about rational independent thought.
graemep 9mo ago
The main argument for allowing abortion is that people have a right to do what they want with their bodies. The opposing argument is that this does not extend to a baby's body. I do not see how either side can then say the government has a right to force people to do something to their bodies. Vaccines are not mandatory in any country I know but most people have them bar hippies and conspiracy theorists. I think its stupid not to have (most, at least) childhood vaccines but people should be free to be stupid.
- SpicyLemonZest 9mo ago
  I really don't understand why facile abortion analogies are so popular in vaccine discussions. In the worst case pregnancy is orders of magnitude riskier than vaccination, and the typical pregnancy is more impactful than all but the worst vaccine side effects. There's no useful comparison to be drawn.
  - graemep 9mo ago
    Because its a subject people feel strongly about so they like dragging it into everything. You see it with all sorts of topics. For example, almost anything to do with the UK will result in someone going on about Brexit. The current US president is mentioned at the slightest excuse. Any kind of polarising issue, really.

etchalon 9mo ago

It's not too strange. It's just selfish preference. "I don't want my kids to get vaccinated and I don't want your daughter to have sex."

kibwen 9mo ago

Cognitive dissonance via hypocrisy and absurdity is deliberately embraced by fascist regimes, because it's a form of proof that the speaker cares more about loyalty to the state than about rational independent thought.

graemep 9mo ago

The main argument for allowing abortion is that people have a right to do what they want with their bodies. The opposing argument is that this does not extend to a baby's body. I do not see how either side can then say the government has a right to force people to do something to their bodies. Vaccines are not mandatory in any country I know but most people have them bar hippies and conspiracy theorists. I think its stupid not to have (most, at least) childhood vaccines but people should be free to be stupid.

SpicyLemonZest 9mo ago
I really don't understand why facile abortion analogies are so popular in vaccine discussions. In the worst case pregnancy is orders of magnitude riskier than vaccination, and the typical pregnancy is more impactful than all but the worst vaccine side effects. There's no useful comparison to be drawn.
- graemep 9mo ago
  Because its a subject people feel strongly about so they like dragging it into everything. You see it with all sorts of topics. For example, almost anything to do with the UK will result in someone going on about Brexit. The current US president is mentioned at the slightest excuse. Any kind of polarising issue, really.