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Aren't we all tired by this anti-AI stuff? Use it if you want to, don't use it if you don't want to, I just don't really want to hear about your personal opinio

by stavros 10mo ago

Aren't we all tired by this anti-AI stuff? Use it if you want to, don't use it if you don't want to, I just don't really want to hear about your personal opinion on it any more.

blurbleblurble 10mo ago
Very tired
robin_reala 10mo ago
You deliberately read an article entitled “You can’t pay me to prompt” then complained about having to hear about anti-AI blog posts?
- SecretDreams 10mo ago
  They said they're tired of anti-AI commentary, not that they're tired of complaining about anti-AI commentary!
  - spooneybarger 10mo ago
    Well played sir. Well played
jrjeksjd8d 10mo ago
My CEO sent a company-wide email this week saying "AI use is mandatory for all developers". Until this kind of mandatory bullshit stops I'm happy to see other people fighting the good fight and publicly saying that they want to keep doing a job they actually enjoy. Many of my coworkers have embraced AI coding and the quality of our product has suffered for it. They deliver bad, hard-to-support software that technically checks some boxes and then rush on to produce more slop. It feels like a regression to the days of measuring LOC as a proxy for productivity.
- gedy 10mo ago
  I'm seeing the top-down AI usage pushed from the same types of leaders and companies who love to outsource and are happy with shit shovelled over the wall then devs firefight production bugs forever. It's just a good reminder they don't care a bit about quality.
- em-bee 10mo ago
  what's your exit strategy? if i got a letter like that i'd either be out switching jobs at the first opportunity, or i'd ignore it until i get fired for refusing to comply, while hoping that disaster strikes before that happens, or maybe just hoping that noone notices.
- tags2k 10mo ago
  It seems that poor tech leadership are fearing that they won't be able to move onto their next job if they don't put "implemented AI efficiencies" on their CV now. It's up to us grunts to work out how to actually make it not suck.
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rootnod3 10mo ago
Aren't we all tired by this pro-AI stuff? Use it if you wanna ruin the planet. Don't use it if you care about maintaining skill. I just don't really wanna hear about your pro-AI peddling anymore.
- NitpickLawyer 10mo ago
  Eh, like everything on the Internet, the anti crowd is becoming more obnoxious than the pro crowd ever was. It has become an identity thing, more than a technical thing, and it always sucks when it devolves into that.
  - kranner 10mo ago
    It is still a technical thing though. AI generated code is outright buggy when it’s not mediocre but the pro AI crowd is pretending you can guardrail and test suite your way to good generated code. As if painting a picture in negative space is somehow less work than painting it directly. And that’s when you know all the requirements (the picture) upfront.
  - sodapopcan 10mo ago
    > Eh, like everything on the Internet, the anti crowd is becoming more obnoxious than the pro crowd ever was. In your highly objective opinion, of course.
  - rootnod3 10mo ago
    Is wasting massive fucktons of water and electricity an identity thing? Is it identity that RAM now costs 10x what it used to?
    - lostmsu 10mo ago
      What are you gonna spend these water and electricity in US on instead?
      - notpachet 10mo ago
arianvanp 10mo ago
Nah im tired about AI dominating 90% of the posts and the slop machine. People who use AI can't shut up about it.
- seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
  Definitely people who hate AI can’t shut up about it. 90% if the comments on HN seem to just be people hating on AI. Everyone else is just busy using it to get work done.
  - sho_hn 10mo ago
    Honestly, it feels differently to me. I have the distinct impression that the pro-AI side is much more desperate to normalize usage and have AI-based achievements recognized as equivalent, rooted in fears of inadequacy. It's about hoping everyone stops with the "you didn't make that, the AI did".
    - seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
      “One side has the impression and/or believes that the other side is more vocal and less sincere” is as old humanity and hasn’t changed with AI.
  - computerthings 10mo ago
    [dead]
- lostmsu 10mo ago
  There's a good reason for that. Because other AI users are listening. This is like choosing a car or a work tool, except they meaningfully progress every 6 months (more often if you restrict yourself to local). So you need to get an impression on what to use next before switching, unless you want to review every single one yourself. There are entire sites dedicated to car reviews. This is a hackers website. Makes sense that the most evolving tool for the job is most discussed. What else is really changing? CSS added a couple new properties? C++ new standard still didn't add modules (but the year changed!)?
monsieurbanana 10mo ago
I do hope you comment the same thing on the pro-AI articles from people trying to sell you a product. Internet is now infested by those, and without these articles you might think everybody has collectively lost their mind and still think we will get replaced in the next 6 months. I use AI, what I'm tired of is shills and post-apocalyptic prophets
- stavros 10mo ago
  "Look at how I use this cool new technology" tends to be much more interesting to me than "this new technology has changed my job and I refuse to use it because I'm afraid".
  - spooneybarger 10mo ago
    That's an exceedingly unkind summation of the piece in question.
    - stavros 10mo ago
      I wasn't talking about the piece in question, which just says "BTW I don't use AI".
  - bakugo 10mo ago
    > this new technology has changed my job and I refuse to use it because I'm afraid You're confusing fear with disgust. Nobody is afraid of your slop, we're disgusted by it. You're making a huge sloppy mess everywhere you go and then leaving it for the rest of us to clean up, all while acting like we should be thankful for your contribution.
  - kfreds 10mo ago
    Obviously it’s far more nuanced than that. I’d say there are several categories where a reasonable person could have reservations (or not) about LLMs: Copyright issues (related to training data and inference), openness (OSS, model parameters, training data), sovereignty (geopolitically, individually), privacy, deskilling, manipulation (with or without human intent), AGI doom. I have a list but not in front of me right now.
Leynos 10mo ago
I find some of it interesting. I'm very interested in understanding why others' experience of using genAI is so vastly different to my own. (For me it's been as transformational a change as discovering I could do my high school homework on a word processor in the 90s when what I suspect was undiagnosed dyspraxia made writing large volumes of text by hand very painful). I'm also interested in understanding if the envisaged transformation of developers into orchestrators, supervisors, tastemakers and curators is realistic, desirable or possible. And if that is even the correct mental model.
- stavros 10mo ago
  Sure, me too, but most discourse I've seen is just knee-jerk reaction of the form "AI is entirely useless", which is just basically noise.
  - bee_rider 10mo ago
    I don’t like “AI is useless” as an argument because * it is basically invalidated by somebody saying “well I find it useful” * it is easy to believe it’s on a path toward usefulness OTOH it is worth keeping in mind that we haven’t seen what a profitable AI company looks like. If nothing else this technology has massive potential for enshittification…
    - stavros 10mo ago
      I agree with you entirely. On the other hand, I love that nobody will ever be able to take the current open models away from us.
nuancebydefault 10mo ago
We're in this in-between phase where we gradually all start to use AI. There is no escaping.
- kranner 10mo ago
  Resistance is futile, You will be assimilated? Is it so hard to understand why people are reacting against this argument?
  - nuancebydefault 10mo ago
    In fact you are right, there is no escape from this assimilation, at least I do not see how. And the outcome might be worse than becoming the Borg. Nobody can tell right now. There's resistance but on the other hand there was resistance against light bulbs, trains with engines, automatic press, phones, television, a global internet,...
    - kranner 10mo ago
      > There's resistance but on the other hand there was resistance against light bulbs, trains with engines, automatic press, phones, television, a global internet,... There was also resistance against fascism, slavery, Ponzi schemes, the privatisation of public goods, the devaluation of the Humanities, ...
      - nuancebydefault 10mo ago
        I don't see fascism, slavery etc as part of progress, it is more of a political/ethical choice. AI is a next step in human progress and that is why i see its use as inevitable. Of course there still need to be checks and balances, just like with free trade, free speech, capitalism, private property etc to keep things fair and balanced. But it is never perfect.
rubyfan 10mo ago
I’m actually more sick of hearing about AI like literally all the time in all forms of media. I’m also sick of seeing AI created content which is so obviously low quality and often unchecked and just thrown out into the world. Also when I hear another human suggest using AI for ____, my perception of them is that they are an unserious person. So in my opinion AI has had a net negative effect on the world so far. Reading through this persons AI policy resonates with me. It tells me they are a thoughtful individual who cares about their work and the broader implications of using AI.
sodapopcan 10mo ago
I'm not, I'm tired of hearing about it. If someone is forcing you to read these articles then that sounds like you are in a really shitty situation. Blink twice if you need help.
bossyTeacher 10mo ago
> Aren't we all tired by this anti-AI stuff? It's fine to be tired of this. What is not fine is pretending your beliefs/feelings represent everybody else's. No one forcing you to read the article. He is as free to write what he wants as you are to complain about it. Balanced. Like all things should be.
bakugo 10mo ago
> I just don't really want to hear about your personal opinion on it any more. And I don't want to hear about how the world of software engineering has been revolutionized because you always hated programming with a passion, but can now instead pay $200 to have Claude bring your groundbreaking B2B SaaS Todo app idea to life, yet that's basically all I hear about in any tech discussion space. You should ask your AI assistant to explain to you why people would go out of their way to take a stand against this.
- lostmsu 10mo ago
  You should ask an AI why this impression is very wrong.
orleyhuxwell 10mo ago
I am not tired by this anti-AI stuff. As a person who uses it in very limited capacity, also as an ML/computer vision developer and researcher with 10 years of commercial experience with it, I want much more anti AI stuff. Low quality (low precision) news, code, marketing, diagnosis, articles, books, food, entertainment (shorts, tik-tok), engineering is in my opinion the biggest problem in XXI century so far. Low quality AI usage decisions, low quality AI marketing, retraining, placement, investments are accelerating the worst trends even more. It's like Soviet nuclear trains - just because nuclear is powerful and real it doesn't mean most of it's applications made any sense. So as a pro-AI person and AI-builder in general, I want more anti-AI-slop content, more pro-discipline opinions.
- seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
  Both sides are against slop, what we are arguing about is basically the position that “AI can be used for useful things” vs the “all AI is slop” positions, the latter being based on hasty generalization fallacies (some AI is slop so all AI is slop).
  - orleyhuxwell 10mo ago
    Sorry, but I don't think so. I think without AI the effort of producing slop code or art that sort of looks like a real thing on the first glance is let's say 5% of the effort needed for the real thing that actually works flawlessly. LLMs and diffusion models bring it down to 0.5%. They are also really good at faking comprehension and make recognizing real experise from phoney cosplayers harder for busy managers, officials, execs, politicians etc. So while AI CAN be used for useful things, it very rarely is and it requires more discipline than most people are willing to invest. Also, the way AI is trained on stolen and random low quality content is deeply disturbing. So yeah, while I'd like anti-AI rants to be more precise and nuanced, in general AI in 2026 is mostly a missuse of a technology with great potential.
    - seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
      Both sides are against slop made by AI, not that bit sides can make slop, which is true but irrelevant. Still so many misconceptions about AI on HN, but I guess it’s just how techies are these days.
jchw 10mo ago
> Aren't we all tired of this anti-AI stuff? Let's do a quick analysis of the amount of money put forth to push AI: > OpenAI has raised a total of $57.9B over 9 funding rounds > Groq has raised a total of $1.75 billion as of September, 2025 Well, we could go on, but I think that's probably a good enough start. I looked into it, but I wasn't able to find information on funding rounds that David Bushell had undergone for his anti-AI agenda. So I would assume that he didn't get paid for it, so I guess it's about $0. Meanwhile: - My mobile phone keyboard has "AI" - Gmail has "AI". Google docs has "AI". At one point every app was becoming a chat app, then a TikTok clone. Now every app is a ChatGPT or Gemini frontend. - I'm using a fork of Firefox that removes most of the junk, and there's still some "AI" in the form of Link Preview summaries. - Windows has "AI". Notepad has "AI". MS Paint has "AI". - GitHub stuck an AI button in place of where the notifications button was, then, presumably after being called every single slur imaginable about 50000 times per day, moved it thirty or so pixels over and added about six more AI buttons to the UI. They have a mildly useful AI code review feature, but it's surprisingly half-baked considering how heavily it is marketed. And I'm not even talking about the actual models being limited, the integration itself is lame. I still consider it mildly useful for catching typos, but that is not with several billion dollars of investment. - Sometimes when I log into Hacker News, more than half of the posts are about AI. Sometimes you get bored of it, so you start trying to look at entries that are not overtly about AI, but find that most of those are actually also about AI, and if not specifically about AI, goes on a 20 minute tangent about AI at some point. - Every day every chat every TV program every person online has been talking about AI this AI that for literally the past couple of years. Literally. - I find a new open source project. Looks good at first. Start to get excited. Dig deeper, things start to look "off". It's not as mature or finished as it looks. The README has a "Directory Structure" listing for some odd reason. There's a diagram of the architecture in a fixed width font, but the whitespace is misaligned on some lines. There's comments in the code that reference things like "but the user requested..." as if, the code wasn't written by the user. Because it wasn't, and worse, it wasn't read by them either. They posted it as if they wrote it making no mention at all that it was prompts they didn't read, wasting everyone's time with half-baked crapware. And you're tired of anti-AI sentiment? Well God damn, allow me to Stable Diffusion generate the world's smallest violin and synthesize a song to play on it using OpenAI Jukebox. I'm not really strictly against AI entirely, but it is the most overhyped technology in human history.
dvfjsdhgfv 10mo ago
Frankly, I never understand this usage of "we". Who is "we"? An honest post would be "I'm tired of this anti-AI stuff". (And I feel you as I'm as bored with "look what my claude produced" posts.)
OptionOfT 10mo ago
No, I'm tired of AI being pushed as this amazing way to make everybody go 100% faster, while being able to lay off 90% of the people. And for some reason the CxO suite and upper management has completely drunk the cool-aid. In the past new technology was adopted sparingly, to figure out whether the juice was worth the squeeze. However with AI it feels like a lot of places are (trying to go|going) all in, both in their work, and integrating it into the products, regardless of whether it makes sense. But most importantly, I think pushback is needed because if AI succeeds in the way it is currently advertised and sold, it's a lot more people than 'just' the Software Engineers that are going to lose their jobs. Which is great for all those companies who currently have a lot less people on payroll. But on the other hand, a lot of the money spent on these companies is discretionary spending. Guess what's the first thing to be cut when you lose your job?
archagon 10mo ago
Maybe they should stop trying to gavage us with it, then.

by stavros 10mo ago

Aren't we all tired by this anti-AI stuff? Use it if you want to, don't use it if you don't want to, I just don't really want to hear about your personal opinion on it any more.

blurbleblurble 10mo ago

Very tired

robin_reala 10mo ago

You deliberately read an article entitled “You can’t pay me to prompt” then complained about having to hear about anti-AI blog posts?

SecretDreams 10mo ago
They said they're tired of anti-AI commentary, not that they're tired of complaining about anti-AI commentary!
- spooneybarger 10mo ago
  Well played sir. Well played

jrjeksjd8d 10mo ago

My CEO sent a company-wide email this week saying "AI use is mandatory for all developers". Until this kind of mandatory bullshit stops I'm happy to see other people fighting the good fight and publicly saying that they want to keep doing a job they actually enjoy. Many of my coworkers have embraced AI coding and the quality of our product has suffered for it. They deliver bad, hard-to-support software that technically checks some boxes and then rush on to produce more slop. It feels like a regression to the days of measuring LOC as a proxy for productivity.

gedy 10mo ago
I'm seeing the top-down AI usage pushed from the same types of leaders and companies who love to outsource and are happy with shit shovelled over the wall then devs firefight production bugs forever. It's just a good reminder they don't care a bit about quality.
em-bee 10mo ago
what's your exit strategy? if i got a letter like that i'd either be out switching jobs at the first opportunity, or i'd ignore it until i get fired for refusing to comply, while hoping that disaster strikes before that happens, or maybe just hoping that noone notices.
tags2k 10mo ago
It seems that poor tech leadership are fearing that they won't be able to move onto their next job if they don't put "implemented AI efficiencies" on their CV now. It's up to us grunts to work out how to actually make it not suck.

deleted 10mo ago

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rootnod3 10mo ago

Aren't we all tired by this pro-AI stuff? Use it if you wanna ruin the planet. Don't use it if you care about maintaining skill. I just don't really wanna hear about your pro-AI peddling anymore.

NitpickLawyer 10mo ago
Eh, like everything on the Internet, the anti crowd is becoming more obnoxious than the pro crowd ever was. It has become an identity thing, more than a technical thing, and it always sucks when it devolves into that.
- kranner 10mo ago
  It is still a technical thing though. AI generated code is outright buggy when it’s not mediocre but the pro AI crowd is pretending you can guardrail and test suite your way to good generated code. As if painting a picture in negative space is somehow less work than painting it directly. And that’s when you know all the requirements (the picture) upfront.
- sodapopcan 10mo ago
  > Eh, like everything on the Internet, the anti crowd is becoming more obnoxious than the pro crowd ever was. In your highly objective opinion, of course.
- rootnod3 10mo ago
  Is wasting massive fucktons of water and electricity an identity thing? Is it identity that RAM now costs 10x what it used to?
  - lostmsu 10mo ago
    What are you gonna spend these water and electricity in US on instead?
    - notpachet 10mo ago

arianvanp 10mo ago

Nah im tired about AI dominating 90% of the posts and the slop machine. People who use AI can't shut up about it.

seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
Definitely people who hate AI can’t shut up about it. 90% if the comments on HN seem to just be people hating on AI. Everyone else is just busy using it to get work done.
- sho_hn 10mo ago
  Honestly, it feels differently to me. I have the distinct impression that the pro-AI side is much more desperate to normalize usage and have AI-based achievements recognized as equivalent, rooted in fears of inadequacy. It's about hoping everyone stops with the "you didn't make that, the AI did".
  - seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
    “One side has the impression and/or believes that the other side is more vocal and less sincere” is as old humanity and hasn’t changed with AI.
- computerthings 10mo ago
  [dead]
lostmsu 10mo ago
There's a good reason for that. Because other AI users are listening. This is like choosing a car or a work tool, except they meaningfully progress every 6 months (more often if you restrict yourself to local). So you need to get an impression on what to use next before switching, unless you want to review every single one yourself. There are entire sites dedicated to car reviews. This is a hackers website. Makes sense that the most evolving tool for the job is most discussed. What else is really changing? CSS added a couple new properties? C++ new standard still didn't add modules (but the year changed!)?

monsieurbanana 10mo ago

I do hope you comment the same thing on the pro-AI articles from people trying to sell you a product. Internet is now infested by those, and without these articles you might think everybody has collectively lost their mind and still think we will get replaced in the next 6 months. I use AI, what I'm tired of is shills and post-apocalyptic prophets

stavros 10mo ago
"Look at how I use this cool new technology" tends to be much more interesting to me than "this new technology has changed my job and I refuse to use it because I'm afraid".
- spooneybarger 10mo ago
  That's an exceedingly unkind summation of the piece in question.
  - stavros 10mo ago
    I wasn't talking about the piece in question, which just says "BTW I don't use AI".
- bakugo 10mo ago
  > this new technology has changed my job and I refuse to use it because I'm afraid You're confusing fear with disgust. Nobody is afraid of your slop, we're disgusted by it. You're making a huge sloppy mess everywhere you go and then leaving it for the rest of us to clean up, all while acting like we should be thankful for your contribution.
- kfreds 10mo ago
  Obviously it’s far more nuanced than that. I’d say there are several categories where a reasonable person could have reservations (or not) about LLMs: Copyright issues (related to training data and inference), openness (OSS, model parameters, training data), sovereignty (geopolitically, individually), privacy, deskilling, manipulation (with or without human intent), AGI doom. I have a list but not in front of me right now.

Leynos 10mo ago

I find some of it interesting. I'm very interested in understanding why others' experience of using genAI is so vastly different to my own. (For me it's been as transformational a change as discovering I could do my high school homework on a word processor in the 90s when what I suspect was undiagnosed dyspraxia made writing large volumes of text by hand very painful). I'm also interested in understanding if the envisaged transformation of developers into orchestrators, supervisors, tastemakers and curators is realistic, desirable or possible. And if that is even the correct mental model.

stavros 10mo ago
Sure, me too, but most discourse I've seen is just knee-jerk reaction of the form "AI is entirely useless", which is just basically noise.
- bee_rider 10mo ago
  I don’t like “AI is useless” as an argument because * it is basically invalidated by somebody saying “well I find it useful” * it is easy to believe it’s on a path toward usefulness OTOH it is worth keeping in mind that we haven’t seen what a profitable AI company looks like. If nothing else this technology has massive potential for enshittification…
  - stavros 10mo ago
    I agree with you entirely. On the other hand, I love that nobody will ever be able to take the current open models away from us.

nuancebydefault 10mo ago

We're in this in-between phase where we gradually all start to use AI. There is no escaping.

kranner 10mo ago
Resistance is futile, You will be assimilated? Is it so hard to understand why people are reacting against this argument?
- nuancebydefault 10mo ago
  In fact you are right, there is no escape from this assimilation, at least I do not see how. And the outcome might be worse than becoming the Borg. Nobody can tell right now. There's resistance but on the other hand there was resistance against light bulbs, trains with engines, automatic press, phones, television, a global internet,...
  - kranner 10mo ago
    > There's resistance but on the other hand there was resistance against light bulbs, trains with engines, automatic press, phones, television, a global internet,... There was also resistance against fascism, slavery, Ponzi schemes, the privatisation of public goods, the devaluation of the Humanities, ...
    - nuancebydefault 10mo ago
      I don't see fascism, slavery etc as part of progress, it is more of a political/ethical choice. AI is a next step in human progress and that is why i see its use as inevitable. Of course there still need to be checks and balances, just like with free trade, free speech, capitalism, private property etc to keep things fair and balanced. But it is never perfect.

rubyfan 10mo ago

I’m actually more sick of hearing about AI like literally all the time in all forms of media. I’m also sick of seeing AI created content which is so obviously low quality and often unchecked and just thrown out into the world. Also when I hear another human suggest using AI for ____, my perception of them is that they are an unserious person. So in my opinion AI has had a net negative effect on the world so far. Reading through this persons AI policy resonates with me. It tells me they are a thoughtful individual who cares about their work and the broader implications of using AI.

sodapopcan 10mo ago

I'm not, I'm tired of hearing about it. If someone is forcing you to read these articles then that sounds like you are in a really shitty situation. Blink twice if you need help.

bossyTeacher 10mo ago

> Aren't we all tired by this anti-AI stuff? It's fine to be tired of this. What is not fine is pretending your beliefs/feelings represent everybody else's. No one forcing you to read the article. He is as free to write what he wants as you are to complain about it. Balanced. Like all things should be.

bakugo 10mo ago

> I just don't really want to hear about your personal opinion on it any more. And I don't want to hear about how the world of software engineering has been revolutionized because you always hated programming with a passion, but can now instead pay $200 to have Claude bring your groundbreaking B2B SaaS Todo app idea to life, yet that's basically all I hear about in any tech discussion space. You should ask your AI assistant to explain to you why people would go out of their way to take a stand against this.

lostmsu 10mo ago
You should ask an AI why this impression is very wrong.

orleyhuxwell 10mo ago

I am not tired by this anti-AI stuff. As a person who uses it in very limited capacity, also as an ML/computer vision developer and researcher with 10 years of commercial experience with it, I want much more anti AI stuff. Low quality (low precision) news, code, marketing, diagnosis, articles, books, food, entertainment (shorts, tik-tok), engineering is in my opinion the biggest problem in XXI century so far. Low quality AI usage decisions, low quality AI marketing, retraining, placement, investments are accelerating the worst trends even more. It's like Soviet nuclear trains - just because nuclear is powerful and real it doesn't mean most of it's applications made any sense. So as a pro-AI person and AI-builder in general, I want more anti-AI-slop content, more pro-discipline opinions.

seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
Both sides are against slop, what we are arguing about is basically the position that “AI can be used for useful things” vs the “all AI is slop” positions, the latter being based on hasty generalization fallacies (some AI is slop so all AI is slop).
- orleyhuxwell 10mo ago
  Sorry, but I don't think so. I think without AI the effort of producing slop code or art that sort of looks like a real thing on the first glance is let's say 5% of the effort needed for the real thing that actually works flawlessly. LLMs and diffusion models bring it down to 0.5%. They are also really good at faking comprehension and make recognizing real experise from phoney cosplayers harder for busy managers, officials, execs, politicians etc. So while AI CAN be used for useful things, it very rarely is and it requires more discipline than most people are willing to invest. Also, the way AI is trained on stolen and random low quality content is deeply disturbing. So yeah, while I'd like anti-AI rants to be more precise and nuanced, in general AI in 2026 is mostly a missuse of a technology with great potential.
  - seanmcdirmid 10mo ago
    Both sides are against slop made by AI, not that bit sides can make slop, which is true but irrelevant. Still so many misconceptions about AI on HN, but I guess it’s just how techies are these days.

jchw 10mo ago

> Aren't we all tired of this anti-AI stuff? Let's do a quick analysis of the amount of money put forth to push AI: > OpenAI has raised a total of $57.9B over 9 funding rounds > Groq has raised a total of $1.75 billion as of September, 2025 Well, we could go on, but I think that's probably a good enough start. I looked into it, but I wasn't able to find information on funding rounds that David Bushell had undergone for his anti-AI agenda. So I would assume that he didn't get paid for it, so I guess it's about $0. Meanwhile: - My mobile phone keyboard has "AI" - Gmail has "AI". Google docs has "AI". At one point every app was becoming a chat app, then a TikTok clone. Now every app is a ChatGPT or Gemini frontend. - I'm using a fork of Firefox that removes most of the junk, and there's still some "AI" in the form of Link Preview summaries. - Windows has "AI". Notepad has "AI". MS Paint has "AI". - GitHub stuck an AI button in place of where the notifications button was, then, presumably after being called every single slur imaginable about 50000 times per day, moved it thirty or so pixels over and added about six more AI buttons to the UI. They have a mildly useful AI code review feature, but it's surprisingly half-baked considering how heavily it is marketed. And I'm not even talking about the actual models being limited, the integration itself is lame. I still consider it mildly useful for catching typos, but that is not with several billion dollars of investment. - Sometimes when I log into Hacker News, more than half of the posts are about AI. Sometimes you get bored of it, so you start trying to look at entries that are not overtly about AI, but find that most of those are actually also about AI, and if not specifically about AI, goes on a 20 minute tangent about AI at some point. - Every day every chat every TV program every person online has been talking about AI this AI that for literally the past couple of years. Literally. - I find a new open source project. Looks good at first. Start to get excited. Dig deeper, things start to look "off". It's not as mature or finished as it looks. The README has a "Directory Structure" listing for some odd reason. There's a diagram of the architecture in a fixed width font, but the whitespace is misaligned on some lines. There's comments in the code that reference things like "but the user requested..." as if, the code wasn't written by the user. Because it wasn't, and worse, it wasn't read by them either. They posted it as if they wrote it making no mention at all that it was prompts they didn't read, wasting everyone's time with half-baked crapware. And you're tired of anti-AI sentiment? Well God damn, allow me to Stable Diffusion generate the world's smallest violin and synthesize a song to play on it using OpenAI Jukebox. I'm not really strictly against AI entirely, but it is the most overhyped technology in human history.

dvfjsdhgfv 10mo ago

Frankly, I never understand this usage of "we". Who is "we"? An honest post would be "I'm tired of this anti-AI stuff". (And I feel you as I'm as bored with "look what my claude produced" posts.)

OptionOfT 10mo ago

No, I'm tired of AI being pushed as this amazing way to make everybody go 100% faster, while being able to lay off 90% of the people. And for some reason the CxO suite and upper management has completely drunk the cool-aid. In the past new technology was adopted sparingly, to figure out whether the juice was worth the squeeze. However with AI it feels like a lot of places are (trying to go|going) all in, both in their work, and integrating it into the products, regardless of whether it makes sense. But most importantly, I think pushback is needed because if AI succeeds in the way it is currently advertised and sold, it's a lot more people than 'just' the Software Engineers that are going to lose their jobs. Which is great for all those companies who currently have a lot less people on payroll. But on the other hand, a lot of the money spent on these companies is discretionary spending. Guess what's the first thing to be cut when you lose your job?

archagon 10mo ago

Maybe they should stop trying to gavage us with it, then.