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Meet the Alaska Student Arrested for Eating an AI Art Exhibit
- krustyburger 9mo ago“No, I didn't know about the exhibit before that day. And then I saw the Al piece and it was just—as an artist myself, it was insulting to see something of such little effort alongside all these beautiful pieces in the gallery. It shouldn't be acceptable for this "art," if you will, to be put alongside these real great pieces.” What an impulsive fellow.
- Der_Einzige 9mo ago[flagged]
- SkyeCA 9mo agoI continue to be shocked by how hateful and nasty some of you are when someone doesn't wholly approve of AI.
- normanthreep 9mo ago[flagged]
- justonceokay 9mo agoEhh it wasn’t even art, hardly
- rsynnott 9mo agoOh, suddenly we _are_ concerned with intellectual property rights RE AI? Much as the image models consume the work of artists, so the artist consumes the product of the image model. It is merely natural justice.
- normanthreep 9mo agoyep, the guy ate intellectual property. he sat down and ate a piece of ip, that's what happened. excellent reasoning my clever friend this is a silly place
- bigyabai 9mo agoIt's a piece of paper. I can compensate the damages out-of-pocket 1,000 times over.
- hulitu 9mo agoTheir salaries depend of it.
- chente 9mo agoThey're right and this also reminds me of the banana that was sold and eaten at Art Basel.
- jollyllama 9mo agoMaybe he was hungry.
- aimor 9mo agoDon't take him to the MoMA he'll need his stomach pumped.
- LinuxAmbulance 9mo agoThe MoMA has some of the best art pieces I've seen out of the hundred plus museums I've been to. It also has by far some of the absolute worst art pieces I've seen in my life - in person, or otherwise. One of them was literally a pile of trash. I used to think that art shouldn't have any gatekeepers, but I've begun to wonder if maybe it should.
- jackyinger 9mo agoIn art one often follows impulses. Art is about expression after all. Plus, if these were really AI creations new copies can be printed. Unless the human “co-creator” did something like paint on the work after printing, not much has been damaged.
- notahacker 9mo agoSomeone, somewhere is disappointed they didn't think of the idea of videoing someone eating AI art as an art exhibit first...
- publicdebates 9mo ago> It shouldn't be acceptable for this "art," if you will, He didn't even will. Why did he encourage others to? Misguided etiquette.
- numpad0 9mo agoIt's just garbage in garbage out. AIs reliably induce rage and negativity in humans. Humans become angry and violent if shown AI generated data. It's just a fact at this point. And it's not even like software engineers are special in that regard. Everyone here is quick to spot and express their opinions on use of AI in articles and everyone seem to like to have their words on rampant vibecoded pull requests. Freedom of thought and speech means you're free to expect people to thank you for spitting on them, and also that nobody else than you would be responsible for that insanity of yours.
- ronsor 9mo ago> AIs reliably induce rage and negativity in humans. Humans become angry and violent if shown AI generated data. It's just a fact at this point. This is more conditioning from moral panic mobs than an innate trait. One could also say that TV makes humans angry and violent, or we could simply stop watching cable news.
- lbrito 9mo ago>One could also say that TV makes humans angry and violent It does Anderson and Bushman (2002) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11440811_The_Effects_of_Media_Violence_on_Society https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11440811_The_Effect... Evidence is steadily accumulating that prolonged exposure to violent TV programming during childhood is associated with subsequent aggression. Paik, H., & Comstock, G. (1994). The effects of television violence on antisocial behavior: A meta-analysis. Communication Research, 21(4), 516–546. https://doi.org/10.1177/009365094021004004 https://doi.org/10.1177/009365094021004004 Results showed positive and significant correlation between TV violence and aggressive behavior Ironically I used Gemini to look those up. Being a social studies thing, of course there is no absolute proof of this, there are many caveats and ways of looking etc. Tangential - "find meta-analysis to back up my point" is ridiculously easy with AI, and it can be used on both sides. I could just as easily negate the ask and get compelling results. I would hate having to write a dissertation right now.
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- corv 9mo agoReally goes to say something about starving artists
- danesparza 9mo agoAs much as I wanted to roll my eyes, this did give me a chuckle.
- Ronsenshi 9mo agoUnfortunately AI "art" has about the same amount of nutritional value as artistic value. I'd recommend him to go for oil paintings.
- adolph 9mo agoCW: Have you ever been in an eating contest? GG: Yeah, a long long time ago. I did a mashed potato eating contest at a renaissance fair back in Georgia.
- zoklet-enjoyer 9mo agoA performance artist criticizing an AI artist for low effort. Hmm
- stryan 9mo agoFinally, a proper example of direct action.
- MisterTea 9mo ago> Dwyer claims Granger’s act was akin to slashing someone’s tires to protest the oil industry. Granger's protest was properly executed as you slash the tires of the oil trucks and oil execs - you strike the people peddling what you are protesting. So of course Dwyer is trying to downplay the significance.
- ronsor 9mo agoWouldn't it make more sense to strike OpenAI, or Midjourney, or whatever else then? Aside from that, I don't think this "protest" will result in anything more than maybe some increased security (and maybe more arrests if he inspires others to do similar).
- yifanl 9mo agoI'm sure he'll be happy to eat whatever sama frames in the MOMA too, but you can only protest what's in your reach.
- __loam 9mo agoEating all AI "art" that tries to displace real artists in these spaces is the only moral decision.
- striking 9mo agoGot you to talk about it, though, didn't it? > CW: Do you consider what you did protest, performance art, both, or something else? > GG: Both. It’s a protest against the school’s AI policy specifically and it’s performance art because I needed something that would elicit a reaction. So this could reach more people. Not everything has to be a global battle for all the marbles. Sometimes you're just pissed off that your school has a stupid policy and the administration won't listen to you. No better way to change that than make the news (aside from maybe going after donors).
- mrkeen 9mo agoSlightly tangential: > He initially wanted to press charges because Granger’s act “violates the sanctity of the gallery,” but changed his mind > Left: Graham Granger after his arraignment outside the court building I was beginning to think "pressing charges" was a myth (popularised by TV shows like Law & Order) and this article didn't exactly change my mind about that. Do US state attorneys actually give two shits about what the victim wants? Is it someone's job to read an email inbox and systematically approve/reject citizens' pressed charges? Do they even pretend to?
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- jnwatson 9mo agoParticipation of the victim makes prosecution easier. That's all pressing charges means, even if it isn't what many people understand it to be.
- mrkeen 9mo agoThanks. 4 sibling comments and this was the only one that tried to answer "is pressing charges actually a thing"
- jabroni_salad 9mo agoUltimately there are some types of cases where if the victim does not want to cooperate, it isn't going to succeed. Also, government attorneys can be elected officials. Spending time achieving nothing against a bunch of uncooperative screwball artists isn't going to be something to brag about on the campaign trail.
- HWR_14 9mo agoUsually the attorneys who handle this are not state level but county or city level. In general they have so many cases to handle that victims who don't want the case pursued will cause them to drop the case.
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- aaronbrethorst 9mo agoNext he should go eat Sherrie Levine photographs. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/267214 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/267214
- hiprob 9mo ago"No officers, I don't know where the AI art exhibit went" Suspiciously AI art exhibit shaped belly:
- adzm 9mo agoTo eat AI art is human. But to digest it, is divine
- axus 9mo agoCW: Do you use AI for anything? GG: I don’t really use it period. I miss the Wikipedia blurbs being at the top of webpages. If I’m looking up a simple math fact that I don’t know—like what the weight of something is—I’ll look at the AI summary, but I never, almost never, hit the expand button.
- treis 9mo agoHoly rationalization Batman
- prmoustache 9mo agoEating polaroid pictures can't be good for your health.
- lbrito 9mo agoHe just chewed them and spat them out
- ycombinatrix 9mo agoNot all of them lol
- t1205-1227 9mo agoPeople used to get arrested for infringing copyright, now they get arrested (or murdered, see below) for defending it. And the thieves sit in Davos, together with representatives of a party that wants to steal IP, Greenland, Venezuela and many other things. And the press appeases the thieves instead of asking about the murder of Suchir Balaji.
- john-h-k 9mo ago> People used to get arrested for infringing copyright, now they get arrested (or murdered, see below) for defending it Yes because stealing illegal items (if you believe AI generated imagery should be illegal) is still illegal
- flufluflufluffy 9mo agoI tried reading the article but after the third time the page’s scroll state reset on its own due to all the dynamic ads/popups/notices, I had to give up.
- Avicebron 9mo agoOn mobile the site is unreadable. The red banner at the bottom goes from taking up half the screen to a quater when using the caret to minimize. I was then immediately served a full page ad about Ron Howard when I tried to scroll down.. Something something, "it's arrested development"
- KomoD 9mo agoYeah and then there's also tons of ad squares between the article text, and some annoying video player.
- testhest 9mo agoIts exactly this kind of stunt being called "art" that has devalued the word out of any positive connotations.
- troyvit 9mo agoWhich, the stunt of creating the AI generated art or the stunt of eating it? To me it's the former, and as the interviewee says, art is subjective even if the means of creating it are not.
- ottah 9mo agoI find that people who are the most opposed to diffusion models are usually the most ignorant about the technology. AI art doesn't begin and end with Midjourney and OpenAI. If you don't know what a controlnet, comfyui node, lcm, or lora is, then I'm not sure you really have anything valuable to lend to the conversation. There's a massive world of tools and techniques out there, and I just cannot fathom why people can't be bothered to look beyond the most readily available knowledge and be so insistent in their moral correctness.
- bublyboi 9mo agoSo the artist is following through with pressing charges? Instead of just hitting ctrl+p and reprinting his art? Seems like an opportunity to give someone a break who might need one.
- troyvit 9mo agoI read that the artist dropped his charges but that the state is still continuing with its charges. Grainger is hoping to get off with a fine.
- kittikitti 9mo agoThe worst part of these modern age Luddites is that they feel morally superior. I appreciate AI art so this sounds extreme. I blame the media for farming hate content and then feeding it to vulnerable people who think they're informed enough to justify violence and vandalism. When the color printer was mass produced, you could print the Mona Lisa and artists had similar protests. Arguably, this started the entire abstract and surrealist movement where things like a urinal became art simply because you couldn't print it out. I don't want art to be about how much someone suffered to make it. However, part of my appreciation is the artist, and AI art is lower on my appreciation than hand created paintings. I think the solution is to increase awareness of art appreciation instead of empowering ignorant and violent demonstrations. Is AI art really a threat? Is it really like a nuclear bomb? I don't think so, and the only people benefitting from this are the gatekeepers who will inevitably sell the solution to whatever the public thinks is ethical AI.
- hulitu 9mo ago> Meet the Alaska Student Arrested for Eating an AI Art Exhibit I'm more interested in an AI Art Exhibit eating a Student