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Thought I recall Vinay Prasad saying (back in 2020 or 2021) that masks don't really work well enough for us to force all kids to wear them. Like chance passing

Thought I recall Vinay Prasad saying (back in 2020 or 2021) that masks don't really work well enough for us to force all kids to wear them. Like chance passing encounters they have some effectiveness, but an imperfectly used non-n95 mask is basically worthless. But the latter scenario is what nearly everyone was doing.

duskdozer 9mo ago
>Vinay Prasad frequent touter of other right-wing ideas surround the pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinay_Prasad#COVID_response https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinay_Prasad#COVID_response >but an imperfectly used non-n95 mask is basically worthless. also not true. Even surgical or cloth masks on bearded individuals provide 30-40% aerosol filtration https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8130778/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8130778/ The myth that laypeople couldn't effectively use masks was just turning the topic into an all-or-nothing binary, knowing people would be discouraged.
- Madmallard 9mo ago
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  - duskdozer 9mo ago
    And your political views are clouding your judgment of what a proper response to disease is. If surgical masks are insufficient because people are getting Covid sitting in rooms with others re-breathing the same air for hours, then valid solutions are to remove the people from the environment, remove the hazard from the environment, or provide better means to protect people from the environment, not increase people's exposure to the hazard. So-called lockdowns and isolation were very limited outside of perhaps China and are vastly overblown rhetorically in how strict they were in practice. The effect of repeated COVID infections on children is something measurable and demonstrably serious, and we'll continue to find out more and more of these issues overtime.
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    - mannanj 9mo ago
      I think you're taking things a bit too personally here and being defensive, and a bit hostile. We can stay decent and dignified on hacker news, right?

duskdozer 9mo ago

>Vinay Prasad frequent touter of other right-wing ideas surround the pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinay_Prasad#COVID_response https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinay_Prasad#COVID_response >but an imperfectly used non-n95 mask is basically worthless. also not true. Even surgical or cloth masks on bearded individuals provide 30-40% aerosol filtration https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8130778/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8130778/ The myth that laypeople couldn't effectively use masks was just turning the topic into an all-or-nothing binary, knowing people would be discouraged.

Madmallard 9mo ago
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- duskdozer 9mo ago
  And your political views are clouding your judgment of what a proper response to disease is. If surgical masks are insufficient because people are getting Covid sitting in rooms with others re-breathing the same air for hours, then valid solutions are to remove the people from the environment, remove the hazard from the environment, or provide better means to protect people from the environment, not increase people's exposure to the hazard. So-called lockdowns and isolation were very limited outside of perhaps China and are vastly overblown rhetorically in how strict they were in practice. The effect of repeated COVID infections on children is something measurable and demonstrably serious, and we'll continue to find out more and more of these issues overtime.
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  - mannanj 9mo ago
    I think you're taking things a bit too personally here and being defensive, and a bit hostile. We can stay decent and dignified on hacker news, right?