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It can't be anonymous. There has to be some form of IDV to ensure it is a registered voter.
by terminalshort 9mo ago
It can't be anonymous. There has to be some form of IDV to ensure it is a registered voter.
- FeteCommuniste 9mo agoThe vote needs to be anonymous, not the registration + checkin process.
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- phanimahesh 9mo agoWhen digital content can be duplicated with ease, it is difficult to guarantee verified voter but untraceable vote.
- dghlsakjg 9mo agoThe ballot has to be anonymous, or unable to be tied back to the voter once cast. It’s a hard requirement for a variety of reasons
- seanmcdirmid 9mo agoYou have to trust the voting place/ballot receiver in all cases. Like, after they take your name, you need to make sure that they aren't secretly associating your name with the ballot you are filling in. Likewise, if you vote by mail, you need to make sure that they aren't associating your identity on the envelope with the anonymous ballot inside the envelope.
- closewith 9mo agoThis is a solved problem for in-person voting with indentical ballots and self-depositing into sealed ballot boxes. It is an unsolvable problem for mail in voting, which is why it should be prohibited in most cases.
- dghlsakjg 9mo agoIt’s also a solved problem for mail in. Double envelope systems, observable counting systems and standardized ballots that can checked for non uniqueness before voting are how they do it. People have thought hard about this, and it has worked fine for may states for decades now.
- closewith 9mo agoThat only solves the double-counting problem, and it's fundamentally impossible to solve the voter ID and voter manipulation problems with postal voting.
- seanmcdirmid 9mo agoExcept for older republicans and military members in almost all states?
- closewith 9mo agoI'm not American, so I don't understand the older republican comment, but except in exceptionally adverse circumstances (astronauts on the ISS or submariners, etc) the military can provide ballot boxes to it's personnel.
- dghlsakjg 9mo agoMilitary and overseas voters vote in their home state elections, even federally (all elections are held by states, even for federal candidates). You would need to ensure that there is a ballot box representing each state that has an eligible voter at a given site, and then need to figure out logistics for getting thousands of sealed boxes back to the vote counters in each state within the allotted deadline. You would also need to solve the issue of maintaining vote anonymity at low volumes. Or, you could have a central, federally run organization that takes responsibility for delivering sealed ballots to the respective states in a timely manner. Which is what we call voting by mail.
- stouset 9mo agoPlease do yourself a favor and volunteer at a voting location. These are essentially solved issues, and you seem completely unaware of that fact.
- seanmcdirmid 9mo agoI live in a vote by mail state (like most of the west), I know exactly how it’s done.
- Joel_Mckay 9mo agoIndeed, many people now get a erroneous covid tax-relief refund bill for not qualifying for a program they never signed up for in the first place. One local scammer made off with a $5m government refund for a fraudulent business tax filing. You can't make this stuff up if you tried... At some point, one is just amazed at the size of the cons people pull online. =3