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We’ve seen decades of growing wage gaps and erosion of labors strength. The current elites don’t really care to enrich the people. Why would they care to do any

We’ve seen decades of growing wage gaps and erosion of labors strength. The current elites don’t really care to enrich the people. Why would they care to do anything about this problem? They likely don’t see it as a problem at all. If they did actually stumble on AGI (assuming it didn’t eat them too) it would be used by a select few to enslave or remove the rest of us.

alfalfasprout 9mo ago
Not sure why this is being downvoted. It's spot on. You see folks like Dario et al. raising the alarm bells about what they claim is coming... while working as hard as they can to bring that gloomy future to fruition. No one in power is going to help unless there's money in it.
- thatguy0900 9mo ago
  You can also see all of these people building survival bunkers.
- lbrito 9mo ago
  Its being downvoted because HN has a very active billionaire-techbro-fanbase. Also who's this Dario?
  - mapontosevenths 9mo ago
    It's being downvoted because it's a ridiculous premise. "The Elites" are human too. This attitude is nonsensical and child-like. Nobody is out here trying to round up the hippies and force them to live in some kind of pods to be harvested for their nutrients or whatever. This technology, like every prior technology, will cause some people to lose their jobs and some new jobs to be created. This will annoy people who have to learn new skill instead of coasting until retirement as they planned. It is no different than the buggy whip manufacturers being annoyed at Henry Ford. They were right that it was bad for their industry, but wrong about it being the death of... well all the million things they claimed it would be the death of.
    - iwontberude 9mo ago
      And just like Henry Ford and the automobile, one of many externalities was the destruction of black communities: white flight that drained wealth, eminent domain for highways, and increased asthma incidence and other disease from concentrated pollution.
      - mapontosevenths 9mo ago
        Yet, overall it was a net positive for society... as almost every technological innovation in history has been. Did you know the 2/3rds of the people alive today wouldn't be if it hadn't been for the invention of the Haber-bosch process? Technology isn't just a toy, it's our life support mechanism. The only way our population gets to keep growing is if our technology continues to improve. Will there be some unintended consequences? Absolutely. Does that mean we can (or even should) stop it? Hell no. Being pro-human requires you to be pro-technology.
        treebigtree 8mo ago
        "as almost every technological innovation in history has been" This is simply false. You really are the king of making unfounded claims.
        mapontosevenths 8mo ago
        I don't need to prove anything. You folks are the ones claiming harm. That said, AI is more akin to the invention of antibiotics than it is to the invention of any specific drug. Name any other entire category of technology from which no good has ever come. Just one. I doubt you can. Even bioweapons led to breakthroughs in pesticides and chemotherapy. Nukes led to nuclear power, and even harmful AI stuff like deep fakes are being used for image restorations, special effects, and medical imaging. You're just flat out wrong, and I think you know it.
        iwontberude 8mo ago
  - iwontberude 9mo ago
    It's because people rub shoulders with tech billionaires and they seem normal enough (e.g. kind to wait staff, friends and family). The billionaires, like anyone, protect their immediate relationships to insulate the air of normality and good health they experience personally. Those people who interact with billionaires then bristle at our dissonant point of view when we point at the externalities. Externalities that have been hand waved in the name of modernity. Sycophancy is for more than just LLMs.
  - tyg13 9mo ago
    Presumably Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic.
- iwontberude 9mo ago
  According to Trump, "If it was up to Stephen [Miller], there would only be 100 million people in this country — and all of them would look like him."
aogaili 9mo ago
People should vote for more socialist governments pushing for UBI and automation tax on the companies..but which this comment get downvoted because of the capitalism religion.
- randomNumber7 9mo ago
  Imo socialism isn't the solution, but we probably can all agree that capitalism looks dangerous at the moment.
  - Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
    > Imo socialism isn't the solution, but we probably can all agree that capitalism looks dangerous at the moment. I believe some socialism aspects while being georgist and expanding the definition of rent seeking to include large hyperscalers or internet attention farms in some sense too. As a young person, I can't afford to buy a house and some of us even wonder if we would be able to afford rent in such a shaky economy. Even migration towards different countries I feel like rent becomes the most major aspect imo. Mr beat's video on georgism genuinely changed how I perceive things ngl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c5xjlmLfAw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c5xjlmLfAw : [I found the last bad way to tax] (talks about georgism)

alfalfasprout 9mo ago

Not sure why this is being downvoted. It's spot on. You see folks like Dario et al. raising the alarm bells about what they claim is coming... while working as hard as they can to bring that gloomy future to fruition. No one in power is going to help unless there's money in it.

thatguy0900 9mo ago
You can also see all of these people building survival bunkers.
lbrito 9mo ago
Its being downvoted because HN has a very active billionaire-techbro-fanbase. Also who's this Dario?
- mapontosevenths 9mo ago
  It's being downvoted because it's a ridiculous premise. "The Elites" are human too. This attitude is nonsensical and child-like. Nobody is out here trying to round up the hippies and force them to live in some kind of pods to be harvested for their nutrients or whatever. This technology, like every prior technology, will cause some people to lose their jobs and some new jobs to be created. This will annoy people who have to learn new skill instead of coasting until retirement as they planned. It is no different than the buggy whip manufacturers being annoyed at Henry Ford. They were right that it was bad for their industry, but wrong about it being the death of... well all the million things they claimed it would be the death of.
  - iwontberude 9mo ago
    And just like Henry Ford and the automobile, one of many externalities was the destruction of black communities: white flight that drained wealth, eminent domain for highways, and increased asthma incidence and other disease from concentrated pollution.
    - mapontosevenths 9mo ago
      Yet, overall it was a net positive for society... as almost every technological innovation in history has been. Did you know the 2/3rds of the people alive today wouldn't be if it hadn't been for the invention of the Haber-bosch process? Technology isn't just a toy, it's our life support mechanism. The only way our population gets to keep growing is if our technology continues to improve. Will there be some unintended consequences? Absolutely. Does that mean we can (or even should) stop it? Hell no. Being pro-human requires you to be pro-technology.
      - treebigtree 8mo ago
        "as almost every technological innovation in history has been" This is simply false. You really are the king of making unfounded claims.
        mapontosevenths 8mo ago
        I don't need to prove anything. You folks are the ones claiming harm. That said, AI is more akin to the invention of antibiotics than it is to the invention of any specific drug. Name any other entire category of technology from which no good has ever come. Just one. I doubt you can. Even bioweapons led to breakthroughs in pesticides and chemotherapy. Nukes led to nuclear power, and even harmful AI stuff like deep fakes are being used for image restorations, special effects, and medical imaging. You're just flat out wrong, and I think you know it.
        iwontberude 8mo ago
- iwontberude 9mo ago
  It's because people rub shoulders with tech billionaires and they seem normal enough (e.g. kind to wait staff, friends and family). The billionaires, like anyone, protect their immediate relationships to insulate the air of normality and good health they experience personally. Those people who interact with billionaires then bristle at our dissonant point of view when we point at the externalities. Externalities that have been hand waved in the name of modernity. Sycophancy is for more than just LLMs.
- tyg13 9mo ago
  Presumably Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic.
iwontberude 9mo ago
According to Trump, "If it was up to Stephen [Miller], there would only be 100 million people in this country — and all of them would look like him."

aogaili 9mo ago

People should vote for more socialist governments pushing for UBI and automation tax on the companies..but which this comment get downvoted because of the capitalism religion.

randomNumber7 9mo ago
Imo socialism isn't the solution, but we probably can all agree that capitalism looks dangerous at the moment.
- Imustaskforhelp 9mo ago
  > Imo socialism isn't the solution, but we probably can all agree that capitalism looks dangerous at the moment. I believe some socialism aspects while being georgist and expanding the definition of rent seeking to include large hyperscalers or internet attention farms in some sense too. As a young person, I can't afford to buy a house and some of us even wonder if we would be able to afford rent in such a shaky economy. Even migration towards different countries I feel like rent becomes the most major aspect imo. Mr beat's video on georgism genuinely changed how I perceive things ngl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c5xjlmLfAw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c5xjlmLfAw : [I found the last bad way to tax] (talks about georgism)