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There is a huge spectrum between "require impossible documentation" and "require none". Germany and EU are heading towards the former.
by egorfine 9mo ago
There is a huge spectrum between "require impossible documentation" and "require none". Germany and EU are heading towards the former.
- embedding-shape 9mo agoLiterally the whole effort this submission, is about is moving a tiny step towards "require none" but not go all the way, compared to how it is today. You chose the wrong submission to comment that on, in any "new regulation in EU" submission that might have been appropriate, but this move is quite the opposite of what you say is happening.
- egorfine 9mo ago> this move My point is that this move will not happen. I don't believe EU can overcome a huge and extremely motivated army of bureaucrats.
- philipallstar 9mo agoThis isn't an EU move, is it?
- embedding-shape 9mo ago> This isn't an EU move, is it? What, exactly, do you mean with "EU move"? I guess technically it's a "European Commission" move, but overall it's a European and EU move, unless "move" has some specific meaning to you.
- Bewelge 9mo agoGerman here. That's not true. What crazy documentation do you require? An ID, proof of residence, and a business plan? (edit: you don't even need a business plan) That being said, everything about the process is annoying and you always have the feeling that you're doing something wrong or forgetting something. Together with some ridiculously slow processing times, it's the perfect combination to frustrate you and I'm sure it ultimately reduces innovation. But in reality, getting all the paperwork together is probably a couple of hours of work. You can buy services that do it for you for a couple of hundred Euros.
- jagrsw 9mo agoI don't know much about corporations, but why business plans are needed at all? I mean, for EU citizens. bank (loans), immigration and investors can be interested, but their interests are not covering every corporation out there.
- embedding-shape 9mo agoIt's basically a proof of "most basic effort" that you're serious. You could probably note down some stuff on a single A4 and get it approved, it doesn't have to be a 40 page dossier. Kind of like fizzbuzz, just something really simple and most basic to get rid of the "easy scams" and so on. Edit: So "easy scams" are probably the wrong word, I initially wrote "riffraff" because in my mothertoungue that isn't so... disparaging, but what I meant was that it's used as "bare minimum filter" basically.
- zdragnar 9mo agoThat doesn't really sound like a barrier to the easy scams at all. It just sounds like something someone once thought would be a good idea and now everyone has to do it because that's the process.
- philipallstar 9mo agoHow would this get rid of easy scams?
- whatevaa 9mo agoChatGPT, give me a convincing sounding business plans for starting a bussiness in Germany. Done.
- Xylakant 9mo agoThere’s absolutely no need to have a business plan to start a company in Germany. You articles of incorporation and they state a company purpose, but this can be something as simple as “do IT consulting”. Obviously, having a credible plan helps if you try to convince banks to loan you money or any such thing, but the act of registering a company requires no such thing.