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Stabbing others in the back is no way to behave, especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when pe

by meaty 14y ago

Stabbing others in the back is no way to behave, especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when people complain that their launcher commands are showing inappropriate images.

mistercow 14y ago
>especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when people complain that their launcher commands are showing inappropriate images That objection doesn't make any sense because those complaints are unrelated to the complaints people have about Windows 8. If you want to say that directly attacking your competition is un-classy, fine (although a better criticism might be that directly attacking your competition is known to be ineffective marketing). But to say that specific random shortcomings of Ubuntu have any bearing on the matter is silly.
- meaty 14y ago
  I'm making a couple of points in that comment: 1. Attacking your competition is definitely not classy. 2. The suddly introduced shortcomings of Ubuntu are being ignored and regularly hidden away under the wave of marketing from (1).
  - vidarh 14y ago
    The "shortcoming" is fixed by uninstalling a single package.
vacipr 14y ago
So you are saying Windows 8 is bad means backstabbing Microsoft? Everyone seems to be doing that lately. As far as I know they're not sending the requests directly to Amazon and there are currently 2 ways to disable that. Have you tried disabling metro ? Good luck with that. Also Dash no longer displays adult content from Amazon.
- ordinary 14y ago
  You know how the IE team sent (do they still?) cakes to Mozilla for Firefox major version releases? This is the opposite of that.
  - recoiledsnake 14y ago
    They stopped sending cakes once the Firefox team started releasing versions faster to get more cakes from Microsoft.
    - skinnymuch 14y ago
      It may be the middle of the night, but I laughed far too hard at your comment.
atopuzov 14y ago
Ubuntu BUG #1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
- bni 14y ago
  Interesting, they changed it form "Windows" to "Proprietary". Or do I misremember that?
  - mxey 14y ago
    You do not, it once read “Windows has…”
  - Evbn 14y ago
    After 8 years of saying "Windows", it was changed as part of the 12.10 cycle.
thechut 14y ago
Lots of people are quick to jump on this "Avoid the pain of Windows 8" comment but people need to relax. Their is something major being overlooked here. Ubuntu is giving away their OS for FREE. $0 Windows 8 will be cheaper than previous Windows upgrades but lets not forget about the pillars of free software and why to support it.
- Jare 14y ago
  'Free' and 'polite' are not mutually exclusive. The first pillar of free software is not '$0 free', it's 'respect'.
  - gizmo686 14y ago
    I don't recall ever seeing respect as a pillar of free software. I always thought the first pillar was freedom. Canocial can be as rude as they want, but as long as they do not make it difficult for me to do what I want with their software, their software is free.
    - Jare 14y ago
      Free Software is about acknowledging and enabling your rights and value, both individually and within the community. Freedom of availability / modification / etc are the tools to achieve that. However, just because you give me something for free, doesn't mean you value me and want to empower me. And you can't value someone if you don't respect them first. Perhaps this is all just arguing semantics, but the idea that motives matter is important to me.
  - pimeys 14y ago
    I don't understand how can Linux folks feel any respect for Microsoft after what they tried to do to Linux community a couple of years ago...
    - Snoddas 14y ago
      "They started it" - Is no reason to be disrespectful or rude. Instead they should show by example how a to act.
takluyver 14y ago
'Stabbing in the back' generally implies betraying someone who trusted you. I don't think that's really applicable here: Canonical are directly competing with Microsoft. For what it's worth, that slogan seems to have been changed now: the home page now just says "Your wish is our command." Though I'm sure critics will still see plenty of irony there.

by meaty 14y ago

mistercow 14y ago

>especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when people complain that their launcher commands are showing inappropriate images That objection doesn't make any sense because those complaints are unrelated to the complaints people have about Windows 8. If you want to say that directly attacking your competition is un-classy, fine (although a better criticism might be that directly attacking your competition is known to be ineffective marketing). But to say that specific random shortcomings of Ubuntu have any bearing on the matter is silly.

meaty 14y ago
I'm making a couple of points in that comment: 1. Attacking your competition is definitely not classy. 2. The suddly introduced shortcomings of Ubuntu are being ignored and regularly hidden away under the wave of marketing from (1).
- vidarh 14y ago
  The "shortcoming" is fixed by uninstalling a single package.

vacipr 14y ago

So you are saying Windows 8 is bad means backstabbing Microsoft? Everyone seems to be doing that lately. As far as I know they're not sending the requests directly to Amazon and there are currently 2 ways to disable that. Have you tried disabling metro ? Good luck with that. Also Dash no longer displays adult content from Amazon.

ordinary 14y ago
You know how the IE team sent (do they still?) cakes to Mozilla for Firefox major version releases? This is the opposite of that.
- recoiledsnake 14y ago
  They stopped sending cakes once the Firefox team started releasing versions faster to get more cakes from Microsoft.
  - skinnymuch 14y ago
    It may be the middle of the night, but I laughed far too hard at your comment.

atopuzov 14y ago

Ubuntu BUG #1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1

bni 14y ago
Interesting, they changed it form "Windows" to "Proprietary". Or do I misremember that?
- mxey 14y ago
  You do not, it once read “Windows has…”
- Evbn 14y ago
  After 8 years of saying "Windows", it was changed as part of the 12.10 cycle.

thechut 14y ago

Lots of people are quick to jump on this "Avoid the pain of Windows 8" comment but people need to relax. Their is something major being overlooked here. Ubuntu is giving away their OS for FREE. $0 Windows 8 will be cheaper than previous Windows upgrades but lets not forget about the pillars of free software and why to support it.

Jare 14y ago
'Free' and 'polite' are not mutually exclusive. The first pillar of free software is not '$0 free', it's 'respect'.
- gizmo686 14y ago
  I don't recall ever seeing respect as a pillar of free software. I always thought the first pillar was freedom. Canocial can be as rude as they want, but as long as they do not make it difficult for me to do what I want with their software, their software is free.
  - Jare 14y ago
    Free Software is about acknowledging and enabling your rights and value, both individually and within the community. Freedom of availability / modification / etc are the tools to achieve that. However, just because you give me something for free, doesn't mean you value me and want to empower me. And you can't value someone if you don't respect them first. Perhaps this is all just arguing semantics, but the idea that motives matter is important to me.
- pimeys 14y ago
  I don't understand how can Linux folks feel any respect for Microsoft after what they tried to do to Linux community a couple of years ago...
  - Snoddas 14y ago
    "They started it" - Is no reason to be disrespectful or rude. Instead they should show by example how a to act.

takluyver 14y ago

'Stabbing in the back' generally implies betraying someone who trusted you. I don't think that's really applicable here: Canonical are directly competing with Microsoft. For what it's worth, that slogan seems to have been changed now: the home page now just says "Your wish is our command." Though I'm sure critics will still see plenty of irony there.