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"Avoid the pain of Windows 8." Well done Canonical..well done. Here's a nice alternative for those having problems with the site. http://releases.ubuntu.com/

by vacipr 14y ago

"Avoid the pain of Windows 8." Well done Canonical..well done. Here's a nice alternative for those having problems with the site. http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/

meaty 14y ago
Stabbing others in the back is no way to behave, especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when people complain that their launcher commands are showing inappropriate images.
- mistercow 14y ago
  >especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when people complain that their launcher commands are showing inappropriate images That objection doesn't make any sense because those complaints are unrelated to the complaints people have about Windows 8. If you want to say that directly attacking your competition is un-classy, fine (although a better criticism might be that directly attacking your competition is known to be ineffective marketing). But to say that specific random shortcomings of Ubuntu have any bearing on the matter is silly.
  - meaty 14y ago
    I'm making a couple of points in that comment: 1. Attacking your competition is definitely not classy. 2. The suddly introduced shortcomings of Ubuntu are being ignored and regularly hidden away under the wave of marketing from (1).
    - vidarh 14y ago
      The "shortcoming" is fixed by uninstalling a single package.
- vacipr 14y ago
  So you are saying Windows 8 is bad means backstabbing Microsoft? Everyone seems to be doing that lately. As far as I know they're not sending the requests directly to Amazon and there are currently 2 ways to disable that. Have you tried disabling metro ? Good luck with that. Also Dash no longer displays adult content from Amazon.
  - ordinary 14y ago
    You know how the IE team sent (do they still?) cakes to Mozilla for Firefox major version releases? This is the opposite of that.
    - recoiledsnake 14y ago
      They stopped sending cakes once the Firefox team started releasing versions faster to get more cakes from Microsoft.
      - skinnymuch 14y ago
        It may be the middle of the night, but I laughed far too hard at your comment.
- atopuzov 14y ago
  Ubuntu BUG #1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
  - bni 14y ago
    Interesting, they changed it form "Windows" to "Proprietary". Or do I misremember that?
    - mxey 14y ago
      You do not, it once read “Windows has…”
    - Evbn 14y ago
      After 8 years of saying "Windows", it was changed as part of the 12.10 cycle.
- thechut 14y ago
  Lots of people are quick to jump on this "Avoid the pain of Windows 8" comment but people need to relax. Their is something major being overlooked here. Ubuntu is giving away their OS for FREE. $0 Windows 8 will be cheaper than previous Windows upgrades but lets not forget about the pillars of free software and why to support it.
  - Jare 14y ago
    'Free' and 'polite' are not mutually exclusive. The first pillar of free software is not '$0 free', it's 'respect'.
    - gizmo686 14y ago
      I don't recall ever seeing respect as a pillar of free software. I always thought the first pillar was freedom. Canocial can be as rude as they want, but as long as they do not make it difficult for me to do what I want with their software, their software is free.
      - Jare 14y ago
        Free Software is about acknowledging and enabling your rights and value, both individually and within the community. Freedom of availability / modification / etc are the tools to achieve that. However, just because you give me something for free, doesn't mean you value me and want to empower me. And you can't value someone if you don't respect them first. Perhaps this is all just arguing semantics, but the idea that motives matter is important to me.
    - pimeys 14y ago
      I don't understand how can Linux folks feel any respect for Microsoft after what they tried to do to Linux community a couple of years ago...
      - Snoddas 14y ago
        "They started it" - Is no reason to be disrespectful or rude. Instead they should show by example how a to act.
- takluyver 14y ago
  'Stabbing in the back' generally implies betraying someone who trusted you. I don't think that's really applicable here: Canonical are directly competing with Microsoft. For what it's worth, that slogan seems to have been changed now: the home page now just says "Your wish is our command." Though I'm sure critics will still see plenty of irony there.
georgemcbay 14y ago
"Avoid the pain of Windows 8." I've been running Windows 8 since the RTM went to MSDN. I adjusted to the cheese-moving pain of Windows 8 within a week. Four months into Ubuntu with Unity I eventually adjusted to the cheese-moving pain of Unity by switching to Mint. Ubuntu has no leg to stand on when it comes to new versions of an OS making unwanted changes to UX. [Before anyone chimes in here, I know you can set up Ubuntu to work with other desktops than Unity, but IMO there's not really a compelling reason to stick with it when the out-of-the-box experience is inferior to another distro.]
- javajosh 14y ago
  Forgive me, but I don't know what you mean by "cheese-moving pain". Two questions: first, is this a well-known term that I've just not run across? And second, what do you mean by it? (And if the answer to 1 is "no" then, WTH?)
  - georgemcbay 14y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese
    - skeletonjelly 14y ago
      Interesting. Have you read the book? Wondering if I could use something out of this for clients who fear the change (be it UI, UX, process)
      - georgemcbay 14y ago
        I've never read the book the phrase comes from actually, so I can't speak to it directly. I'm only aware of the phrase "moving the cheese" because it has become a bit of a meme over the past few years in development/IT (this may be a regional thing).
      - nodata 14y ago
        You can read the book in less than an hour, it's not big.
jw_ 14y ago
Avoid the trainwreck that is Metro by hopping onboard the trainwreck that is Unity! Sorry, that slogan is a bit much given how bad the recent Ubuntu releases have been.
foxhop 14y ago
Starting drama with the competition is a good move, it makes your company/product relevant, causes people to talk about your company/product, and shows that your product/company has personality. The term "Avoid the pain of Windows 8." is not overly offensive and does not lack class.
kisielk 14y ago
Trying to use multiple monitors on an Nvidia card and nothing but pain. They work just fine under Windows.
- LarryMade 14y ago
  Hmm, seems to be working fine for me, have two going right now.
  - scorpioxy 14y ago
    Same here. Unity had a few bugs which seems to be fixed in this release but nothing annoying enough for me to switch. Ironically, I also ran two screens on an ATI card which I bought to support their open source efforts. The nVidia was much better!
  - kisielk 14y ago
    Care to send me a description of your setup? If I use the nvidia binary driver with twinview then the rendering is glacially slow. It's fast with nouveau but then I have display artifacts everywhere, regions of the screen get filled with solid blue.
- xentronium 14y ago
  If you only have two, it's bearable, though.
- moondowner 14y ago
  Use KDE (Kubuntu), it has better multimonitor support. http://brainacle.com/multiseating-with-kde-and-xbmc-like-a-boss.html http://brainacle.com/multiseating-with-kde-and-xbmc-like-a-b...

by vacipr 14y ago

meaty 14y ago

Stabbing others in the back is no way to behave, especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when people complain that their launcher commands are showing inappropriate images.

mistercow 14y ago
>especially when they're pumping what the user types in the launcher straight at amazon and closing bugs when people complain that their launcher commands are showing inappropriate images That objection doesn't make any sense because those complaints are unrelated to the complaints people have about Windows 8. If you want to say that directly attacking your competition is un-classy, fine (although a better criticism might be that directly attacking your competition is known to be ineffective marketing). But to say that specific random shortcomings of Ubuntu have any bearing on the matter is silly.
- meaty 14y ago
  I'm making a couple of points in that comment: 1. Attacking your competition is definitely not classy. 2. The suddly introduced shortcomings of Ubuntu are being ignored and regularly hidden away under the wave of marketing from (1).
  - vidarh 14y ago
    The "shortcoming" is fixed by uninstalling a single package.
vacipr 14y ago
So you are saying Windows 8 is bad means backstabbing Microsoft? Everyone seems to be doing that lately. As far as I know they're not sending the requests directly to Amazon and there are currently 2 ways to disable that. Have you tried disabling metro ? Good luck with that. Also Dash no longer displays adult content from Amazon.
- ordinary 14y ago
  You know how the IE team sent (do they still?) cakes to Mozilla for Firefox major version releases? This is the opposite of that.
  - recoiledsnake 14y ago
    They stopped sending cakes once the Firefox team started releasing versions faster to get more cakes from Microsoft.
    - skinnymuch 14y ago
      It may be the middle of the night, but I laughed far too hard at your comment.
atopuzov 14y ago
Ubuntu BUG #1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
- bni 14y ago
  Interesting, they changed it form "Windows" to "Proprietary". Or do I misremember that?
  - mxey 14y ago
    You do not, it once read “Windows has…”
  - Evbn 14y ago
    After 8 years of saying "Windows", it was changed as part of the 12.10 cycle.
thechut 14y ago
Lots of people are quick to jump on this "Avoid the pain of Windows 8" comment but people need to relax. Their is something major being overlooked here. Ubuntu is giving away their OS for FREE. $0 Windows 8 will be cheaper than previous Windows upgrades but lets not forget about the pillars of free software and why to support it.
- Jare 14y ago
  'Free' and 'polite' are not mutually exclusive. The first pillar of free software is not '$0 free', it's 'respect'.
  - gizmo686 14y ago
    I don't recall ever seeing respect as a pillar of free software. I always thought the first pillar was freedom. Canocial can be as rude as they want, but as long as they do not make it difficult for me to do what I want with their software, their software is free.
    - Jare 14y ago
      Free Software is about acknowledging and enabling your rights and value, both individually and within the community. Freedom of availability / modification / etc are the tools to achieve that. However, just because you give me something for free, doesn't mean you value me and want to empower me. And you can't value someone if you don't respect them first. Perhaps this is all just arguing semantics, but the idea that motives matter is important to me.
  - pimeys 14y ago
    I don't understand how can Linux folks feel any respect for Microsoft after what they tried to do to Linux community a couple of years ago...
    - Snoddas 14y ago
      "They started it" - Is no reason to be disrespectful or rude. Instead they should show by example how a to act.
takluyver 14y ago
'Stabbing in the back' generally implies betraying someone who trusted you. I don't think that's really applicable here: Canonical are directly competing with Microsoft. For what it's worth, that slogan seems to have been changed now: the home page now just says "Your wish is our command." Though I'm sure critics will still see plenty of irony there.

georgemcbay 14y ago

"Avoid the pain of Windows 8." I've been running Windows 8 since the RTM went to MSDN. I adjusted to the cheese-moving pain of Windows 8 within a week. Four months into Ubuntu with Unity I eventually adjusted to the cheese-moving pain of Unity by switching to Mint. Ubuntu has no leg to stand on when it comes to new versions of an OS making unwanted changes to UX. [Before anyone chimes in here, I know you can set up Ubuntu to work with other desktops than Unity, but IMO there's not really a compelling reason to stick with it when the out-of-the-box experience is inferior to another distro.]

javajosh 14y ago
Forgive me, but I don't know what you mean by "cheese-moving pain". Two questions: first, is this a well-known term that I've just not run across? And second, what do you mean by it? (And if the answer to 1 is "no" then, WTH?)
- georgemcbay 14y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese
  - skeletonjelly 14y ago
    Interesting. Have you read the book? Wondering if I could use something out of this for clients who fear the change (be it UI, UX, process)
    - georgemcbay 14y ago
      I've never read the book the phrase comes from actually, so I can't speak to it directly. I'm only aware of the phrase "moving the cheese" because it has become a bit of a meme over the past few years in development/IT (this may be a regional thing).
    - nodata 14y ago
      You can read the book in less than an hour, it's not big.

jw_ 14y ago

Avoid the trainwreck that is Metro by hopping onboard the trainwreck that is Unity! Sorry, that slogan is a bit much given how bad the recent Ubuntu releases have been.

foxhop 14y ago

Starting drama with the competition is a good move, it makes your company/product relevant, causes people to talk about your company/product, and shows that your product/company has personality. The term "Avoid the pain of Windows 8." is not overly offensive and does not lack class.

kisielk 14y ago

Trying to use multiple monitors on an Nvidia card and nothing but pain. They work just fine under Windows.

LarryMade 14y ago
Hmm, seems to be working fine for me, have two going right now.
- scorpioxy 14y ago
  Same here. Unity had a few bugs which seems to be fixed in this release but nothing annoying enough for me to switch. Ironically, I also ran two screens on an ATI card which I bought to support their open source efforts. The nVidia was much better!
- kisielk 14y ago
  Care to send me a description of your setup? If I use the nvidia binary driver with twinview then the rendering is glacially slow. It's fast with nouveau but then I have display artifacts everywhere, regions of the screen get filled with solid blue.
xentronium 14y ago
If you only have two, it's bearable, though.
moondowner 14y ago
Use KDE (Kubuntu), it has better multimonitor support. http://brainacle.com/multiseating-with-kde-and-xbmc-like-a-boss.html http://brainacle.com/multiseating-with-kde-and-xbmc-like-a-b...