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Sadly, i dare say in the US, except for advancements in Medical, disabled vets have a somewhat rough time these days :( Probably not as bad as Byfield, but com

by jmclnx 9mo ago

Sadly, i dare say in the US, except for advancements in Medical, disabled vets have a somewhat rough time these days :( Probably not as bad as Byfield, but compared to the standard of living now to back then, probably not that different when matched against the general population.

readthenotes1 9mo ago
What leads you to dare say that?
- jmclnx 9mo ago
  When young, I saw the a few vets coming back from Vietnam, one I knew, and they were having a very hard time getting help.
trollbridge 9mo ago
100% disabled vets in America get a tax free allowance of $4,000 a month, plus free medical care, plus a great deal of support including full free college to pursue the possibility of employment, which won’t reduce the disability pay at all. I’d say America is taking care of them pretty well compared to Dickensian conditions.
- zdragnar 9mo ago
  Experiences with VA can be wildly different. Disability can be easy or hard to get, depending on which generation you got injured in and whether or not they think you're playing it up. I've heard both people saying that they were pushed to claim disability when they didn't actually need it, as well as men who definitely needed it getting turned down. Actual health care at the VA can be really uneven too. A friend of mine got a knee injury and was basically given a three month supply of an addictive painkiller and told to go sit at home and take however much he wanted. What do you think happens to a young man in his prime who is stuck glued to a couch other than sit around playing video games drunk all day addicted to painkillers? Well, in his case at least, he managed to get off of them and turn himself around before it became too destructive, but the lack of care he was shown by the doctors put him at significant risk for permanent harm. I've heard other horror stories, and stories of nothing but praise as well. YMMV.
  - le-mark 9mo ago
    I know a guy who retired from the Air Force and got 100% disability that included tinnitus, ptsd, and something about his joints. This person was an aircraft maintainer and never saw combat, although he was deployed a few times. The lady evaluating his case really hooked him up, he brags bout it all the time. He gets retirement and disability.
    - kankerlijer 9mo ago
      There are reddits, discords, and even companies that assist vets in working the system. many of whom never got close to deployment and were never combat arms. If you're persistent you'll get paid. As a combat vet it makes me sick.
      - deleted 9mo ago
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    - antonymoose 9mo ago
      Good friend and former colleague has 100% disability and coarsely brags about it. He has no combat deployments. He has a home gym, rolls BJJ 6 days a week. Has a government (tax payer) paid Bachelor’s and Master’s in Comp. Sci. and makes 6-figures working as a civilian DOD employee. So I’m not sure in what meaningful sense of the term he’s “100% disabled” but he’s enjoying his salary so good for him?
      - 3D30497420 9mo ago
        Both this and the earlier post emphasize the lack of combat deployments in the examples. I should think disability would cover any service-related injury.
        antonymoose 9mo ago
        It does, I’m just emphasizing the lack of material injury. Spending 25 years in the military in an administrative office role and going “my hearing is less good, I have carpal tunnel, I have sleep problems” now give me $4,000 seems rather off when you’re otherwise a completely healthy normal human being. After all, it’s not as if normal people in normal society lack these conditions as they age. Connecting them to the service is spurious and often fraudulent. By all means, let’s take care of the folks with serious physical and mental injury that cannot provide for themselves, but let’s be real our system is heavily gamed and abused.
- AndrewKemendo 9mo ago
  I’m a 100% P&T veteran from the Iraq war and you have no idea what you’re talking about so stop Even this bullshit response is exactly what the author discussed Disdain and contempt for servicemembers who fought, were hurt or maimed in wars
  - antonymoose 9mo ago
    Could you provide a material rebuttal instead of insulting the author? The USG provides a generous disability package for disabled veterans that are in no real sense disabled, even.
    - AndrewKemendo 9mo ago
      I mean you demonstrate exactly why that is a disingenuous question directly. So again, ironic, given the topic context
- asdff 9mo ago
  Then there are those veterans who live under a tarp on the sidewalk along the VA campus in West LA. Not everyone is doing alright.
  - trollbridge 9mo ago
    And there are services provided to them as well.
bloqs 9mo ago
i watch Caleb Hammers financial audit show on youtube and while I'm sure it's not all accurate, every single veteran they have on that show (keep in mind these are people with money iasues) who without exception get a package that would qualify as a part time salary, many get more than a full salary and often work other jobs. The system is healthy
- bena 9mo ago
  What do you believe is not accurate about it? I believe that the people on his show are real and have the money issues they claim. But I also believe that his crew select for sensationalism. You aren't ever going to see someone who the system is genuinely fucking over on his show. They will not invite that guest on. They only invite people on who have done colossally stupid shit and could be getting their shit together if they weren't complete fucking doorknobs. There are more than enough idiots in the world to keep his channel going for at least a couple of years.

by jmclnx 9mo ago

readthenotes1 9mo ago

What leads you to dare say that?

jmclnx 9mo ago
When young, I saw the a few vets coming back from Vietnam, one I knew, and they were having a very hard time getting help.

trollbridge 9mo ago

100% disabled vets in America get a tax free allowance of $4,000 a month, plus free medical care, plus a great deal of support including full free college to pursue the possibility of employment, which won’t reduce the disability pay at all. I’d say America is taking care of them pretty well compared to Dickensian conditions.

zdragnar 9mo ago
Experiences with VA can be wildly different. Disability can be easy or hard to get, depending on which generation you got injured in and whether or not they think you're playing it up. I've heard both people saying that they were pushed to claim disability when they didn't actually need it, as well as men who definitely needed it getting turned down. Actual health care at the VA can be really uneven too. A friend of mine got a knee injury and was basically given a three month supply of an addictive painkiller and told to go sit at home and take however much he wanted. What do you think happens to a young man in his prime who is stuck glued to a couch other than sit around playing video games drunk all day addicted to painkillers? Well, in his case at least, he managed to get off of them and turn himself around before it became too destructive, but the lack of care he was shown by the doctors put him at significant risk for permanent harm. I've heard other horror stories, and stories of nothing but praise as well. YMMV.
- le-mark 9mo ago
  I know a guy who retired from the Air Force and got 100% disability that included tinnitus, ptsd, and something about his joints. This person was an aircraft maintainer and never saw combat, although he was deployed a few times. The lady evaluating his case really hooked him up, he brags bout it all the time. He gets retirement and disability.
  - kankerlijer 9mo ago
    There are reddits, discords, and even companies that assist vets in working the system. many of whom never got close to deployment and were never combat arms. If you're persistent you'll get paid. As a combat vet it makes me sick.
    - deleted 9mo ago
      [deleted]
  - antonymoose 9mo ago
    Good friend and former colleague has 100% disability and coarsely brags about it. He has no combat deployments. He has a home gym, rolls BJJ 6 days a week. Has a government (tax payer) paid Bachelor’s and Master’s in Comp. Sci. and makes 6-figures working as a civilian DOD employee. So I’m not sure in what meaningful sense of the term he’s “100% disabled” but he’s enjoying his salary so good for him?
    - 3D30497420 9mo ago
      Both this and the earlier post emphasize the lack of combat deployments in the examples. I should think disability would cover any service-related injury.
      - antonymoose 9mo ago
        It does, I’m just emphasizing the lack of material injury. Spending 25 years in the military in an administrative office role and going “my hearing is less good, I have carpal tunnel, I have sleep problems” now give me $4,000 seems rather off when you’re otherwise a completely healthy normal human being. After all, it’s not as if normal people in normal society lack these conditions as they age. Connecting them to the service is spurious and often fraudulent. By all means, let’s take care of the folks with serious physical and mental injury that cannot provide for themselves, but let’s be real our system is heavily gamed and abused.
AndrewKemendo 9mo ago
I’m a 100% P&T veteran from the Iraq war and you have no idea what you’re talking about so stop Even this bullshit response is exactly what the author discussed Disdain and contempt for servicemembers who fought, were hurt or maimed in wars
- antonymoose 9mo ago
  Could you provide a material rebuttal instead of insulting the author? The USG provides a generous disability package for disabled veterans that are in no real sense disabled, even.
  - AndrewKemendo 9mo ago
    I mean you demonstrate exactly why that is a disingenuous question directly. So again, ironic, given the topic context
asdff 9mo ago
Then there are those veterans who live under a tarp on the sidewalk along the VA campus in West LA. Not everyone is doing alright.
- trollbridge 9mo ago
  And there are services provided to them as well.

bloqs 9mo ago

i watch Caleb Hammers financial audit show on youtube and while I'm sure it's not all accurate, every single veteran they have on that show (keep in mind these are people with money iasues) who without exception get a package that would qualify as a part time salary, many get more than a full salary and often work other jobs. The system is healthy

bena 9mo ago
What do you believe is not accurate about it? I believe that the people on his show are real and have the money issues they claim. But I also believe that his crew select for sensationalism. You aren't ever going to see someone who the system is genuinely fucking over on his show. They will not invite that guest on. They only invite people on who have done colossally stupid shit and could be getting their shit together if they weren't complete fucking doorknobs. There are more than enough idiots in the world to keep his channel going for at least a couple of years.