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US Places Arctic Airborne Troops on Standby as Greenland Dispute Escalates
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- flowerthoughts 10mo agoTo be fair to the manchild-in-command, the US has been invading countries since at least the 1990s.
- harrisi 10mo agoYou're off on your timeline by about 200 years. Arguably even longer.
- dragonwriter 10mo ago> To be fair to the manchild-in-command, the US has been invading countries since at least the 1990s. I cannot imagine the background (other than never reading a single word about the world between, say, 1800 and 1990) would lead someone to choose that starting point. (I am willing to credit that one might dismiss the earlier cases that occurred during the revolution as dubious for the label of “invasion by the US”.)
- flowerthoughts 10mo agoYour argument would have been much more pleasant to read without the rudeness.
- throwerxyz 10mo agoAmerica actually has the most generic leader in the world right now. Which is a scary thought.
- rayiner 10mo ago[flagged]
- nick_ 10mo ago/s?
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- _DeadFred_ 10mo agoNo, just MAGA normalizing Trump/the US going to war with Europe, and shitposting.
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- Jtsummers 10mo agoIt's hard to tell with him. In the past rayiner has written that people opposing fascism were being antisocial. He's either a troll (and very committed to the bit) or a very confused individual.
- sxzygz 10mo agoI actually believe he may be goading on US self-destruction in some attempt at retribution, perhaps, for being bullied as a child of foreign parents. He’s clearly educated and articulate, so not much else makes sense.
- rayiner 10mo agoQuite the opposite: I had an idyllic childhood in a southern state suburb that voted for George H.W. Bush twice. I grieve for the loss of that America and fear the regression to the global mean.
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- iFire 10mo agoIs that politics in the sense of conservatism please keep the world as it was when I was a kid or politics in the sense of this should happen or it's a joke?
- blurbleblurble 10mo agoI'm making a joke about how aggressive the flag mobs have gotten, of all political stripes Yes it's a bad joke
- yodon 10mo ago>I'm making a joke about... Probably a good time to read up again on Poe's Law[0], which does always pertain to attempted sarcasm in online forums. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
- blurbleblurble 10mo agoI thought the winky tongue sticking out face would signify but alas
- johnnyanmac 10mo agoSadly comes off as the kind of comment the people who mass flag anything with certain keywords would post, in a mocking sort of way.
- blurbleblurble 10mo agoOf course the really sad thing is that it was indeed flagged by what I can only describe as a brigade of ostriches, the ostrich brigade. They stick their heads in the sand.
- davidw 10mo agoAre the troops going to be deployed to oppress and maybe even kill Americans in one of our cities, or our allies? Who knows! I for one am tired of 'interesting times'.
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- cdrnsf 10mo agoThey're already shooting mothers in the face and using flashbangs on 6 months old so, yes, it seems quite likely.
- throwerxyz 10mo ago[flagged]
- johnnyanmac 10mo agoYou're not very smart if you're a year in and still covering your ears to the situation. Feel free to live in ignorance, but don't speak on matters you don't know much about.
- throwerxyz 10mo agoYes there is a situation. Most smart people also know this. There's a problem in the US but it has nothing to do with: > troops [..] deployed to oppress and maybe even kill Americans in one of our cities, or our allies I guess you are not one of those smart people. That's a shame.
- johnnyanmac 10mo agoI'd rather be dumb than ignorant. Dumb people can learn. Ignorant people actively refuse to learn.
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- 3eb7988a1663 10mo agoIgnoring the terrible world order destroying implications of this, I do have a question. Being assigned to the "premier Arctic and cold-weather formation" sounds like the worst possible posting a young soldier could get. Is this drawing the shortest straw, or do people have any flexibility in getting deployed here? For something so remote/frigid/generally terrible, do you get shorter rotations?
- forshaper 10mo agoI requested it and did not get it, for whatever that's worth.
- 3eb7988a1663 10mo agoWhat was the appeal? Were there favorable career implications? Or you personally found the environment would agree with you?
- CalRobert 10mo agoFor what it's worth, there was a period in my youth where something like this would've been up my alley. To each their own...
- CGMthrowaway 10mo ago1000%. The Alaska lifestyle has been aspirational for 100 years. "Deadliest Catch" and other shows brought that notion to the masses. Alaska has the single best fishing, hunting, skiing, climbing in the Western Hemisphere. And (like salmon canning and crab fishing) great economic opportunity for hard workers - think of the roughnecks from Landman. But people seem to have already forgotten. Now we get "Life Below Zero" which is .... a little more on the edge to be kind
- normie3000 10mo agoA lot of people in the armed forces want to prove that they're tough. Training for harsh conditions is one aspect of that. Others join to broaden their horizons and see the world. This unit would check that box too. Personally I'd love to go to the Arctic or Antarctic as a civilian as it would be an interesting challenge.
- m_a_g 10mo agoI love the new world axes: USA and Russia vs. EU, China, and LATAM What kind of shitty plotline is this? I swear, Call of Duty games were more realistic.
- dsfdsfsdfdsf 10mo agoIt was all a scam. USA was the problem all this time. Creating instability and problems. A timeline where EU and China would probably result in a more stable world... Fuck USA!
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- jimnotgym 10mo agoAnd this is why NATO ends is it, because Mr Orange didn't get his medal? Time is running out, his private storm troops are already flooding the cities of the opposition.
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- piva00 10mo agoThe US was allowed to do businesses deals in Greenland, American billionaires have bought companies to do exactly that there, it was never an issue and the Danish and Greenland governments were always open for that. I don't understand how you can defend this, a supposedly smart person on Hacker News is advocating for the invasion of an allied nation. It's flabbergasting to watch this kind of opinion appear even here.
- mdhb 10mo agoHis entire account is dedicated to saying outlandish shit like this. There’s no position he won’t defend. Just downvote and move on.
- SauciestGNU 10mo agoI don't understand how any immigrant, let alone someone visibly darker skinned than the average European, could be in favor of this imperial expansion and domestic repression. Bro will be next on the boxcars spouting off about "it might be genocide but at least it's not woke".
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- chasd00 10mo agoThis is a really bad article, they're on standby for Minnesota and not Greenland. Even the article mentions this and downplays Greenland repeatedly while still trying to plant that seed to keep the user scrolling through the ads. "The selection of the 11th Airborne Division has immediately drawn scrutiny. Reconstituted and reoriented in recent years, the division is widely regarded as the Army’s premier Arctic and cold-weather formation, optimized for sub-zero operations, austere airfields, glacier movement, and high-latitude logistics. Military planners note that for domestic crowd-control or security missions in the Midwest, National Guard units or conventional active-duty formations are typically preferred. “This is an Arctic hammer being readied for an urban nail,” said a retired logistics officer familiar with force-generation planning. “That mismatch is what’s raising eyebrows.”" it's about to get really effing cold in Minnesota. Just another click/rage bait article...
- jghn 10mo ago> they're on standby for Minnesota and not Greenland You say this like it's better?
- lawn 10mo agoFor the rest of the world, yes. I feel bad for the people in Minnesota though.
- chasd00 10mo agoNo, i'm saying that because the article wants to paint a picture of the US Army mobilizing to invade Greenland but that's not what's happening. FTFA> "Adding to the unease are unconfirmed reports of increased Special Operations Forces activity linked to Arctic training and reconnaissance." Narrator> it's Winter in the US..
- jpkw 10mo agoDeploying troops to Greenland right now would be solely aimed at seizing Greenland by force and would be a major international incident against the US's most important military allies. Deploying troops to Minnesota would be a domestic show of force that would have minimal impact, as they are incapable of seizing Minnesota for the US as it is already a US territory, so they would be used to guard public buildings (and would basically just sit around doing nothing all day).
- einpoklum 10mo ago"Greenland dispute"? That's like saying a gang boss has a "dispute" with a store he's trying to take over. Although, to be fair, the Trump administration might 'just' be planning a military occupation of some of Minnesota.
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- TrackerFF 10mo agoIf anything, I think the tariffs are signaling Trump meeting resistance from the military. One thing is for sure: If Trump for whatever reason manages to attack Greenland, there will be some signals beforehand. Like moving any and all US personnel currently in Denmark, out of Denmark. There's a good chance US personnel in neighboring countries would also need to be moved out, like in Norway. A military attack on Greenland would send the US and Europe into a geopolitical crisis.
- wyldfire 10mo agoIf he loses Learning Resources, Inc. v. Trump (the Tariffs case in front of SCOTUS) then he has no power with which to negotiate. Because, as you suggest, his military is unwilling to execute the unlawful orders to seek conquest without a declaration of war. So that might indicate some of the apparent urgency to make this happen now before SCOTUS rules. Unfortunately a lot of damage is already done, even if we walk it all back our allies will no longer trust us - nor should they.
- CGMthrowaway 10mo agoHe still has Sec 232
- dvfjsdhgfv 10mo ago> moving any and all US personnel currently in Denmark, out of Denmark Why? I mean, if this was another president and another scenario, I'd agree. But I can very well imagine Trump taking Greenland by force and at the same time leaving all American units in Europe as they are.
- johnnyanmac 10mo agoHe justified not notifying Congress about Venezuela as "not wanting leakers". He'd 100% would have American soldier blood on his hands if he felt it'd make for a better attack.
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- cdrnsf 10mo agoThe irony of Make America Great Again speed running the exact opposite.
- kccoder 10mo agoMore often than not the opposite of what Trump says is closer to the truth.
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- surgical_fire 10mo agoAt the expense of alliance and trade with the whole of EU? And damaged relations for the foreseeable future? I am not from the US. If I was I wouldn't be very thrilled for it, no.
- dvfjsdhgfv 10mo agoNot just the EU. The USA has no more allies and is not perceived as a reliable partner at any level. Sure, officially they will shake hands and say whatever is needed but in the meantime new partnerships are being created because in this chaotic world stability has a big value.
- surgical_fire 10mo agoYes, and I am fine with that. I live in the EU, and I think it will actually be very positive in the medium to long term that the EU sheds its dependency on the US and starts treating it for what it is - a hostile foreign nation. The Mercosur trade agreement, for example, is something great that came out of this. Trump finally pushed the EU to look for good partnerships elsewhere. So, in a sense, this whole bullshit with Greenland may have positive outcomes still. I am hoping that the EU uses the anti-coercion instrument against the US and their companies.
- londons_explore 10mo agoQuite a few wars have happened because country A invades B and assumes that country C won't intervene since it makes no economic sense to do so...
- vkou 10mo agoQuite a few wars also happened because people kept appeasing belligerent behaviour.
- JohnTHaller 10mo agoLink for when flagged: https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Pentagon-Places-1500-Arctic-Trained-Airborne-Troops-on-Standby-as-Greenland-Dispute-Escalates/ https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Pentagon-Places-...
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- johnnyanmac 10mo agoI've been here a while. I'm sadly not surprised at all. I can see from this community why tech bros can be seen as being more conservative than the average peer in their area.
- throwerxyz 10mo agoSorry there's a bit of a typo/error in my comment. In "nothing more than" I mean it is just drama. I am surprised people think it is something more than just a drama spat. The US will do something on the back of this cover eventually or it's just hiding other bad news. Tech professionals used to be more conservative and even more moderate but these days they've been conditioned to drink from the liberal Koolaid.
- johnnyanmac 10mo agoAgain, please read the news. The US already bombed a sovereign country and kidnapped its leader this year. And "this year" isn't even 20 days old yet. I don't know how you can dismiss this as drama when we actively have another country's leader detained. I really hope this is just drama, but this isn't something to just dismiss at this point. >but these days they've been conditioned to drink from the liberal Koolaid. Tell us how you really feel about Trump, please. I genuinely want to know your mindset here.
- throwerxyz 10mo agoYes. This is normal US world policing. Obviously the US is not going to attack European states. That is not normal world policing by the US. You remind me of the people who actually think the Cybertruck is a real thing and not just another one of Tesla's drama gimmicks. Trump is the same as every other country leader of the modern era. Does nothing, talks a lot. Except Trump has enough confidence to actually do half the prank, half the time. Which is hilarious. He's a generic superpower puppet. Yes, Greenland drama is something to dismiss. It's hilarious. Venezuela has nothing to do with it or Trump.