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As with so many other things, intent matters. Owning lockpicks? Fine! Owning lockpicks when you're caught burgling a house? You're extra screwed. Owning an S

As with so many other things, intent matters. Owning lockpicks? Fine! Owning lockpicks when you're caught burgling a house? You're extra screwed. Owning an SDR? Fine! Owning an SDR and getting caught using it to illegally disrupt communications? You're extra screwed. Yes, you can absolutely own an SDR, and transmit with it on legal frequencies. If you're busted using it to break the law, then it's strong evidence that you went out of your way to deliberately, premeditatedly break it, and that makes for a bad day.

kelnos 10mo ago
The person upthread said, unqualified: > Actually, just being in possession of such a device in the US isn't legal. Their view was that it isn't legal to own, regardless of context or intent. That's what GP was arguing against.
- kstrauser 10mo ago
  Yeah. I was reassuring the parent of my post that they’re right, it’s legal to own an SDR. You can still get in extra trouble for breaking the law with it, but it’s perfect fine to have and use one otherwise.
  - amelius 10mo ago
    Sure, but my original question was what happens if two people are caught with an SDR unit, and authorities can't prove who (of the two people) used their unit to do the jamming.
    - kstrauser 10mo ago
      Not a lawyer. My guess: if they’re together, they’d both be charged, as if they robbed a store as a team. If they’re not, neither would be charged, as each would have a brilliant defense.
      - joecool1029 10mo ago
        Nobody clicks the link and reads… they just use the slop generators, now I’m stuck having to do tard wrangling: > Sections 510 - allows for seizure of unlawful equipment (47 U.S.C. § 510). https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/510 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/510 > (a) Violation with willful and knowing intent Any electronic, electromagnetic, radio frequency, or similar device, or component thereof, used, sent, carried, manufactured, assembled, possessed, offered for sale, sold, or advertised with willful and knowing intent to violate section 301 or 302a of this title, or rules prescribed by the Commission under such sections, may be seized and forfeited to the United States. Guess what? You don’t have to be a fucking lawyer to know how to read.
        kstrauser 10mo ago
        So much confident incorrectness. It says you can’t do those things with a device that’s marketed as being a jammer. Any radio can be used as a jammer, just not sold for that specific purpose. So yes, you can own an SDR, slop and/or reading comprehension notwithstanding.

kelnos 10mo ago

The person upthread said, unqualified: > Actually, just being in possession of such a device in the US isn't legal. Their view was that it isn't legal to own, regardless of context or intent. That's what GP was arguing against.

kstrauser 10mo ago
Yeah. I was reassuring the parent of my post that they’re right, it’s legal to own an SDR. You can still get in extra trouble for breaking the law with it, but it’s perfect fine to have and use one otherwise.
- amelius 10mo ago
  Sure, but my original question was what happens if two people are caught with an SDR unit, and authorities can't prove who (of the two people) used their unit to do the jamming.
  - kstrauser 10mo ago
    Not a lawyer. My guess: if they’re together, they’d both be charged, as if they robbed a store as a team. If they’re not, neither would be charged, as each would have a brilliant defense.
    - joecool1029 10mo ago
      Nobody clicks the link and reads… they just use the slop generators, now I’m stuck having to do tard wrangling: > Sections 510 - allows for seizure of unlawful equipment (47 U.S.C. § 510). https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/510 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/510 > (a) Violation with willful and knowing intent Any electronic, electromagnetic, radio frequency, or similar device, or component thereof, used, sent, carried, manufactured, assembled, possessed, offered for sale, sold, or advertised with willful and knowing intent to violate section 301 or 302a of this title, or rules prescribed by the Commission under such sections, may be seized and forfeited to the United States. Guess what? You don’t have to be a fucking lawyer to know how to read.
      - kstrauser 10mo ago
        So much confident incorrectness. It says you can’t do those things with a device that’s marketed as being a jammer. Any radio can be used as a jammer, just not sold for that specific purpose. So yes, you can own an SDR, slop and/or reading comprehension notwithstanding.