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It's not bad analysis, I upvoted you, but what you're forgetting is that nothing ever happens. Venezuela was just typical American meddling, Cuba might happen

It's not bad analysis, I upvoted you, but what you're forgetting is that nothing ever happens. Venezuela was just typical American meddling, Cuba might happen (I'd bet against it) but neither the Canada nor Greenland thing is going to happen because it would be too dramatic for narrative continuity.

mywittyname 10mo ago
> neither the Canada nor Greenland thing is going to happen Greenland is happening, and will be underway soon. It's just a matter of how much international support it will have initially, and how the USA will strong arm support. Canada is on the back burner after the realization that a country with a leader who was the Governor of the national banks of two major countries might know a thing or two about economic warfare.
- orwin 10mo ago
  > It's just a matter of how much international support it will have initially, and how the USA will strong arm support. That's where i think France have dropped the ball with its last presidents. Any pre-2007 president would have already declared Greenland as "EU, thus France sovereign interest" and reiterated French nuclear doctrine since 1964 (One warning shot, then tactical nukes, aiming for the army/supply and not civilian infrastructure). Macron will never do that, because if you say it, you have to follow up.
  - insane_dreamer 10mo ago
    de Gaulle absolutely would have done that and more, Pompidou and Giscard d'Estaing probably. Not sure about Mitterrand / Chirac.
    - orwin 10mo ago
      Mitterand would have for sure. Coldest fucker who ever got elected. I think only Hollande ordered more people killed per year on average, but he had drone strikes to help, which skew the numbers. Chirac bombed its own territory just to show how effective the new nukes were.
_DeadFred_ 10mo ago
Our official delegation left the Greenland delegation IN TEARS, and we pronounced 'it's happening' afterwards. These aren't shit posters on Twitter, these are our officials and our President ACTIVELY working to take over Greenland.
- mikkupikku 10mo ago
  If Greenland was happening, what's taking them so long? The military could take it without a fight tonight, or last month for that matter. They want it, but can't take it because it would be too shocking for the public (aka violating narrative continuity.) If they can prepare the public to accept it then it might happen, but most magas I talk to treat it like a joke, trolling the Europeans to make them invest in defense or something. I don't think the American public earnestly believes it will happen, and for that reason I think it won't happen. Time may prove me wrong, we'll all find out eventually.
  - _DeadFred_ 10mo ago
    It is not trolling when OUR OFFICIAL DELEGATION left Greenland's in tears. This is OFFICIAL POLICY, OFFICIAL DIPLOMACY and has nothing to do with MAGA, memes, jokes. If I asked you 2 months ago 'do you think Trump will steal tankers of Venezuelan oil using the US military, sell the oil, and deposit the funds in accounts setup offshore in the middle eastern country that gave him a free jumbo jet?' would you have said 'there is no way that will happen'? I'm sick of the 'it's just Trump being Trump' when no one would treat any other politician that way. No, it is the US President, who sent an official US delegation, which, when it left (after reducing Greenlands official delegation to tears) continued to say 'we are taking Greenland'. Fuck off with 'it's just Trump being Trump'. It is the United States President.
    - mikkupikku 10mo ago
      I'm not saying that it's trolling, I do think they genuinely want Greenland at least. I'm saying MAGA people, the portion of the voting public which actually support the administration, think it's trolling. The level of genuine support for it is virtually zero. That's the reason it hasn't already been done. I hope I'm not talking to a wall here, because I already clearly explained this above: "most magas I talk to treat it like a joke, trolling the Europeans to make them invest in defense or something. I don't think the American public earnestly believes it will happen, and for that reason I think it won't happen." W.r.t "other priorities", logistically it would be trivial. Their problem is political.

mywittyname 10mo ago

> neither the Canada nor Greenland thing is going to happen Greenland is happening, and will be underway soon. It's just a matter of how much international support it will have initially, and how the USA will strong arm support. Canada is on the back burner after the realization that a country with a leader who was the Governor of the national banks of two major countries might know a thing or two about economic warfare.

orwin 10mo ago
> It's just a matter of how much international support it will have initially, and how the USA will strong arm support. That's where i think France have dropped the ball with its last presidents. Any pre-2007 president would have already declared Greenland as "EU, thus France sovereign interest" and reiterated French nuclear doctrine since 1964 (One warning shot, then tactical nukes, aiming for the army/supply and not civilian infrastructure). Macron will never do that, because if you say it, you have to follow up.
- insane_dreamer 10mo ago
  de Gaulle absolutely would have done that and more, Pompidou and Giscard d'Estaing probably. Not sure about Mitterrand / Chirac.
  - orwin 10mo ago
    Mitterand would have for sure. Coldest fucker who ever got elected. I think only Hollande ordered more people killed per year on average, but he had drone strikes to help, which skew the numbers. Chirac bombed its own territory just to show how effective the new nukes were.

_DeadFred_ 10mo ago

Our official delegation left the Greenland delegation IN TEARS, and we pronounced 'it's happening' afterwards. These aren't shit posters on Twitter, these are our officials and our President ACTIVELY working to take over Greenland.

mikkupikku 10mo ago
If Greenland was happening, what's taking them so long? The military could take it without a fight tonight, or last month for that matter. They want it, but can't take it because it would be too shocking for the public (aka violating narrative continuity.) If they can prepare the public to accept it then it might happen, but most magas I talk to treat it like a joke, trolling the Europeans to make them invest in defense or something. I don't think the American public earnestly believes it will happen, and for that reason I think it won't happen. Time may prove me wrong, we'll all find out eventually.
- _DeadFred_ 10mo ago
  It is not trolling when OUR OFFICIAL DELEGATION left Greenland's in tears. This is OFFICIAL POLICY, OFFICIAL DIPLOMACY and has nothing to do with MAGA, memes, jokes. If I asked you 2 months ago 'do you think Trump will steal tankers of Venezuelan oil using the US military, sell the oil, and deposit the funds in accounts setup offshore in the middle eastern country that gave him a free jumbo jet?' would you have said 'there is no way that will happen'? I'm sick of the 'it's just Trump being Trump' when no one would treat any other politician that way. No, it is the US President, who sent an official US delegation, which, when it left (after reducing Greenlands official delegation to tears) continued to say 'we are taking Greenland'. Fuck off with 'it's just Trump being Trump'. It is the United States President.
  - mikkupikku 10mo ago
    I'm not saying that it's trolling, I do think they genuinely want Greenland at least. I'm saying MAGA people, the portion of the voting public which actually support the administration, think it's trolling. The level of genuine support for it is virtually zero. That's the reason it hasn't already been done. I hope I'm not talking to a wall here, because I already clearly explained this above: "most magas I talk to treat it like a joke, trolling the Europeans to make them invest in defense or something. I don't think the American public earnestly believes it will happen, and for that reason I think it won't happen." W.r.t "other priorities", logistically it would be trivial. Their problem is political.