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You touched a nerve for me — folks hiking with Bluetooth speakers. My god that grinds my gears. I can see an argument for playing music (at reasonable volume) w
by mrexroad 9mo ago
You touched a nerve for me — folks hiking with Bluetooth speakers. My god that grinds my gears. I can see an argument for playing music (at reasonable volume) while relaxing at a camp site, but on the trail it’s as aggravating as a dirt bike or snowmobile ripping along near by.
- dylan604 9mo agoI've heard many people say the cannot stand they way earbuds feel. Just like many people said they could not breath wearing a mask.
- olyjohn 9mo agoThere are a lot of different types of headphones.
- spookie 9mo agoJust get the shower style ones.
- mythical_39 9mo agoI can sympathize with this, but 1) earbuds are not the only headphone style 2) listening to speakers is not a necessity. So fine if you don't want to use earbuds, but not necessarily fine to annoy those around you with music/talk shows or whatever sounds you want to introduce to the enviroment.
- pc86 9mo ago3) "I don't like this" / "I don't wanna" is not really an acceptable reason to be an antisocial ass.
- johnisgood 9mo agoBeing in nature, all alone is not social though, is it? Why are people so frustrated? What am I missing? FWIW, it is dangerous to wear headphones in the city and listen to music, but you can always wear only one side. It is not comfortable, but that is how you remain safe without being an ass.
- lostlogin 9mo agoTransparency modes, bone conduction, lower volume.
- hexfish 9mo agoBone conduction is amazing!
- toast0 9mo ago> Being in nature, all alone is not social though, is it? Why are people so frustrated? What am I missing? Let's say I'm out in the woods, being non social. And someone comes up the path, playing music loudly. Now I'm being annoyed by people again, which is what I was trying to avoid by being out in the woods. And they're usually on a motorized vehicle, even though motorized vehicles are prohibited on the path. I'm not trying to tell people how to live their lives. If they want to apprechiate nature in silence, cool. If they want to listen to music, cool ... but it'd be nice if they used headphones and it would be acceptable if they had a speaker at reasonable volume, but when I can hear them before I can see them, it's really not cool. If they want to walk with a friend and chat, that's ok too.
- c22 9mo agoIf I'm out in the woods being non social I don't want to see you at all, it doesn't matter what you're doing. That's why I get off the path, the path is a social construct.
- pc86 9mo agoIt is the imposition onto other people that makes it antisocial. The "I don't care or won't consider how this impacts other people, I am going to do whatever I want or whatever is easiest for me. If it bothers, upsets, or imposes on others, I don't care." To keep with the example below, walking in the woods alone is "not social" but it's not at all "anti-social." Listening to music with headphones while walking through the woods is not anti-social. Blasting music on a portable speaker, not caring whether or not you're disturbing other people on that trail, is a pretty great example of anti-social behavior. As is having a speaker phone conversation on mass transit, or being visibly under the influence of drugs in public, or choosing to park illegally and block someone in because you'll "just be a minute" or any number of other things people do because it makes their lives 5% easier at the risk of making someone else's 10% harder.
- fwipsy 9mo agoI can't stand the way earbuds feel. That's why I wear over-the-ear headphones or bone-conducting headphones. There are so many options for personal audio. Even if you're truly allergic to all of them, that doesn't give you the right to inflict your noise on others. Imagine if everyone decided they were entitled to play their music on speakers. The result would be a cacophony where nobody can hear their own music and life is worse for everyone. People who play music in public spaces are claiming a common resource for their own exclusive use. Sincerely - someone who's lived with 7 other people in a 3-bedroom house.
- prmoustache 9mo agoNobody is forced to listen/watch stuff anyway. If you don't have the mean to do it quietly, you can just abstain yourself from doing it.
- lacoolj 9mo agoWhy would earbuds be the defacto standard here? Get headphones. They're great, I promise. I'll even send a link https://www.bestbuy.com/product/sennheiser-momemtum-4-wireless-adaptive-noise-canceling-over-the-ear-headphones-black/J3GW2LH65Y/sku/6514466 https://www.bestbuy.com/product/sennheiser-momemtum-4-wirele...
- hamdingers 9mo agoEven fewer people want to wear earmuffs while hiking.
- recursive 9mo agoThere are so many styles and those people can choose one consistent with their muff preferences.
- horsawlarway 9mo agoI'm one of those people - I find any "in-ear" headphone/earbud to be outrageously uncomfortable. Great news - there are a TON of alternatives! You're still an asshat if you play loud music without regard for your surroundings. My personal pick? Get a bone conduction headset (ex: Shokz or cheaper alternative). Comfortable, lightweight, waterproof, you can still hear your surroundings.
- Twisol 9mo agoI have a Shokz brand two-piece headset (the OpenFit 2+ i think?) that just wraps around the outside of the ear, with the actual speaker part held just outside the ear canal. I can't do in-ear buds either, but these just work for me. Doesn't even feel like anything's there. I did try their bone-conduction headphones, but the quality was slightly worse and they didn't feel as nonexistent to wear.
- rpdillon 9mo agoSame problem with anything in-ear. I have two pairs of Shokz that I use for work (OpenComm) and play (OpenRun). I thought they would be a gimmick, but 3 years later, I love them and use them daily. Fun hack: when I travel I prefer my over-ear noise cancelling Ankers, but they're bulky. So, for traveling light, I use Shockz and then silicone ear plugs to block out external sound on e.g. the airplane. Creates a little bit of a "swimming pool" effect acoustically, but works well and is tiny to carry.
- aquariusDue 9mo agoI've been using a Shokz pair of headphones off and on for around 5 years and while they're great indoors I wouldn't really recommend them outside. Due to the city noise you'll probably tend to crank the volume pretty high (without realizing) and give yourself hearing damage over time.
- barbecue_sauce 9mo agoI recommend Koss Porta Pros with Yaxi pads.
- anigbrowl 9mo agoMaybe go without headphones and pay attention to your surroundings instead. I have zero patience for such excuses from people who choose to impose their preferences on other people.
- mrexroad 9mo ago> Maybe go without headphones and pay attention to your surroundings instead. This. Even when you are seemingly quiet on a trail, 90% of wildlife are hiding from you. It’s amazing what happens when you stop and sit in complete silence for 5-10 minutes — a whole hidden world comes alive around you. 10/10, highly recommend. > I have zero patience for such excuses from people who choose to impose their preferences on other people. This as well. Somewhere along the way, civics teachings in America’s school left folks w/ the impression that the spirit of our liberty is, “It’s a free country, I can do what I want!”, rather of, “I have the liberty to pursue happiness, up until it infringes on the liberty for others to do so.”
- prmoustache 9mo agoThis is domething I realized riding my MTB by night in the forests in the mountains. Thanks to the reflection of all those eyes staring at your headlight you realize the sheer amount of wildlife there is hidden a few meters from you.
- cons0le 9mo agoTo play devils advocate, telling other people to turn off thier music is also "imposing preferences on other people". I do agree with what they're saying though.
- lostlogin 9mo agoIf they aren’t a dick they can have their music, through headphones.
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- Tempest1981 9mo agoI found some good bone-conduction headphones... very comfy, only $35, Shokz-style. Full-day battery.
- goopypoop 9mo agome too but I had to grow sideburns to cope with the wind
- Tanoc 9mo agoI can confirm the earbuds thing. Not the mask thing. Modern jelly ended "earbuds" just feel awful. They irritate my sense of momentum, never stay in, and it constantly feels like I have altitude pressure buildup in my ear canal when I wear them. The old hard plastic first generation iPod style in-ear earphones however I have had no problem with. Gravity keeps those in place and so there isn't that constant pressure of expansion in your ears. Those or over-ear headphones are what should be recommended to people, and if neither of those options work then they're just using it as an excuse.
- kelnos 9mo agoTough shit. "I don't like how earbuds feel" does not mean you should feel free to add noise pollution to everyone else's day. Regardless, earbuds are only one type of headphone. I'm sure someone with an earbud sensitivity can find another type that works well. And if not, again: tough shit; no music for you.
- mlfreeman 9mo agoIn potentially-dangerous-animal country (e.g. grizzly bears, mountain lions, etc), it could be a safety mechanism...I was told repeatedly you need to make some kind of distinctive noise regularly so they won't get startled by you rounding a bend.
- chasd00 9mo agothose people, i've encountered them too, don't give a shit about anything let alone being safe around wildlife. If prey distress calls could be confused with music they'd be blaring that just as well.
- throw-the-towel 9mo agoThese people probably don't do it for this reason, but you're correct, at least when it comes to bears.
- m463 9mo agolol. that's like harley riders with unmuffled motors "for safety". On the other hand, I remember being in japan and watching some construction vehicles in tokyo. They were surprisingly quiet. After a while I realized what it was - in the united states all construction vehicles have these annoying "beep-beep-beep" sounds while they're working (for safety). I wonder if one day they can play those only when someone walks nearby or play in some technologically quieter way.
- ArnoVW 9mo agoIn France I see (and hear) more and more use of a special type of warning device, "le cri de lynx" that reduces sonic pollution by building sites. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BljL3XO0fyg&pp=0gcJCTIBo7VqN5tD https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BljL3XO0fyg&pp=0gcJCTIBo7VqN5t...
- lostlogin 9mo agoSadly I don’t speak French and Searching for whatever this is isn’t working. If it’s noise cancelling it sounds amazing. Can you further expand?
- robotburrito 9mo agoI think it’s cultural to do this or something.
- boogieknite 9mo agodefinitely not cultural now, imagine showing up to a hike and the person youre meeting whips one of these out and proceeds to blast rap music. its happened to me and it feels like Seinfeld but 2020s
- skirmish 9mo agoBe prepared to counter with Norwegian black metal!
- fuzzer371 9mo agoIt is absolutely a cultural thing.
- boogieknite 9mo agothis guy is a white cop and our mothers are sisters so is this white guy culture, cop culture or what culture? in my experience its nearly always college bros with fanny pack speakers. college bro who will grow up to be a white cop culture maybe
- cons0le 9mo agoYeah, you're really not going to find many people blasting gustav mahler in the forest for example. It's always pop music.