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Its only the first 50K that get 6%, still pretty interesting as being physically so close to the US could cause people in the US to get their first look at Chin
by daedrdev 9mo ago
Its only the first 50K that get 6%, still pretty interesting as being physically so close to the US could cause people in the US to get their first look at Chinese cars.
Chinese car companies face far more ruthless competition than western ones so could end up making better cars as a result, imo.
There are over 100 brands in china selling electric cars
- HNisCIS 9mo agoThis x1000, I hope this really turns the screws on the US manufacturers, they need to hurt.
- irishcoffee 9mo agoI suppose you realize the people running those manufacturing companies won't be hurt much at all, everyone who scrapes by trying to making a living work for them will hurt a lot when they get fired.
- daedrdev 9mo agoThe vast majority of US auto jobs have already been lost to automation yet I don't hear you asking for those to come back in exchange for twice as expensive cars. This is these companies own fault. These companies have grown cozy rent seeking with little competition and have completely missed the electrification of cars as a result. Cheaper cars will hurt those workers, but all of society will be better off when one of their largest expenses decreases.
- irishcoffee 9mo agoNothing gets cheaper. The bullwhip effect everyone kept evangelizing never happened. Between the housing crisis and the covid stimulus I’m not sure why anyone ever expected things to get cheaper, or expects it today.
- hackable_sand 9mo agoThis is pure propaganda. Keep doing you, Canada.
- Analemma_ 9mo agoThe UAW endorsed the guy currently threatening to invade and annex Canada. Why would I care about them? They can all rot. No Chinese autoworker ever threatened me with invasion.
- pokstad 9mo agoReally it’s the US government that it turns the screws on. China doesn’t need to comply with US regulations to produce their cars.
- drcongo 9mo agoChinese EVs are already way ahead of most western EVs - really, you need to see some of the cars the likes of Zeekr, Lynk & Co, Denza and Xpeng are releasing.
- rootusrootus 9mo agoCould you explain some specific ways in which they are ahead?
- mullingitover 9mo agoIn the case of the Xiaomi SU7[1]: you name it. Pretty much every conceivable way. Performance, comfort, electronics, styling, build quality. Xiaomi is on par with Apple for electronics and they actually followed through on making the car Apple wishes they made. Sells for around 40k, so on par with a Model 3, but absolutely embarrasses anything Tesla makes. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSusCDZcDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdSusCDZcDg
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- daedrdev 9mo agoTheir world leading battery tech is much cheaper and last longer, as they bet on the right tech compared to basically every western car company. Their cars overall are much cheaper for equivalent or better quality. Their car companies are desperate to stand out given there are over 100 of them so produce wide ranges of extra features and designs.
- rootusrootus 9mo agoBut the battery is commodity technology, not a moat. There's not much stopping every other manufacturer from adopting the same thing. And of course they are cheaper, they are selling in a market with much lower price capacity. They would not be nearly so cheap if they sold in the market like the US, so it is not sensible to compare prices as if they would.
- kavrick 9mo agoApparently its quite simple to buy a BYD vehicle from Mexico and import it into the US already. https://youtube.com/shorts/IEbl6RIJeDc?si=pNol1UkjxRwML9Dz https://youtube.com/shorts/IEbl6RIJeDc?si=pNol1UkjxRwML9Dz I suspect the same thing will happen for northern states buying from Canada!
- cactacea 9mo agoThis is entirely incorrect. You cannot permanently import or register a vehicle which has not undergone homologation. None of these vehicles have been certified to meet US safety standards and they cannot be imported permanently.
- LgWoodenBadger 9mo agoYour comment is also partially incorrect. Vehicles 25 years and older may be imported and registered regardless of safety standards or emissions. https://www.help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1100?language=en_US https://www.help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1100?language=en_...
- cactacea 9mo agoNice ackchullay there, thank you for your contribution to the discussion. It is pretty clear that OP is referring to new cars based on context but hey who cares about context.
- testing22321 9mo agoPlease show me a list of 25+ year old BYD vehicles, or any EV for that matter.
- csours 9mo agoSimple and legal are different matters. There's a BYD parked in my neighborhood pretty often (Central Texas) with Mexico plates. I have no idea how "permanent" it is, and yet there it is.
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- csours 9mo agoIt's 50,000+ users to learn from. Chinese companies have gotten pretty good at learning.
- mekdoonggi 9mo agoWith their capacity, they could perfectly replicate and improve a Rivian (popular in the US) and still sell for $15k less.
- peab 9mo agoexactly this - once people realize how far ahead Chinese manufacturing is, they'll put pressure where it's needed to either a) allow more to be imported, because people want nice things, or b) bring the manufacturing process over, like they did with the japanese cars
- epolanski 9mo agoChinese cars are good. Even though they are tariffed as hell they often come as better to European counterparts here at similar pricing.
- tracerbulletx 9mo agoCould? They are already much better for the price.
- maxglute 9mo agoUntil US bans PRC cars on US soil... pretty easy to make the case based on surveillance / NSL. Won't take much for BYD to become next DJI/Norinco.