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I hope we can at least avoid the sanewashing. > President Donald Trump has renewed his efforts to take over Greenland, and tapping into the Danish territory’s

I hope we can at least avoid the sanewashing. > President Donald Trump has renewed his efforts to take over Greenland, and tapping into the Danish territory’s natural resources is a key part of the strategy. It is not "taking over" or "annexing". It is invading. A military ally, at that. And it is not "tapping into [...] natural resources". It is plundering their natural resources. None of these hypotheticals are consensual. There is no plan for a freely agreed-upon bilateral agreement. This is about invading and pillaging a foreign land. Whether it is Greenland, Canada, or any other country.

lazide 9mo ago
We’ve always been at war with east Asia.
prepend 9mo ago
It’s not invading, yet. Just buying or psyopping is more likely than fighting NATO.
- georgemcbay 9mo ago
  > It’s not invading, yet. Just buying or psyopping is more likely than fighting NATO. Threatening to invade (which the Trump administration has been explicitly doing) is about as damaging as invading in the long run, either way we have sent the message loud and clear that the US is no longer a reliable ally and everyone has to shift away from the post-WW2 world order.
- thatguy0900 9mo ago
  If I threatened someone until they sold me something that they made very clear they did not want to sell noone would call it "Buying" and we shouldn't either. It would be extorting. Under no circumstances are we buying Greenland at this point, anything that happens is something else.
  - fasbiner 9mo ago
    Extortion is the right word here. The problem is that virtually the entire new world and much of the old world was acquired by force and threats of force that has been legitimized over time. So yes, I think this is clearly extortion and any sale that takes would be coerced. But ever was it thus.
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    - thatguy0900 9mo ago
      For sure in the future I'm sure the US will teach that it was a fair deal and nato was corrupt anyway but I hate to see the whitewashing of it going on already like it's a casual land purchase offer
    - throw310822 9mo ago
      You are also, for sure, the product of some rape down the line of your ancestors, as we are all. This doesn't make rape justifiable.
  - prepend 9mo ago
    Extorting is more accurate. But definitely not invading.
troyvit 9mo ago
While we're at it I also fail to see any strategy.
- Zigurd 9mo ago
  They are button mashing the policy controller
- goatlover 9mo ago
  Nobody is talking about how less than 1% of the Epstein files have been released weeks past the deadline after Venezuela, ICE in Minneapolis and Greenland.
  - krapp 9mo ago
    Plenty of people are still talking about that. There are a lot of people and they talk about lots of different things.
    - lostlogin 9mo ago
      If the talking gets too loud, the US will liberate and free another country. Iran is all lined up.
      - krapp 9mo ago
        They don't care. No one is punishing them for not complying with releasing all of the Epstein files, and no one is going to punish them for anything in those files. Jeffrey Epstein was the first and likely last person to suffer any consequence beyond reputational harm. There are numerous reasons why the US will probably go to war with Iran at some point (it's part of the "Axis of Evil" after all) but distracting from Epstein isn't one of them.
  - thatguy0900 9mo ago
    I don't even have hope it will accomplish anything. Everyone who still supports him either doesn't care or will say it's Ai generated.
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lifestyleguru 9mo ago
The meeting with Zelensky in Oval Office wasn't some kind of convoluted strategy, a tease, or a bluff. It was fully serious and a preludium to something very nasty. That nasty thing hasn't happened yet.
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fakedang 9mo ago
Reminds me of the allies backstabbing us so easily in Shogun 2 Total War. Aggressive expansion be damned.
1718627440 9mo ago
> It is not "taking over" or "annexing". It is invading. A military ally, at that. I do not get your point. An annexation is a military invasion with the intention of an ongoing control over that area. "Taking over" is an euphemism of some more powerful entity stealing from some less powerful. What's your point here?

lazide 9mo ago

We’ve always been at war with east Asia.

prepend 9mo ago

It’s not invading, yet. Just buying or psyopping is more likely than fighting NATO.

georgemcbay 9mo ago
> It’s not invading, yet. Just buying or psyopping is more likely than fighting NATO. Threatening to invade (which the Trump administration has been explicitly doing) is about as damaging as invading in the long run, either way we have sent the message loud and clear that the US is no longer a reliable ally and everyone has to shift away from the post-WW2 world order.
thatguy0900 9mo ago
If I threatened someone until they sold me something that they made very clear they did not want to sell noone would call it "Buying" and we shouldn't either. It would be extorting. Under no circumstances are we buying Greenland at this point, anything that happens is something else.
- fasbiner 9mo ago
  Extortion is the right word here. The problem is that virtually the entire new world and much of the old world was acquired by force and threats of force that has been legitimized over time. So yes, I think this is clearly extortion and any sale that takes would be coerced. But ever was it thus.
  - deleted 9mo ago
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  - thatguy0900 9mo ago
    For sure in the future I'm sure the US will teach that it was a fair deal and nato was corrupt anyway but I hate to see the whitewashing of it going on already like it's a casual land purchase offer
  - throw310822 9mo ago
    You are also, for sure, the product of some rape down the line of your ancestors, as we are all. This doesn't make rape justifiable.
- prepend 9mo ago
  Extorting is more accurate. But definitely not invading.

troyvit 9mo ago

While we're at it I also fail to see any strategy.

Zigurd 9mo ago
They are button mashing the policy controller
goatlover 9mo ago
Nobody is talking about how less than 1% of the Epstein files have been released weeks past the deadline after Venezuela, ICE in Minneapolis and Greenland.
- krapp 9mo ago
  Plenty of people are still talking about that. There are a lot of people and they talk about lots of different things.
  - lostlogin 9mo ago
    If the talking gets too loud, the US will liberate and free another country. Iran is all lined up.
    - krapp 9mo ago
      They don't care. No one is punishing them for not complying with releasing all of the Epstein files, and no one is going to punish them for anything in those files. Jeffrey Epstein was the first and likely last person to suffer any consequence beyond reputational harm. There are numerous reasons why the US will probably go to war with Iran at some point (it's part of the "Axis of Evil" after all) but distracting from Epstein isn't one of them.
- thatguy0900 9mo ago
  I don't even have hope it will accomplish anything. Everyone who still supports him either doesn't care or will say it's Ai generated.

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lifestyleguru 9mo ago

The meeting with Zelensky in Oval Office wasn't some kind of convoluted strategy, a tease, or a bluff. It was fully serious and a preludium to something very nasty. That nasty thing hasn't happened yet.

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fakedang 9mo ago

Reminds me of the allies backstabbing us so easily in Shogun 2 Total War. Aggressive expansion be damned.

1718627440 9mo ago

> It is not "taking over" or "annexing". It is invading. A military ally, at that. I do not get your point. An annexation is a military invasion with the intention of an ongoing control over that area. "Taking over" is an euphemism of some more powerful entity stealing from some less powerful. What's your point here?