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Whoa, I was just mentioning in another post how I have my family member install bitchat just in case for emergencies. This is a very interesting alternative. Wi

Whoa, I was just mentioning in another post how I have my family member install bitchat just in case for emergencies. This is a very interesting alternative. With a travel router, I can significantly expand the chat radius compared to bitchat's purely BLE approach. Edit: Boo, no iOS app

DANmode 9mo ago
Boo, native apps.
- Dylan16807 9mo ago
  If it's not native then we need to give powerful Bluetooth capabilities to web pages which isn't very good.
  - DANmode 9mo ago
    People said the same thing about allowing the browser to trigger the microphone and the camera. Use sane browser and or OS inherited permissions, and sane permission-promoting and gating, and it’s a non-issue. (Have you seen the prompts for Location, Microphone, WebUSB, and other “scary” features in the browser? There’s really not much room for misinterpretation!)
  - master-lincoln 9mo ago
    I don't know why you think it's not good, but it seems it will happen: https://webbluetoothcg.github.io/web-bluetooth/#introduction https://webbluetoothcg.github.io/web-bluetooth/#introduction
    - DANmode 9mo ago
      Right. Downvote all you want (native app developers, is that you? <3), the web is here, has been here, and will continue to flourish. > This specification takes several approaches to make such attacks more difficult: > Pairing individual devices instead of device classes requires at least a user action before a device can be exploited.
aaravchen 9mo ago
You should definitely read the news about bitchat. It doesnt actually have basically any security or privacy from all the dozens of independent security audit findings. Jack even said it was vibe coded and never audited.
mmwelt 9mo ago
It doesn't look likely that there will ever be an iOS app[1], unless Apple makes key changes in the way iOS works[2]. [1] https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/-/wikis/FAQ#will-there-be-an-ios-version-of-briar https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/-/wikis/FAQ#will-t... [2] https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/685525 https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/685525

DANmode 9mo ago

Boo, native apps.

Dylan16807 9mo ago
If it's not native then we need to give powerful Bluetooth capabilities to web pages which isn't very good.
- DANmode 9mo ago
  People said the same thing about allowing the browser to trigger the microphone and the camera. Use sane browser and or OS inherited permissions, and sane permission-promoting and gating, and it’s a non-issue. (Have you seen the prompts for Location, Microphone, WebUSB, and other “scary” features in the browser? There’s really not much room for misinterpretation!)
- master-lincoln 9mo ago
  I don't know why you think it's not good, but it seems it will happen: https://webbluetoothcg.github.io/web-bluetooth/#introduction https://webbluetoothcg.github.io/web-bluetooth/#introduction
  - DANmode 9mo ago
    Right. Downvote all you want (native app developers, is that you? <3), the web is here, has been here, and will continue to flourish. > This specification takes several approaches to make such attacks more difficult: > Pairing individual devices instead of device classes requires at least a user action before a device can be exploited.

aaravchen 9mo ago

You should definitely read the news about bitchat. It doesnt actually have basically any security or privacy from all the dozens of independent security audit findings. Jack even said it was vibe coded and never audited.

mmwelt 9mo ago

It doesn't look likely that there will ever be an iOS app[1], unless Apple makes key changes in the way iOS works[2]. [1] https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/-/wikis/FAQ#will-there-be-an-ios-version-of-briar https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/-/wikis/FAQ#will-t... [2] https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/685525 https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/685525