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Github's recent reliability has honestly been abysmal. Not surprised.

• ferguess_k 9mo ago
  Unless some major customers are moving away, I don't think they are going to seriously care about it.
  • corvad 9mo ago
    I suspect some companies may already be considering it. Especially with the wealth of alternatives today.
    • nine_k 9mo ago
      What kind of alternatives do you see as viable for large(ish) commercial users?
      • toephu2 9mo ago
        GitHub on-prem. Officially called GitHub Enterprise Server. You can have GitHub, but hosted on your own servers.
        • NewJazz 9mo ago
          So you still pay them, you do the hosting work, and you get a product with worse features than gitlab?
          • zxcvasd 9mo ago
            but you can be smug when theres a github incident, and thats hard to put a price on
            • NewJazz 9mo ago
              You can do that with gitlab.
          • johnisgood 9mo ago
            Yeah, at that point why would anyone choose GitHub?
          • bigfatkitten 9mo ago
            And it costs you more money than GitLab.
    • g947o 9mo ago
      Companies are already using on-premise GitHub server, if they are using GitHub in the first place. There are many other self hosted solutions which are quite common in enterprise environment.
    • supriyo-biswas 9mo ago
      In my experience companies are moving into GitHub for Copilot and GHA.
      • appplication 9mo ago
        GHA maybe, but copilot is just another mid tier player in a congested space.
        • NewJazz 9mo ago
          Doesn't stop folks from wanting to buy the MS brand. Execs are really out of touch these days.
          • olyjohn 9mo ago
            These days? lol
        • ChromaticPanic 9mo ago
          It's a cheap mid tier player. You get more tokens per dollar.
  • pxc 9mo ago
    What is the quality-first, high uptime alternative to GitHub? My employer uses both GitHub and GitLab, and while I think GitLab is better, its quality also frankly sucks. It's riddled with bugs that have just been marinating on the issue tracker for years, and the most common "fix" for gnarly bugs in the CI platform is "revise the documentation to reflect the existing (broken) behavior".
    • stefan_ 9mo ago
      It's amazing, before we even had ChatGPT, GitLab was building so much endless slop halfbaked crap in their pursuit of ever more "enterprise checkboxes". Now they have slowed right down, no doubt collapsing under the escalating maintenance weight of all the nonsense that was created, like the canaries in the vibe coding mines telling us of impending doom. Now you go to their blog, theres a banner at the top announcing "GitLab Agentic AI whatever is GA (GENERAL AVAILABILITY)" and you try to click it its literally a fucking 404 not found. That's the level of their stability and quality. Try it for yourself: https://about.gitlab.com/blog/ https://about.gitlab.com/blog/
      • fhd2 9mo ago
        Maybe it's GU already.
    • ferguess_k 9mo ago
      *Stupid question*: What is so hard about self hosting one's own repo? I get it must be difficult for a mega corporation, but for companies like us, who have hundreds of repos but only 20 of them are regularly used, and concurrent read/write is relatively light -- considering our largest team is less than 20 persons, so even if all of them are reading/writing from the repo, it doesn't seem to be a huge issue. Even for a bigger company, say 5x developers (we have about 100+ SWEs and maybe 10-20 other titles who use GitHub), is it really a big thing to self host their own repos? External applications are definitely on another level because you could have hundreds of concurrent visits easily. What did I miss?
      • pxc 9mo ago