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Apple dealt exclusively with Chinese labor prices until they were directly threatened by the POTUS. You tell me.

by bigyabai 10mo ago

yurishimo 10mo ago
I got a bridge to sell you if you think that Apple is going to bring any of their manufacturing to the US...
- bigyabai 10mo ago
  I've seen the leaked BOMs, I'm not dumb enough to think that Americans can match it.
  - savorypiano 10mo ago
    Where do you find the leaked BOMs?
    - bigyabai 10mo ago
      RedNote usually, before it's deleted.
  - cindyllm 10mo ago
    [dead]
- godzillabrennus 10mo ago
  It would be a $6000 phone if they built it in America.
  - makapuf 10mo ago
    Would be Interesting to know if it really would or not. Especially relative to their margins.
    - bluGill 10mo ago
      That depends on too many factors. Moving all production to the US would greatly reduce prices, since it costs a lot of money to setup a factory, but you amortize that over everything it produces. I don't know how the iphone is produced in China, but I have to believe it is highly automated as well. However moving a factory takes months (at best, China may not allow exporting it at all), and in those months Apply wouldn't be making any iphones, so to do production in the US requires building an all new factory which is going to be expensive. You can buy modern CPUs made in Iowa - at about $60,000 each. You can buy one from an intel fab (I'm not sure where they are) for under $1000 that is likely better. the Iowa made CPU would be a one-off made under license from Intel. The companies that do this made just enough to prove they can in case Intel fabs are bombed. (I assume this means that you can't actually buy such a CPU if you tried, but they do make them and that is about the cost they would have to charge to break even)
- WillPostForFood 10mo ago
  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86jx18y9e2o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86jx18y9e2o Apple has responded and has started moving a lot of manufacturing out of China. It just makes sense for risk management.
  - mullingitover 10mo ago
    Well, from your article: > China will remain the country of origin for the vast majority of total products sold outside the US, he added. And international sales are a solid majority of Apple's revenue.
  - Forgeties79 10mo ago
    From your article: > Meanwhile, Vietnam will be the chief manufacturing hub "for almost all iPad, Mac, Apple Watch and AirPods product sold in the US". > We do expect the majority of iPhones sold in US will have India as their country of origin," Mr Cook said. Still not made in the US and no plan to change that. They will be selling products made in India/Vietnam domestically and products made in China internationally. The tariffs are not bringing these jobs home.

Apple dealt exclusively with Chinese labor prices until they were directly threatened by the POTUS. You tell me.

yurishimo 10mo ago

I got a bridge to sell you if you think that Apple is going to bring any of their manufacturing to the US...

bigyabai 10mo ago
I've seen the leaked BOMs, I'm not dumb enough to think that Americans can match it.
- savorypiano 10mo ago
  Where do you find the leaked BOMs?
  - bigyabai 10mo ago
    RedNote usually, before it's deleted.
- cindyllm 10mo ago
  [dead]
godzillabrennus 10mo ago
It would be a $6000 phone if they built it in America.
- makapuf 10mo ago
  Would be Interesting to know if it really would or not. Especially relative to their margins.
  - bluGill 10mo ago
    That depends on too many factors. Moving all production to the US would greatly reduce prices, since it costs a lot of money to setup a factory, but you amortize that over everything it produces. I don't know how the iphone is produced in China, but I have to believe it is highly automated as well. However moving a factory takes months (at best, China may not allow exporting it at all), and in those months Apply wouldn't be making any iphones, so to do production in the US requires building an all new factory which is going to be expensive. You can buy modern CPUs made in Iowa - at about $60,000 each. You can buy one from an intel fab (I'm not sure where they are) for under $1000 that is likely better. the Iowa made CPU would be a one-off made under license from Intel. The companies that do this made just enough to prove they can in case Intel fabs are bombed. (I assume this means that you can't actually buy such a CPU if you tried, but they do make them and that is about the cost they would have to charge to break even)
WillPostForFood 10mo ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86jx18y9e2o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86jx18y9e2o Apple has responded and has started moving a lot of manufacturing out of China. It just makes sense for risk management.
- mullingitover 10mo ago
  Well, from your article: > China will remain the country of origin for the vast majority of total products sold outside the US, he added. And international sales are a solid majority of Apple's revenue.
- Forgeties79 10mo ago
  From your article: > Meanwhile, Vietnam will be the chief manufacturing hub "for almost all iPad, Mac, Apple Watch and AirPods product sold in the US". > We do expect the majority of iPhones sold in US will have India as their country of origin," Mr Cook said. Still not made in the US and no plan to change that. They will be selling products made in India/Vietnam domestically and products made in China internationally. The tariffs are not bringing these jobs home.