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Everyone in the world "supports" science, exactly the same way everyone "supports" healthy lifestyles, democracy and other "good things". The problem is that e
by diego_moita 9mo ago
Everyone in the world "supports" science, exactly the same way everyone "supports" healthy lifestyles, democracy and other "good things".
The problem is that everyone has a different idea of what these good things are.
For some, science is vaccines, understanding global warming and the theory of evolution.
Others will say that real science is denying global warming, creationism, anti-vaxers or homeopathy.
- jameshart 9mo agoAre those two groups of people’s opinions on the subject equally valid?
- id34 9mo agoNo, of course, but the issue comes in the next step. How do they put their "support" of science into practice? For some, that means supporting increased budgets for grants, education, or basic research. For others, that means "restoring trust" by adding partisan steps. "Trusting the experts is not science", as RFK said. I find these types of survey questions almost useless - of course people will say they support science, or democracy, or freedom, or increasing support for families. The devil is always in the details.
- diego_moita 9mo agoNo. And that is exactly my point: we're considering to be pro-science the opinion of people that are actually against it.
- gadders 9mo ago[flagged]
- Congeec 9mo agoSome religious groups may not support science
- dsfdsfdsffdsfs 9mo agoTo be fair, one religious group invented science.
- willmarch 9mo agoThis is just blatantly not true.
- groundzeros2015 9mo agoI think you need to update your opposing science positions to human biology/race science. Creationism and homeopathy is a tiny minority.
- diego_moita 9mo agoWhatever man... I wanted to provide examples, not a catalog.
- groundzeros2015 9mo agoI think it’s telling about the politicization of science. The examples you gave are essentially straw men. They are Media punching bags. Human biology is a topic which otherwise scientific people won’t look at scientifically and hold quasi-religious beliefs about.
- mmooss 9mo ago> Others will say that real science is denying global warming, creationism, anti-vaxers or homeopathy. I haven't heard their advocates refer to those things as science, but rather they criticize science's validity.
- diego_moita 9mo agoWell, then you didn't pay attention. "It is sound science", "be open to debate", "studies show" is the kind of arguments they use a lot. They use twisted arguments from science's language.