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I do admit to feeling some schadenfreude over them reacting to their product being leeched by others. I get it though, Anthropic has to protect their investmen
by pton_xd 9mo ago
I do admit to feeling some schadenfreude over them reacting to their product being leeched by others.
I get it though, Anthropic has to protect their investment in their work. They are in a position to do that, whereas most of us are not.
- dsfiof 9mo agoHey! It was a lot of work stealing everything from you, of course you have to pay me a premium to get access to it!
- piskov 9mo agoSeems like another donation to python is coming to mitigate this pr scandal
- digiown 9mo agoThey cannot actually do this as long as they keep Claude code open source. It is always going to be trivial to replicate how it sends requests in a third party tool.
- jyscao 9mo agoCC isn’t open sourced.
- sethops1 9mo agoNeither was 99.99999% of the content they stole.
- vntok 9mo agoAny source for this claim?
- Verlyn139 9mo agoall the scrapped data on internet?? are you that naive lol
- rddit 9mo ago[flagged]
- skeledrew 9mo agoScraped != stolen.
- mastermage 9mo agoLOL No if you didn't have explicit permision to use it for Training, you didn't have permission this is called stealing.
- vntok 9mo agoNonsense. Copying is not theft, this debate was solved 25+ years ago! Have you seen the "you wouldn't steal a car" ads? Or this video? https://youtu.be/IeTybKL1pM4?si=utZ5KjmK-C2-fFdP https://youtu.be/IeTybKL1pM4?si=utZ5KjmK-C2-fFdP
- digiown 9mo agoI meant "source available" I guess. Or am I missing something? https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code
- 12345hn6789 9mo agoYes, there is no source code in here. This is their scripts / tooling / prompts repo. The actual code that powers their CC terminal CLI does not exist anywhere on their public GitHub
- theturtletalks 9mo agoIt is available on npm but it’s a wasm file last I checked. You also don’t need it to find their endpoints, people are just seeing what networks calls are made when they use Claude Code and then try to get other agents to call those endpoints. The hard part is that they have an Anthropic-compatible API that’s different than completion/responses.
- anon373839 9mo ago> protect their investment Viewed another way, the preferential pricing they're giving to Claude Code (and only Claude Code) is anticompetitive behavior that may be illegal.
- nebezb 9mo agoAre you suggesting Anthropic has a “duty to deal” with anyone who is trying to build competitive products to Claude Code, beyond access to their priced API? I don’t think so. Especially not to a product that’s been breaking ToS.
- eli 9mo agoNo, but I think they should. Or anti-trust was enforced through some other means. Or at all really. Citing the ToS is circular logic. They set the terms and can change them whenever they want!
- nebezb 9mo agoA regulatory duty to deal is the opposite of setting your own terms. Yes, citing a ToS is acceptable in this scenario. We can throw ToS out if we all believed in duty to deal.
- no-name-here 9mo agoDo other companies have a similar "duty to deal" - for example, if Microsoft or Apple ToS forbid use of open source software with their software? Or if VS Code ToS forbid people from using VS Code to work on a competitor?
- Aurornis 9mo agoThis is a misunderstanding of the regulations. They’re not obligated to give other companies access to their services at a discounted rate.
- gpm 9mo agoThey may however be obligated to not give customers access to their services at a discounted rate either - predatory pricing is at least some of the time and in some jurisdictions illegal.
- Aurornis 9mo agoThey’re not literally blocking OpenCode. You can use OpenCode with their API like any other tool. They’ve blocked the workaround OpenCode was using to access a private API that was metered differently. Any tool that used that private endpoint would be blocked. They’re not pushing an agenda. They’re just enforcing their API terms like they would for any use.
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- throwaway290 9mo agoafter they exploited us by training without any limits on code without licensing it (including GPLed code) they now scramble to ban and restrict when we want to do the same to them. that's the schadenfreude...