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They could make it 1000GB for US$10/month and I still wouldn't give any money to a company associated with that man.
by PaulDavisThe1st 10mo ago
They could make it 1000GB for US$10/month and I still wouldn't give any money to a company associated with that man.
- wtfHN26 10mo agoThat's such an unique viewpoint that no one has expressed on the internet. Thank you for bringing value to this comments section.
- PaulDavisThe1st 10mo agoI was hoping to bring my karma down a bit.
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- buellerbueller 10mo agoEt tu, wtfHN26.
- afavour 10mo agoI'm surprised that you signed up for an account just to say something this empty
- IncreasePosts 10mo agoJust FYI you accidentally replied to wtfHN26 instead of PaulDavisThe1st
- MosuraGinniren 10mo ago[dead]
- selectively 10mo agoYou are good.
- MosuraGinniren 10mo ago[dead]
- behnamoh 10mo ago"That man" is the only person so far who's actually helped the Iranian people get their voices heard amidst government shutdown of the entire internet. Like it or not, Persians love him.
- selectively 10mo ago[flagged]
- croes 10mo agoAnd Escobar financed hospitals. The same guy could help some people and kick others in the dirt at the same time. The same Persians in a western country would be called a threat to western culture by parties Musk endorses
- afavour 10mo agoThis is a very low effort reply. Does doing one good thing erase all the bad things a person has done? If that's the argument you're making, make it.
- buellerbueller 10mo agoAs I recently said about Scott Adams: "Good things can be done by Bad people." I think to assume that humans are these monolithic, logically consistent entities is to badly misunderstand humanity. For example, Planned Parenthood--an organization I definitely believe in--was essentially created by a woman who was a eugenicist--something I definitely do not believe in.
- afavour 10mo ago> I think to assume that humans are these monolithic, logically consistent entities is to badly misunderstand humanity. I don't think anyone is doing that though. But to decide whether to give someone's business money you do have to come to some sort of decision about their net good vs bad. It's logically consistent for the OP to be aware that Musk is aiding internet connectivity in Iran but still oppose giving him money.
- evilmonkey19 10mo agoThank you!
- lbhdc 10mo agoI know everyone has strong opinions about Elon, but for $10/mo I would absolutely get this. At $50/mo, I don't have enough of a need to get it.
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- coolspot 10mo agoThere is a ”secret” $10/month 10GB roam plan.
- internetter 10mo agoNo longer available for new sign ups.
- coolspot 9mo agoI don’t think it was ever available upon sign up. I got it offered when I tried to cancel my 50/mo plan.
- shimman 10mo agoDon't worry, this is the type of project that can easily get nationalized with zero pushback if anyone with authority wanted to.
- ahmeneeroe-v2 10mo agoyes but only by a US authority.
- shimman 10mo agoYes and the seeds have already been planted by the current US administration taking various financial stakes in public companies as a condition of corporate welfare.
- mattmaroon 10mo agoThe current administration didn’t start that, see the bailouts of the 07-08 financial crisis.
- shimman 10mo agoThose were just repaying the loans, having a stake in a company is completely different. It's not hard to push that further and in more creative ways too.
- mattmaroon 10mo agoThat’s completely incorrect, they got significant equity in AIG, Citibank, and several other companies.
- shimman 10mo agoEven better, this is a policy that has been done by multiple Presidents. All you need know is an executive willing to do it as it's clearly in the President's power to dictate commerce if they can force the federal government to take equity in various companies at any time (even better if said company relies on US welfare to exist).
- talkingtab 10mo agoThis resonates for me. I do not want my technology tied to some person I consider of despicable character. Would I buy a cell phone, even at a good deal from Putin? No. Corporations have increasingly become political. Thanks, United vs FEC! So we see them taking a knee to gain commercial advantage. And as in this case harm to our democracy. In my opinion, no discussion about Starlink is complete without considering whether the money you pay will be used to profit people or causes you do not want. If you need this, then great. But I have other choices, just as I would not touch a tesla even if you gave it to me. I just am not that desperate.
- denysvitali 10mo agoApple is incorporated in California, USA. Does this mean that you're not buying iPhones either because you don't like Trump?
- mattmaroon 10mo agoI’m always amazed how much people attribute to citizens united, a ruling that overturned portions of a law that was only on the books for 7 years at the time.
- buellerbueller 10mo agoA law that existed to forestall or stop a trend of increasing regulatory capture via bribery, er, "campaign contributions"
- dragonwriter 10mo agoA large part of it is mistaking the effect of the central holding in Buckley v. Valeo (1976) as stemming from Citizens United v. FEC (2010).
- talkingtab 10mo agoHmmm. The ruling had a far greater impact than simply that law. It established that corporations have the same right to free speech that ordinary citizens do as a general principle. What is the result. We now have a situation where a candidate cannot be elected without a large amount of funding. You will need to either be a billionaire or a corporate toady to get elected. Who is the elected official beholden to? What does the elected official have to do to improve their chances of re-election? Do better by the voters do better by the corporation. This is simple logic. Added to that you have corporations and the rich controlling the media. Murdoch, Bezos, Musk. If the common citizens want to have a living wage be the minimum, Jeff Bezos does not. How willing is the Washington Post to raise the banner of changing the US minimum wage? This is a rhetorical question as the answer is obvious. And any media that are not outright owned by the greed afflicted, most media receive a substantial part of their income from advertising, they are also not beholden to common citizens. The New York Times wants to appeal to the rich because that is the market for their advertisers. That is why you see stories in the NYT about "How much second vacation home will two million buy you in Maine". And that is why you do not see stories about "How much hovel will minimum wage buy you in Maine".
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- mattmaroon 10mo agoWhile I semi-agree, they both do plenty to encourage it. I mostly just wish Elon would stop using the R word. Not enough that I’m going to cancel my plan, but come on.
- buellerbueller 10mo agoI find the Nazi salutes more distasteful than the word.
- scottyah 10mo agoI get the fight to keep one word to remain non-offensive, instead of changing it every ~10yrs. It might be a locality thing too, when I was going to school the teachers used "special education" but now I've unintentionally offended with that as well. Google says it's "Intellectually Disabled" now. It's hard to keep up, and pretty annoying to constantly be tip-toeing around certain words. I leave it to others to fight that fight, but I'd take any word.
- bigstrat2003 10mo agoI'm not certain what "the R word" is, but if you mean "retard" (and derivatives), then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that word. No reasonable person is offended by calling things retarded.
- _blk 10mo agoI agree that no person should be offended. Obviously that's not ground truth.. If we could all agree that life would be easier if people were offended less, then instead of only trying to get people to offend other people less by telling them what is acceptable to say we could also get people to try to not take offense as much when they hear what they don't want to hear we'd have solved the offense problem from both ends. TL;DR: Just be nice. Life's easier when you're nice even when people aren't nice to you but it does take effort.
- GlacierFox 10mo agoWait until you hear about what the early pioneers of the electronic device you're using right now used to think... And do. You gonna throw your computer away?
- PaulDavisThe1st 10mo agoMy concern is that man, not the many people who work in the corporations who make the computing devices that I use. It's not exactly that those corporations have an unblemished record, but compared to what that guy did during his brief utterly ruinous stint with DOGE and in his election support of that other guy, there isn't a computing device company that doesn't look like St Francis of Assissi.
- dayyan 10mo agoNoted, your principles are clearly priceless. The rest of us will just keep enjoying the world’s best mobile internet while you hold the line.
- frogperson 10mo agoThe more I learn about Musk's past, his family, his ties to the paypal mafia, the more I want absolutely nothing to do with him. Him or any of his companies will never see a penny from me.
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