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I understand the sentiment, but I'm always very concerned when it comes to AI generating pictures of children.
by 13hunteo 9mo ago
I understand the sentiment, but I'm always very concerned when it comes to AI generating pictures of children.
- amelius 9mo agoWhy? They are generated pictures, not real pictures.
- ben_w 9mo agoA lot of people are now struggling to detect which images are AI generated, and inferring reality from illusions. To an extent, this was already the case with many other things, including stuff that was expressly labelled as fiction, but I recall an old quote, fooling all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, it is now easier to fool more people all the time and to fool all people an increasing fraction of the time. This isn't only limited to fake pics of kids, but kids are weak and struggle to defend themselves, and in this context the tools faking them seems to me likely to increase rates of harm against them.
- amelius 9mo agoHow about adding a caption saying "the parts of this picture marked with a red outline have been generated by AI"?
- ben_w 9mo agoDunno. https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/598:_Porn https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/598:_Porn
- dylan604 9mo agoIs that caption going to be written as text in the image, as people will just collect/share the image without a caption that was part of a webpage/PDF the image was originally embedded.
- dfxm12 9mo agoin this context the tools faking them seems to me likely to increase rates of harm against them. Why does it seem this way to you?
- ben_w 9mo agoThe history of age of consent laws including Pitcairn Island, the observed results of sexualised deepfakes in classrooms by other students, and the observation that according to sexual therapists "fetishisation" is the development of a sexual response and conversion into a requirement over the course of repeated exposure rather than any innate tendency that a person is born with.
- amelius 9mo agoThis is a good point.
- PlatoIsADisease 9mo agoI read that in a book, in a study, they were able to cause people to be aroused by money by pairing it with sexy bits. But later, they lost the association pretty quickly. This doesn't contradict what you are saying, and the study could be like most psychology (unreplicated), but it seems the impact is minor... But minor on 6 billion people could be terrible for a few people.
- PlatoIsADisease 9mo agoI'm on your team here, no one is being hurt. Now the implications of letting people generate pictures of children....... Do I need to say more? Even then, I'm not sure my opinion on this. No one is getting hurt by the generation of the images, but they "might could maybe possibly" cause them to act on things in real life. When I was a teenager I used to make this argument for legalization of drugs. It wasn't the drugs that caused people to steal and murder, it was the human. Now that I'm older, I can imagine consequences of a few bad apples pointing to AI as the starting point.
- amelius 9mo agoYes, why are violent movies allowed if this is the argument?