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We really need to ban these things.
by DiabloD3 9mo ago
We really need to ban these things.
- dyauspitr 9mo agoThey do seem to be banned in an around 10 states at this point though there is some sort of existing stock law or something so if you ask them you still seem to be able to buy them. They don’t seem to be on display anymore though.
- SchemaLoad 9mo agoThey are straight up banned in Australia but you often see them chucked in the gutters and rivers. Only seems like they started raiding the stores in the last few months.
- denkmoon 9mo agoThe vape ban in Australia is utterly stupid though. All vapes are banned, not just disposables, and guess what's easier to discretely sell to kids from a newsagency. Doesn't seem to have stopped kids getting their vapes yet I need to import my cannabis vape via the black market.
- sitharus 9mo agoWow that is stupid. NZ banned disposable or non-rechargeable vapes only, refillable/pod-swappable and rechargeable ones are still on sale.
- robertjpayne 9mo agoThey're not all banned, you just need a prescription to get one which realistically should've been implemented day 0. Eventually it'll prove very impactful with the youth, it'll reduce the number of users and make it more cost prohibitive to be so prolific as it is right now.
- denkmoon 9mo agoYeah I don't think my doctor is going to give me a cannabis vape prescription, though admittedly I haven't asked. I don't see how making vapes prescription only changes the situation with children, which is that all tobacco products are illegal to sell or provide to a person under 18. Cracking down on the sale of tobacco to children does not require tobacco products to be made prescription only, these are orthogonal issues. All this does is drive profit towards shonky pill doctors who advertise on facebook that one cheap over the phone appointment is all you need to "feel great again" and other euphemisms, and will give you any pill you ask for regardless of the medical suitability.
- jareds 9mo agoWhy do we need to ban these? I'm not trying to be contrarian, but why do some people appear to be for banning tobacco but not alcohol? I don't claim to have all the answers or even strong opinions, but if your going to ban one recreational drug with negative externalities you should ban them all. I'd much rather hear people's opinions then ask AI.
- eli 9mo agoNo, banning disposable vapes
- jareds 9mo agoThanks for the clarification, I can see banning disposable vapes but still allowing reusable ones.
- RandallBrown 9mo agoIf alcohol came inside of little battery powered computers, we should ban those too. I don't think the post you're responding to is saying that vapes should be banned. Just disposable ones.
- tomcam 9mo ago> If alcohol came inside of little battery powered computers, we should ban those too. I too am agnostic but do not understand this reasoning. BTW let me get severely downvoted by saying that if alcohol prohibition came up for a vote I'd vote yes in a heartbeat.
- RandallBrown 9mo agoWe're not talking about alcohol or tobacco prohibition. We're talking about single use e-waste prohibition.
- tomcam 9mo agoYou may wish to reread the comment. I started the phrase with “BTW“, implying I knew it was slightly outside of context.
- Quinner 9mo agoThe reason disposables are so popular in the US is the FDA banned any flavored cartridges, which doesn't include disposables. The immense battery waste is a direct result of a relatively new law.
- tthoou34233423 9mo agoI seriously wonder how it's even feasible for these things to be profitable.
- bborud 9mo agoWell, since pretty much everything that consumes power today has an MCU in it, simple MCUs are extremely cheap. Volumes are immense. They are also space efficient and it is easy to manufacture PCBAs with them. They also occupy that sweet spot where the need for low power consumption means that you use gate sizes that are fairly largeish -- manufacturing processes and technology that is much, much cheaper than what is used for CPUs for instance. Same thing with batteries. Ridiculous volume -> low prices. (Laptops and cell phones is why we have usable electric cars. If the EV industry had to drive up the volume all on its own it would have taken much longer to develop that industry)
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- ch4s3 9mo agoGood intentions and lack of foresight often combine poorly.
- nikcub 9mo agoDid that in Australia - the problem is even worse now. Disposable vapes were a market response to banning and restricting pod vapes (where you can keep the base and just swap out the pod). Nicotine policy and policing has been a clusterf - not only are there wasteful disposable vapes everywhere, but a thriving black market that has lead to firebombings and murders.
- hahahahhaah 9mo agoSounds like they didnt ban it properly. There aren't really nicotine junkies like heroin. So I suspect ban nicotine and slowly everyone stops using nicotine sources.
- anonym29 9mo agoThere aren't really alcohol or cannabis junkies like heroin either. That didn't make prohibition or the war on drugs successful.
- cons0le 9mo agoThere definitely are "alcohol junkies"; we just call them alcoholics
- soulofmischief 9mo agoEveryone I know who vapes nicotine is a junkie about it. In fact, nicotine habits can be harder to kick than heroin. I know plenty of people who have tried to kick nicotine many times and cannot stay off of it. Anyway, it's moot, because outright banning tobacco is insane.
- Earw0rm 9mo agoIt's the habit, not the high. Kind of odd because the withdrawal is, physically, less taxing than caffeine (never mind opiates...), and yet the brain rewiring to chase the hit is somehow far more pernicious.
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- userbinator 9mo agoNo, just let the scavengers continue collecting and reusing them.
- tomcam 9mo agoI hate smoking, never smoked. Should the vapes be banned because of e-waste, or high school kids getting strung out, or what? It's not a world I know.
- odiroot 9mo agoSingapore and AFAIK Thailand banned vapes altogether. And it seems to be actually enforced. They have completely different grounds for it but still, there's already some movement in this space.
- halapro 9mo agoNot. I've seen young teenagers vape in Thailand, that's how enforced it is. They only catch foreigners from whom they can extract thousand-dollar bribes.
- allarm 9mo agoPipe and roll-your-own tobacco are also banned in Singapore, but regular cigarettes are sold just fine. There may be a different reason for the bans.
- tcper 9mo agoVapes illegal, but weed legal, that's great
- anon5739483 9mo agoIn Thailand, regular smoking is shunned by the public but vapes are literally everywhere. I've even seen 15-16 year old boys in Thailand pick up their girlfriends on motorbikes, race their friends to the food court, drink a couple of beers and vape once they get there, then ride their girlfriends home again while still under the influence, all without helmets mind you.
- swyx 9mo agoas a first step, let's tax these things. this is such an immense waste of electronics.