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The driver ran her car into an officer hitting him. Anyone who’s played gta knows a car is a deadly weapon. Pretty sure the officer was justified in using deadl

by tim-tday 10mo ago

The driver ran her car into an officer hitting him. Anyone who’s played gta knows a car is a deadly weapon. Pretty sure the officer was justified in using deadly force.

computerthings 10mo ago
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billy99k 10mo ago
Even if the person didn't intend on running the officer over, it's reasonable to assume that the officer felt their life was in danger. The person in question was also already committing a crime by continuing to block federal government operations. Anything that happens while you are in the process of committing a crime is mostly on you.
- bigyabai 10mo ago
  > The person in question was also already committing a crime by continuing to block federal government operations. You just made this up, no jury ever ruled that.
  - zahlman 10mo ago
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=obstruction+of+police+officer+usa https://duckduckgo.com/?q=obstruction+of+police+officer+usa gives many results that clearly demonstrate that willfully impeding federal LEO (including physically, as in this case) is a federal crime. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=can+protesters+block+traffic+usa https://duckduckgo.com/?q=can+protesters+block+traffic+usa similarly establishes that blocking traffic is not lawful and does not become lawful simply because of free speech protections on protest.
clipsy 10mo ago
> The driver ran her car into an officer hitting him No amount of repeating this will make it true.
- zahlman 10mo ago
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- zahlman 10mo ago
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grepex 10mo ago
100% justified. We can Monday night quarterback it all day, but ultimately it comes down to having to make split second decisions based on training and experience. Many officers would have jumped out of the way, many would have taken the shot. There is no one size fits all.
treetalker 10mo ago
Let's all remember that as we make right or left turns while pedestrians are still in the crosswalk. Query: If someone is driving a car around pedestrians, and someone shoots the driver in the head, what happens to the car?
Quarondeau 10mo ago
He shot while only being a few feet away from the car, which had already started to drive off. Why would a trained officer believe that shooting at the driver from only a few feet away would have a higher chance of improving his chances against being hit by the car (which was already well in motion), than trying to physically move out of its way? That makes no sense.
- zahlman 10mo ago
  All of this happened in a split second. As explained in TFA, the relevant legal standards do not require the application of hindsight or sober second thought. They are only concerned with what a reasonable person would do in the circumstances, with the information available in the moment. Training does not and cannot possibly prevent instinctive actions that appear irrational or ineffective after the fact.
  - empath75 10mo ago
    How does that boot taste.
  - Quarondeau 10mo ago
    Wouldn't the proverbial reasonable person jump out of the way of a vehicle that's already nearly on the verge of colliding with them? Pulling out a gun seems to be the less instinctual thing to do in such a situation. I also wonder if they'll ever find out who screamed "F*ing B*tch" at her in that moment.

The driver ran her car into an officer hitting him. Anyone who’s played gta knows a car is a deadly weapon. Pretty sure the officer was justified in using deadly force.

computerthings 10mo ago

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billy99k 10mo ago

Even if the person didn't intend on running the officer over, it's reasonable to assume that the officer felt their life was in danger. The person in question was also already committing a crime by continuing to block federal government operations. Anything that happens while you are in the process of committing a crime is mostly on you.

bigyabai 10mo ago
> The person in question was also already committing a crime by continuing to block federal government operations. You just made this up, no jury ever ruled that.
- zahlman 10mo ago
  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=obstruction+of+police+officer+usa https://duckduckgo.com/?q=obstruction+of+police+officer+usa gives many results that clearly demonstrate that willfully impeding federal LEO (including physically, as in this case) is a federal crime. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=can+protesters+block+traffic+usa https://duckduckgo.com/?q=can+protesters+block+traffic+usa similarly establishes that blocking traffic is not lawful and does not become lawful simply because of free speech protections on protest.

clipsy 10mo ago

> The driver ran her car into an officer hitting him No amount of repeating this will make it true.

zahlman 10mo ago
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zahlman 10mo ago
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grepex 10mo ago

100% justified. We can Monday night quarterback it all day, but ultimately it comes down to having to make split second decisions based on training and experience. Many officers would have jumped out of the way, many would have taken the shot. There is no one size fits all.

treetalker 10mo ago

Let's all remember that as we make right or left turns while pedestrians are still in the crosswalk. Query: If someone is driving a car around pedestrians, and someone shoots the driver in the head, what happens to the car?

Quarondeau 10mo ago

He shot while only being a few feet away from the car, which had already started to drive off. Why would a trained officer believe that shooting at the driver from only a few feet away would have a higher chance of improving his chances against being hit by the car (which was already well in motion), than trying to physically move out of its way? That makes no sense.

zahlman 10mo ago
All of this happened in a split second. As explained in TFA, the relevant legal standards do not require the application of hindsight or sober second thought. They are only concerned with what a reasonable person would do in the circumstances, with the information available in the moment. Training does not and cannot possibly prevent instinctive actions that appear irrational or ineffective after the fact.
- empath75 10mo ago
  How does that boot taste.
- Quarondeau 10mo ago
  Wouldn't the proverbial reasonable person jump out of the way of a vehicle that's already nearly on the verge of colliding with them? Pulling out a gun seems to be the less instinctual thing to do in such a situation. I also wonder if they'll ever find out who screamed "F*ing B*tch" at her in that moment.