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Generally agreed. Though, Daniel Tiger and Paw Patrol should be judged differently. Paw Patrol is mindless and addictive. If you desperately need a distraction

by peteey 9mo ago

Generally agreed. Though, Daniel Tiger and Paw Patrol should be judged differently. Paw Patrol is mindless and addictive. If you desperately need a distraction, PBS shows are less bad. A few moments of pacification may be worth not disturbing the other airline travelers. Daniel Tiger may be helpful to parents too. Interacting with children is not intuitive. Techniques from PBS shows have helped me. For example, singing to kids about trying food is move effective than a well reasoned monologue.

Auracle 9mo ago
I'm not going to praise Paw Patrol as something on the level of Daniel Tiger or Bluey, but it's not completely mindless. It shows problem solving, teamwork, and encourages being helpful.
- cheald 9mo ago
  It's not entirely devoid of value, but that doesn't make it a good idea. Junk food contains healthy ingredients, too.
  - gffrd 9mo ago
    My gripe with Paw Patrol is that everything is met with a cheery "sir, yes sir!" and then the show stops short of ever showing real challenge, friction, risk, failure, or loss. It's a missed opportunity.
    - 01100011 9mo ago
      Don't overthink it. Some of us were raised on Looney Tunes and MTV and somehow still figure out normal social interactions and do quite well in life. 40 years ago my parents had a close friend with a young and irresponsible wife who raised their child in front of a TV. At 4 years old the child could barely speak. My parents began babysitting and helping socialize her. Now she's a successful businessperson herself and is doing quite well in life. Studies on the impact of media on children are informative but don't lose sight of the fact that kids are adaptable and will overcome most kinds of sub-optimal upbringing.
      - bawolff 9mo ago
        After watching some looney tune episodes recently... maybe the world would be a better place if we weren't raised on it.
        ares623 9mo ago
        Hah, that's a fair point. Same energy as "My parents hit me all the time and I turned out just fine!"
    - Auracle 9mo ago
      For what it's worth, the two movies definitely deal with all of those other than perhaps loss.
- tempestn 9mo ago
  Agreed. There's a tier list that probably goes something like Bluey, Daniel Tiger, MLP, Paw Patrol, Pepa Pig,,,, Caillou.
  - aidenn0 9mo ago
    I'm far from being a Caillou apologist, but putting it below, much less way below, Pepa Pig is rather harsh.
    - tempestn 9mo ago
      Fair enough, my kids are older now, so my memory isn't too fresh. And I despised both of those enough that I didn't get much of a sample size! Man could I not stand Caillou though.
      - aidenn0 9mo ago
        It's easily the worst PBS Kids show I've seen, which makes it average for children's TV.
thesuitonym 9mo ago
Daniel Tiger was a godsend when my kids were younger. They loved it, and the little jingles helped us get through some of those tricky parenting situations. They're easy to remember, and the kids immediately understood.
01100011 9mo ago
Some commenters either: 1. Do not have children. 2. Have a strong support network. 3. Have their partner or professional handle most aspects of child raising and have a warped understanding of dealing with a precocious and active toddler. It's great that some folks have kids that like books and keep themselves busy. It's not so great that their parents think that is the reality most parents enjoy.
- sgt 9mo ago
  Sometimes you literally have to give them something in order for you to get something done. We keep screen time to max 30 minutes a day though for our 5 year old.
  - ckozlowski 9mo ago
    5yo parent here. Agreed. And sometimes they just need to chill. I agree with the overall sentiment. Too much screen time is bad. Kids need to get out and play, indoors or out. In our house, it's a lot of biking and playing with friends outside, Legos, Brio, Magnatiles, matchbox cars, or just crafts. But sometimes they're frazzled, out of sorts, and would benefit from just being able to sit and chill. So we'll put on something for him that we're comfortable with. Tumble Leaf, Blaze & The Monster Machines, Trash Truck, or the occasional Ghibli movie. We do not give him a tablet or other portable device. He sits and watches on the couch, we set a expectation, and stick to that. I think controlling the device is important. Keeping the screen as something we control and not something he carries around seems to allow us better control and helps him understand the limits in play. 90% of the time, we have no fuss. And it's not bad. In moderation, TV can be just fine. Often it genuinely helps him soothe and relax (Especially if he's been really active and engaged all day), and as you said, helps us get something done. Two episodes of one of his favorite shows is great to help him unwind while we're making dinner. But we keep time/episode limits as well, and that seems to keep things in balance along with the aforementioned things.
- nashashmi 9mo ago
  A tv is like a pacifier. It ruins the parent’s ability to connect with their kids.
taegee 9mo ago
The sentence that TV is generally bad for kids at that age is generally true independent of the content. It's the medium itself.
snowwrestler 9mo ago
PBS Kids has an app available for various devices including Apple TV, iPad, etc. Their website is also great. Strongly recommend for folks looking for a little light screen time for young kids.

by peteey 9mo ago

Auracle 9mo ago

I'm not going to praise Paw Patrol as something on the level of Daniel Tiger or Bluey, but it's not completely mindless. It shows problem solving, teamwork, and encourages being helpful.

cheald 9mo ago
It's not entirely devoid of value, but that doesn't make it a good idea. Junk food contains healthy ingredients, too.
- gffrd 9mo ago
  My gripe with Paw Patrol is that everything is met with a cheery "sir, yes sir!" and then the show stops short of ever showing real challenge, friction, risk, failure, or loss. It's a missed opportunity.
  - 01100011 9mo ago
    Don't overthink it. Some of us were raised on Looney Tunes and MTV and somehow still figure out normal social interactions and do quite well in life. 40 years ago my parents had a close friend with a young and irresponsible wife who raised their child in front of a TV. At 4 years old the child could barely speak. My parents began babysitting and helping socialize her. Now she's a successful businessperson herself and is doing quite well in life. Studies on the impact of media on children are informative but don't lose sight of the fact that kids are adaptable and will overcome most kinds of sub-optimal upbringing.
    - bawolff 9mo ago
      After watching some looney tune episodes recently... maybe the world would be a better place if we weren't raised on it.
      - ares623 9mo ago
        Hah, that's a fair point. Same energy as "My parents hit me all the time and I turned out just fine!"
  - Auracle 9mo ago
    For what it's worth, the two movies definitely deal with all of those other than perhaps loss.
tempestn 9mo ago
Agreed. There's a tier list that probably goes something like Bluey, Daniel Tiger, MLP, Paw Patrol, Pepa Pig,,,, Caillou.
- aidenn0 9mo ago
  I'm far from being a Caillou apologist, but putting it below, much less way below, Pepa Pig is rather harsh.
  - tempestn 9mo ago
    Fair enough, my kids are older now, so my memory isn't too fresh. And I despised both of those enough that I didn't get much of a sample size! Man could I not stand Caillou though.
    - aidenn0 9mo ago
      It's easily the worst PBS Kids show I've seen, which makes it average for children's TV.

thesuitonym 9mo ago

Daniel Tiger was a godsend when my kids were younger. They loved it, and the little jingles helped us get through some of those tricky parenting situations. They're easy to remember, and the kids immediately understood.

01100011 9mo ago

Some commenters either: 1. Do not have children. 2. Have a strong support network. 3. Have their partner or professional handle most aspects of child raising and have a warped understanding of dealing with a precocious and active toddler. It's great that some folks have kids that like books and keep themselves busy. It's not so great that their parents think that is the reality most parents enjoy.

sgt 9mo ago
Sometimes you literally have to give them something in order for you to get something done. We keep screen time to max 30 minutes a day though for our 5 year old.
- ckozlowski 9mo ago
  5yo parent here. Agreed. And sometimes they just need to chill. I agree with the overall sentiment. Too much screen time is bad. Kids need to get out and play, indoors or out. In our house, it's a lot of biking and playing with friends outside, Legos, Brio, Magnatiles, matchbox cars, or just crafts. But sometimes they're frazzled, out of sorts, and would benefit from just being able to sit and chill. So we'll put on something for him that we're comfortable with. Tumble Leaf, Blaze & The Monster Machines, Trash Truck, or the occasional Ghibli movie. We do not give him a tablet or other portable device. He sits and watches on the couch, we set a expectation, and stick to that. I think controlling the device is important. Keeping the screen as something we control and not something he carries around seems to allow us better control and helps him understand the limits in play. 90% of the time, we have no fuss. And it's not bad. In moderation, TV can be just fine. Often it genuinely helps him soothe and relax (Especially if he's been really active and engaged all day), and as you said, helps us get something done. Two episodes of one of his favorite shows is great to help him unwind while we're making dinner. But we keep time/episode limits as well, and that seems to keep things in balance along with the aforementioned things.
nashashmi 9mo ago
A tv is like a pacifier. It ruins the parent’s ability to connect with their kids.

taegee 9mo ago

The sentence that TV is generally bad for kids at that age is generally true independent of the content. It's the medium itself.

snowwrestler 9mo ago

PBS Kids has an app available for various devices including Apple TV, iPad, etc. Their website is also great. Strongly recommend for folks looking for a little light screen time for young kids.