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I do think this could only be temporary victory over the food industry by the pharmacology industry. It's only a matter of time until food additives or varietie
by reedf1 9mo ago
I do think this could only be temporary victory over the food industry by the pharmacology industry. It's only a matter of time until food additives or varieties are discovered that partially ameliorate the effects of ozempic.
- dizlexic 9mo ago... do you have any evidence to back up this claim?
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 9mo agoAs meta as this comment is, I can't help but note that parent may simply be engaging in pattern recognition.
- immibis 9mo ago[flagged]
- Drakim 9mo agoI don't know about a full on conspiracy, but it's no secret that in the US they put a lot of additional sugar into products you wouldn't think had them.
- spiderfarmer 9mo agoI was in the US for 4 weeks as a tourist, the amount of additional time and effort it takes in the US to eat healthy is mind boggling.
- nwienert 9mo agoWhere did you visit? I don't think I've ever lived in a city where it wasn't trivially easy to find healthy food in abundance.
- spiderfarmer 9mo agoEvery day another city or village in 4 different states. I won't go into everything I saw or noticed while staying there. HN doesn't like criticism of the US.
- rjdj377dhabsn 9mo agoAre you sure the difference didn't mostly come down to being a tourist in temporary accommodation vs having access to a familiar grocery store and your home kitchen?
- wtcactus 9mo agoI experienced the same, and no it isn’t. In Europe you don’t expect your bread to have added sugar, for instance. That tasted disgustingly. You also don’t normally expect sweeteners in your meat. Those sauces are also disgusting. Good beef meat (and in the USA there’s very good meat), needs only salt and maybe a bit of pepper. Not those weird sugary sauces they put in the USA. Seriously, for someone from Europe, some food in the USA is just disgusting (and it’s not due the quality of the ingredients, as those are usually very good) but due to the stuff they add on top.
- wil421 9mo agoWhat kind place were you eating at the puts sauce on steak? Are you complaining about a BBQ restaurant, they are notoriously unhealthy.
- wtcactus 9mo agoOne of those places, was a very fancy restaurant in Washington DC, with photos of presidents dining there hung on its walls. So, let’s not act like it’s not something normal there. These sugary sauces are everywhere in the USA. From low level to high level eating places.
- oklahomasports 9mo agoAll the ingredients you get in Europe you can get in the US easily
- eru 9mo agoMost of them, sure. But I doubt all of them. Just like you can't get all the different American ingredients in Europe. Hell, you can't even get all the European ingredients in all of Europe. Good luck finding all the Danish ingredients in Italy.
- bmicraft 9mo agoTruly spoken like someone who's never been out of their region.
- brador 9mo agoAdditives already added to food exist to circumvent natural protections. Small leap to extend this to bypassing glp.
- XorNot 9mo agoWhat natural protections?
- brador 9mo agoNatural protection against overeating.
- XorNot 9mo agoSuch as?
- array_key_first 9mo agoFiber mostly, but that's not an addictive, I guess that's a subtractive. But think about, say, oranges. They naturally have fiber in them to make you feel more full and to slow the absorption of sugar. Then we remove all the fiber by juicing them, and now you can eat 6 oranges in 60 seconds, which is typically impossible or, at least, very uncomfortable. It's the same story for the entire food industry. Whole foods are complex, we often zone in on some aspect of them and extract it, essentially concentrating it.
- fellowmartian 9mo agoit’s actually true and they’re trying to develop GLP-1 resistant foods by using other sensory channels: https://archive.is/N0whF https://archive.is/N0whF
- pjc50 9mo agoThis should be viewed like attempts to put the cocaine back in coca-cola. The industry may be able to get away with "our food is naturally delicious", but engineering it for superior addictiveness should be banned. Not going to get there under the current FDA, though.
- Flavius 9mo ago> Not going to get there under the current FDA, though. Not going to get there under any FDA. The FDA never cared about food engineering and never will.
- buellerbueller 9mo agoCapitalism creates these monstrous corpo-organisms, and while we have found one way to strangle "Big Processed Food" this article shows that BPF has a will to survive.
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- vintermann 9mo agoIt's a prediction. Not a terribly unreasonable one as far as I can see. If a drug can move 5% of the ~trillion dollars spent on groceries in the US, there's a lot of money available for clawing those 5% back. Demanding evidence for predictions like this is a bit... hm. Arrogant, maybe. A prediction is a commitment. We want people to make predictions. The evidence we get when those predictions come true or not. Would you be willing to make the opposite prediction?
- delfinom 9mo agoThey'll be hard pressed to find something that isn't running into medical regulation territory.
- vintermann 9mo agoBut will medical regulation be an obstacle? All sorts of laws feel like they aren't the protection they used to be.
- dominicq 9mo agoThere are sometimes truly bizarre demands for evidence. I once posted a pure opinion piece -- essentially a moral judgment on what is good and what is bad (in the domain of technical writing) -- and got hit with "source?" Me. I am the source.
- idiotsecant 9mo agoWanting evidence for random claims is arrogant? I'd say magical thinking is whats arrogant.
- capitol_ 9mo agoA prediction is not a claim. Predictions operate on events that will happen in the future. Proofs typically operate on things that already exist.
- brokensegue 9mo agoWhy wouldn't they have already been looking for a way to make their food more palatable? There was already a lot of money on the line
- notdang 9mo agohttps://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/weight-loss-pill-approval-set-accelerate-food-industry-product-overhauls-2025-12-24/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/... Here are some first steps: Earlier this year, Conagra started labeling some of its Healthy Choice frozen meals with high protein and fiber as "GLP-1 friendly." A spokesperson said those meals are selling faster than rival products making similar claims on their packaging. The company plans to introduce new Healthy Choice recipes with the same labeling in May and work with grocers like Walmart (WMT.O), and Kroger (KR.N), to market them, the spokesperson said. Nestle, the world's biggest food company, has also introduced new frozen meals that cater specifically to GLP-1 users, called Vital Pursuit. Fast-casual Mexican chain Chipotle (CMG.N),on Tuesday added a "High Protein Menu" that features, among other items, a single cup of chicken or steak.
- trillic 9mo agobowl-slop is getting smaller and is now cup-slop
- cookiengineer 9mo agoHow do citizens of the US tolerate this? I'm baffled how messed up the food industry in the US has gotten over the last decades. When I was in the US I remember ordering pancakes in the morning. Those pancakes for like 10 bucks lasted for the whole week because I couldn't stuff so much in my stomach. I also don't understand why everything, literally everything, is fried in oil. Good luck trying to get an actual healthy salad where the toppings aren't full of sugar or oil. When we cook something with oil here and fry it, it's too much if you use 5 spoons of oil. When people in the US fry something in oil, they pour at least a gallon in the pot, and call it "good food" afterwards. It's just such a reverse culture shock when you come back to the EU. I'm really glad I don't live in the US anymore. It was so exhausting having to buy whole foods and things without peanut, corn/maple, oil or sugar in it. It's like 99% of processed food is made out of waste of those industries, can't explain it otherwise because it doesn't make sense to me. You have really great vegetables and fruits there because of having enough sun to grow them locally, yet it seems like nobody wants to eat them.
- buellerbueller 9mo agoThe evidence is the future event/state/action that proves or disproves the prediction.
- cjrp 9mo agoWhy bother when the junk food industry can just lobby hard and make these drugs illegal
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