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Do corporations use my google searches as data to hire me?

anal_reactor 10mo ago
Not yet. But Google itself would ask you for your resume if you happened to search for a lot of things related to programming.
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- LPisGood 10mo ago
  Yes, I remember a friend that interned there a couple times showed me that. One of them was “list comprehensive python” and the Google website would split in 2 and give you some really fun coding challenges. I did a few, and you get 4(?) right you get a guaranteed interview I think. I intended to come back and spend a lot of time on an additional one, but I never did. Oops
  - anal_reactor 10mo ago
    I think I only did three or something and I didn't hear back from them. Honestly my view of Google is that they aren't as cool as they think they are. My current position allows me to slack off as much as I want and it's hard to beat that, even if they offer more money (they won't in the current market).
- Aurornis 10mo ago
  "Ask you for your resume" is a funny way of saying "Show an advertisement to invite people to apply for a job"
well_ackshually 10mo ago
Do you have any proof they don't? Do you have any proof the "AI System" that they use to filter out candidates doesn't "accidentally" access data ? Are you willing to bet that Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, won't sell access to that information? Also, in some cases: they absolutely do. Try to get hired in Palantir and see how much they know about your browsing history. Anything related to national security or requiring clearances has you investigated.
- ffsm8 10mo ago
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- raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
  As if any company that did that is a company I would want to work for. For instance back when I was interviewing at startups and other companies where I was going to be a strategic hire, I would casually mention how much I enjoyed spending time on my hobbies and with my family on the weekend so companies wouldn’t even extend an offer if they wanted someone “passionate” who would work 60 hours a week and be on call.
  - two_tasty 10mo ago
    I certainly understand this perspective. But is it really so hard to imagine a world where your individual choice to "opt-out" or work for companies that don't use that info is a massive detriment to your individual life? It doesn't have to be every single company doing it for you to have no _practical_ choice about it (if you want to make market rate for your services.)
    - raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
      I live my life by the “Ben Kenobi” principal. I’m 51, when things go completely to shit, I’ll just go out and live as a hermit somewhere.
      - ares623 10mo ago
        Ah the ol’ “fuck you got mine” approach
        raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
        Exactly what am I suppose to do? I vote for politicians who talk about universal healthcare, universal child care, public funding of college education and trade schools etc. But the country and the people who could most benefit from it are more concerned with whatever fake outrage Fox News comes up with an anti woke something or the other. So yeah, if this is the country America wants, I’m over it. I’ve done my bid. While other people talk about leaving the country, we are seriously doing research and we are going to spend a month and a half outside of the US this year and I’ve already looked at residency requirements in a couple of countries after retirement including the one we are going to in a month and a half.
smsm42 10mo ago
Probably not directly, that would be too vulnerable. But they could hire a background check company, that could pay a data aggregator to check if you searched for some forbidden words, and then feed the results into a threat model...
Aurornis 10mo ago
I'm kind of amazed that so many people in this comment section believe their Google searches and ChatGPT conversations are being sold and used. Under this conspiracy theory they'd have to be available for sale somewhere, right? Yet no journalist has ever picked up the story? Nobody has ever come out and whistleblown that their company was buying Google searches and denying applicants for searching for naughty words?
- nyrikki 10mo ago
  Google "doesn't sell your data" but RTB leaks that info, and the reason no one is called out for "buying Google searches and denying applicants for searching for naughty words" is because it is trivial to make legal. It is well documented in many many places, people just don't care. Google can claim that it doesn’t sell your data, but if you think that the data about your searches isn't being sold, here is just a small selection of real sources. https://www.iccl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Mass-data-breach-of-Europe-and-US-data-1.pdf https://www.iccl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Mass-data-bre... And it isn't paranoia, consumer surveillance is a very real problem, and one of the few paths to profitability for OpenAI. https://techpolicy.sanford.duke.edu/data-brokers-and-the-sale-of-americans-mental-health-data/ https://techpolicy.sanford.duke.edu/data-brokers-and-the-sal... https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/data_brokers_and_security_20-01-2020.pdf https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/data_brokers_and_sec... https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/26AmendedComplaint%28unsealed%29.pdf https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/26AmendedCompla... https://epic.org/a-health-privacy-check-up-how-unfair-modern-business-practices-can-leave-you-under-informed-and-your-most-sensitive-data-ripe-for-collection-and-sale/ https://epic.org/a-health-privacy-check-up-how-unfair-modern...
  - Aurornis 10mo ago
    > and the reason no one is called out for "buying Google searches and denying applicants for searching for naughty words" is because it is trivial to make legal. Citation needed for a claim of this magnitude. > It is well documented in many many places, people just don't care. Yes, please share documentation of companies buying search data and rejecting candidates for it. Like most conspiracy theories, there are a lot of statements about this happening and being documented but the documentation never arrives.
Aurornis 10mo ago
No they do not. Anyone who has worked in hiring for any big company knows how much goes into ensuring hiring processes don't accidentally touch anything that could be construed as illegal discrimination. Employees are trained, policies and procedures are documented, and anyone who even accidentally says or does anything that comes too close to possibly running afoul of hiring laws will find themselves involved with HR. The idea that these same companies also have a group of people buying private search information or ChatGPT conversations for individual applicants from somewhere (which nobody can link to) and then secretly making hiring decisions based on what they find is silly. The arguments come with the usual array of conspiracy theory defenses, like the "How can you prove it's not happening" or the claims that it's well documented that it's happening but nobody can link to that documentation.
- cindyllm 10mo ago
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Not yet. But Google itself would ask you for your resume if you happened to search for a lot of things related to programming.

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LPisGood 10mo ago
Yes, I remember a friend that interned there a couple times showed me that. One of them was “list comprehensive python” and the Google website would split in 2 and give you some really fun coding challenges. I did a few, and you get 4(?) right you get a guaranteed interview I think. I intended to come back and spend a lot of time on an additional one, but I never did. Oops
- anal_reactor 10mo ago
  I think I only did three or something and I didn't hear back from them. Honestly my view of Google is that they aren't as cool as they think they are. My current position allows me to slack off as much as I want and it's hard to beat that, even if they offer more money (they won't in the current market).
Aurornis 10mo ago
"Ask you for your resume" is a funny way of saying "Show an advertisement to invite people to apply for a job"

well_ackshually 10mo ago

Do you have any proof they don't? Do you have any proof the "AI System" that they use to filter out candidates doesn't "accidentally" access data ? Are you willing to bet that Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, won't sell access to that information? Also, in some cases: they absolutely do. Try to get hired in Palantir and see how much they know about your browsing history. Anything related to national security or requiring clearances has you investigated.

ffsm8 10mo ago
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raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
As if any company that did that is a company I would want to work for. For instance back when I was interviewing at startups and other companies where I was going to be a strategic hire, I would casually mention how much I enjoyed spending time on my hobbies and with my family on the weekend so companies wouldn’t even extend an offer if they wanted someone “passionate” who would work 60 hours a week and be on call.
- two_tasty 10mo ago
  I certainly understand this perspective. But is it really so hard to imagine a world where your individual choice to "opt-out" or work for companies that don't use that info is a massive detriment to your individual life? It doesn't have to be every single company doing it for you to have no _practical_ choice about it (if you want to make market rate for your services.)
  - raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
    I live my life by the “Ben Kenobi” principal. I’m 51, when things go completely to shit, I’ll just go out and live as a hermit somewhere.
    - ares623 10mo ago
      Ah the ol’ “fuck you got mine” approach
      - raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
        Exactly what am I suppose to do? I vote for politicians who talk about universal healthcare, universal child care, public funding of college education and trade schools etc. But the country and the people who could most benefit from it are more concerned with whatever fake outrage Fox News comes up with an anti woke something or the other. So yeah, if this is the country America wants, I’m over it. I’ve done my bid. While other people talk about leaving the country, we are seriously doing research and we are going to spend a month and a half outside of the US this year and I’ve already looked at residency requirements in a couple of countries after retirement including the one we are going to in a month and a half.

smsm42 10mo ago

Probably not directly, that would be too vulnerable. But they could hire a background check company, that could pay a data aggregator to check if you searched for some forbidden words, and then feed the results into a threat model...

Aurornis 10mo ago

I'm kind of amazed that so many people in this comment section believe their Google searches and ChatGPT conversations are being sold and used. Under this conspiracy theory they'd have to be available for sale somewhere, right? Yet no journalist has ever picked up the story? Nobody has ever come out and whistleblown that their company was buying Google searches and denying applicants for searching for naughty words?

nyrikki 10mo ago
Google "doesn't sell your data" but RTB leaks that info, and the reason no one is called out for "buying Google searches and denying applicants for searching for naughty words" is because it is trivial to make legal. It is well documented in many many places, people just don't care. Google can claim that it doesn’t sell your data, but if you think that the data about your searches isn't being sold, here is just a small selection of real sources. https://www.iccl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Mass-data-breach-of-Europe-and-US-data-1.pdf https://www.iccl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Mass-data-bre... And it isn't paranoia, consumer surveillance is a very real problem, and one of the few paths to profitability for OpenAI. https://techpolicy.sanford.duke.edu/data-brokers-and-the-sale-of-americans-mental-health-data/ https://techpolicy.sanford.duke.edu/data-brokers-and-the-sal... https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/data_brokers_and_security_20-01-2020.pdf https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/data_brokers_and_sec... https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/26AmendedComplaint%28unsealed%29.pdf https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/26AmendedCompla... https://epic.org/a-health-privacy-check-up-how-unfair-modern-business-practices-can-leave-you-under-informed-and-your-most-sensitive-data-ripe-for-collection-and-sale/ https://epic.org/a-health-privacy-check-up-how-unfair-modern...
- Aurornis 10mo ago
  > and the reason no one is called out for "buying Google searches and denying applicants for searching for naughty words" is because it is trivial to make legal. Citation needed for a claim of this magnitude. > It is well documented in many many places, people just don't care. Yes, please share documentation of companies buying search data and rejecting candidates for it. Like most conspiracy theories, there are a lot of statements about this happening and being documented but the documentation never arrives.

Aurornis 10mo ago

No they do not. Anyone who has worked in hiring for any big company knows how much goes into ensuring hiring processes don't accidentally touch anything that could be construed as illegal discrimination. Employees are trained, policies and procedures are documented, and anyone who even accidentally says or does anything that comes too close to possibly running afoul of hiring laws will find themselves involved with HR. The idea that these same companies also have a group of people buying private search information or ChatGPT conversations for individual applicants from somewhere (which nobody can link to) and then secretly making hiring decisions based on what they find is silly. The arguments come with the usual array of conspiracy theory defenses, like the "How can you prove it's not happening" or the claims that it's well documented that it's happening but nobody can link to that documentation.

cindyllm 10mo ago
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