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into complete autocracy & dictatorship....ummm you mean a democratically elected president & government? Plus these hyperboles don't really resonate anymore as

by nxm 9mo ago

into complete autocracy & dictatorship....ummm you mean a democratically elected president & government? Plus these hyperboles don't really resonate anymore as they've been used for every little thing people don't like. It's still a democracy even if you don't like the outcome.

scrollaway 9mo ago
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- amarcheschi 9mo ago
  Mussolini introduced women suffrage, I'm not joking. However, a few months after he deleted elections
  - scrollaway 9mo ago
    Reminds me of that time I implemented multithreading in an app we shut down a month later.
  - andsoitis 9mo ago
    > Mussolini introduced women suffrage, I'm not joking. No single person introduced women suffrage. It emerged through independent movements across different countries. That said, it is generally accepted that New Zealand (1893) was the first self-governing country to grant women the right to vote nationally. Key figure: Kate Sheppard. Earlier partial or local suffrage: Sweden 1718 - 1772 (limited), US 1869 (Wyoming territory). Key global leaders of women suffrage: UK - Emmeline Pankhurst, US - Susan B Anthony, Elizabeth C Stanton (results in 19th Amendment) Global timeline: 1893 New Zealand, 1902 Australia (with racial exceptions), 1913 - 1918 Nordics, 1918 - 1920 UK and US, 1945-1960s Much of Asia, Africa, and Middle East, 1971 Switzerland!
- mattmaroon 9mo ago
  “ The most famous dictatorship of the previous century was also democratically elected.” And how did it go from a democracy to a dictatorship? Because he convinced the people to give up their rights in response to a perceived threat.
  - saubeidl 9mo ago
    No, actually, through a campaign of propaganda that wasn't stopped. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung Goebbels himself remarked how stupid the institutions were for granting them freedom of speech: > When our enemies say: well, we gave you the freedom of opinion back then- yeah, you gave it to us, that's in no way evidence that we should return the favor! Your stupidity shall not be contagious! That you granted it to us is evidence of how dumb you are! -- Joseph Goebbels, 1935
    - marcosdumay 9mo ago
      > propaganda that wasn't stopped That's a really misleading way to say it. Because they took charge of the entire structure aimed at stopping propaganda, and used it to amplify theirs. The more laws and government agencies Germany had to fight propaganda, the easier time the Nazis would have had.
  - scrollaway 9mo ago
    It took many steps, not just a convenient on-topic one. And among those many steps, the US has taken most of them at this stage.
- yostrovs 9mo ago
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  - csoups14 9mo ago
    > That's what it was Fake electors plot, Georgia phone call to "find 11600 votes". You seem convinced that he just talks, we have ample evidence that isn't true. > Even if they took over Congress, would that need they would be the new Congress? You really believe that? I was unaware conspiracies are only illegal if they succeed.
- GoblinSlayer 9mo ago
  >USA currently threatening to seize land from a sovereign EU nation with pro-MAGAs justifying it at every step That EU nation can join NATO to prevent it.
  - scrollaway 9mo ago
    Denmark already is in NATO, smartypants.

by nxm 9mo ago

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amarcheschi 9mo ago
Mussolini introduced women suffrage, I'm not joking. However, a few months after he deleted elections
- scrollaway 9mo ago
  Reminds me of that time I implemented multithreading in an app we shut down a month later.
- andsoitis 9mo ago
  > Mussolini introduced women suffrage, I'm not joking. No single person introduced women suffrage. It emerged through independent movements across different countries. That said, it is generally accepted that New Zealand (1893) was the first self-governing country to grant women the right to vote nationally. Key figure: Kate Sheppard. Earlier partial or local suffrage: Sweden 1718 - 1772 (limited), US 1869 (Wyoming territory). Key global leaders of women suffrage: UK - Emmeline Pankhurst, US - Susan B Anthony, Elizabeth C Stanton (results in 19th Amendment) Global timeline: 1893 New Zealand, 1902 Australia (with racial exceptions), 1913 - 1918 Nordics, 1918 - 1920 UK and US, 1945-1960s Much of Asia, Africa, and Middle East, 1971 Switzerland!
mattmaroon 9mo ago
“ The most famous dictatorship of the previous century was also democratically elected.” And how did it go from a democracy to a dictatorship? Because he convinced the people to give up their rights in response to a perceived threat.
- saubeidl 9mo ago
  No, actually, through a campaign of propaganda that wasn't stopped. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung Goebbels himself remarked how stupid the institutions were for granting them freedom of speech: > When our enemies say: well, we gave you the freedom of opinion back then- yeah, you gave it to us, that's in no way evidence that we should return the favor! Your stupidity shall not be contagious! That you granted it to us is evidence of how dumb you are! -- Joseph Goebbels, 1935
  - marcosdumay 9mo ago
    > propaganda that wasn't stopped That's a really misleading way to say it. Because they took charge of the entire structure aimed at stopping propaganda, and used it to amplify theirs. The more laws and government agencies Germany had to fight propaganda, the easier time the Nazis would have had.
- scrollaway 9mo ago
  It took many steps, not just a convenient on-topic one. And among those many steps, the US has taken most of them at this stage.
yostrovs 9mo ago
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- scrollaway 9mo ago
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- csoups14 9mo ago
  > That's what it was Fake electors plot, Georgia phone call to "find 11600 votes". You seem convinced that he just talks, we have ample evidence that isn't true. > Even if they took over Congress, would that need they would be the new Congress? You really believe that? I was unaware conspiracies are only illegal if they succeed.
GoblinSlayer 9mo ago
>USA currently threatening to seize land from a sovereign EU nation with pro-MAGAs justifying it at every step That EU nation can join NATO to prevent it.
- scrollaway 9mo ago
  Denmark already is in NATO, smartypants.