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A person praising Vance and Musk obviously doesn't value due process, judicial oversight and ultimately decency.
by gkoz 10mo ago
A person praising Vance and Musk obviously doesn't value due process, judicial oversight and ultimately decency.
- financetechbro 10mo agoHis argument of “free speech” has zero meaning when “shouting out” JDV and Elon. What a joke of a CEO
- selfmodruntime 10mo agoAnd yet this is the only thing people seem to focus on in a discussion about a government agency without any of those attributes.
- goshx 10mo agoI agree. Musk calls for "free speech" while censoring his own AI and manipulating elections. There goes my respect for this CEO.
- Hamuko 10mo agoMaybe the free speech he was thinking of was Grok dressing people in microbikinis. I think that's Elon's favourite free speech too.
- Dylan16807 10mo agoPlease don't make everything into us versus them. Also that paragraph is very critical as far as praise goes.
- NicuCalcea 10mo ago> don't make everything into us versus them Why not? There are real people out there who wish us harm, are we supposed to just take it?
- Dylan16807 10mo agoRejecting the system, everyone in it, and everyone that's willing to interact with it, is not a way to get good outcomes. No don't "just take it" but encouraging one of the good opinions of the vice president is fine.
- NicuCalcea 10mo agoI disagree, some systems are so bad they need to be rejected outright. As a European, I find asking for the help of Vance and Musk as hostile, even if the person asking is in the right.
- reassess_blind 10mo agoWhat would you have them do instead? Honest question.
- staplers 10mo agoIf an actor asked Harvey Weinstein for help, I would think less of them. End of story.
- speedgoose 10mo agoNot ping them?
- luke5441 10mo agoAt the very least don't complain about it publicly. Using diplomatic channels I think things like this can quietly go away. But if you make it an issue in the public court of opinion people usually support their own democratically elected government compared to the increasingly hostile foreign regime.
- NicuCalcea 10mo agoThere are legal avenues in any jurisdiction to contest decisions that you believe are unfair. Running to the (vice-)president and your oligarch friends is just weak and makes you look like the bully.
- oaiey 10mo agoYou are right. But there is a point here that international harmonization and compromise is a solution here. Which is not exactly a strength of an America First policy.
- pelorat 10mo agoElon/Thiel/Miller are the de-factory leaders of your country, and Trump and Vance are their puppets.
- g947o 10mo agoThe "free speech" argument worked in his favor this time, so... Let's see if he still uses this card the next time something inconvenient comes up.
- davidguetta 10mo agoOn the other hand, ad hominem arguments are never a mark of intelligent thinking.