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Grok turns off image generator for most after outcry over sexualised AI imagery
- drcongo 10mo agoWilling to bet he got threats from Apple and Google (well, Apple at least) that the CSAM app formerly known as Twitter would be removed from the App Store.
- pjc50 10mo agoEveryone else just gets deleted instantly with nowhere to call. Twitter has long had favourable treatment despite the "adult content" rules of the app stores.
- duxup 10mo agoAll the big companies give each other so much extra room to operate. Facebook’s practices would have gotten any other dev banned from all stores long ago. Meanwhile any other devs are under a different microscope / standard.
- rchaud 10mo agoThe walled garden never claimed to offer equal treatment under its laws.
- neko_ranger 10mo ago>Twitter has long had favourable treatment despite the "adult content" rules of the app stores. Reddit as well
- fortranfiend 10mo agoHmm it just let me put Keir Starmer in a bikini.
- westpfelia 10mo agoNow only paying Grok subscribers can make CSAM. Super cool.
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- nickmyersdt 10mo agoTherefore we know that a proportion of paying grok subscribers will cause harm to real victims. This isn't an abstract debate about free expression. Non-consensual intimate imagery harms real people. CSAM normalizes and facilitates abuse of real children. Grok, and everyone involved in it or similar endeavours, facilitate abuse.
- literalAardvark 10mo agoPaying subscribers are trivial to track down and convict if they're making CSAM. In a way, leaving it open as a honeypot is the best action.
- janice1999 10mo agoDoubtful. The first thing Musk did was fire the safety team at Twitter.
- Urahandystar 10mo agoTook them long enough, This was predictable and dangerous. It's a real shame because Elon's goals of allowing an unrestricted AI are somewhat noble even if the execution is haphazard and horrendous. The combination of X's userbase and that technology made this almost inevitable.
- nickmyersdt 10mo agoThe goal itself is flawed, not just the execution. If you build a system explicitly designed to have no content boundaries, and it produces CSAM, that's not a failure of execution - that's the system working as designed. You don't get credit for noble intentions when the outcome was entirely foreseeable. Deciding to place no limits on what an AI will generate is itself a value judgment. It's choosing to enable every possible use, including the worst ones. That's not principled neutrality; it's moral abdication dressed up as libertarianism.
- maplethorpe 10mo ago> It's a real shame because Elon's goals of allowing an unrestricted AI are somewhat noble When I was young it was considered improper to scrape too much data from the web. We would even set delays between requests, so as not to be rude internet citizens. Now, it's considered noble to scrape all the world's data as fast as possible, without permission, and without any thought as to the legality the material, and then feed that data into your machine (without which the machine could not function) and use it to enrich yourself, while removing our ability to trust that an image was created by a human in some way (an ability that we have all possessed for hundreds of thousands of years -- from cave painting to creative coding -- and which has now been permanently and irrevocably destroyed).
- bakies 10mo agoJust like his guise of "Platform of Free Speech" this is an intentional marketing tool and not at all his nobility.
- ben_w 10mo ago> It's a real shame because Elon's goals of allowing an unrestricted AI are somewhat noble Are those goals noble? This is the same guy who also said "with AI we are summoning the demon" and whose self-justification for getting a trillion dollar Tesla bonus deal involved the phrase "robot army"?
- Havoc 10mo agoProbably one of the most weak ass responses to a crisis ever. How was this not done within hours? Or if they can’t manage that at least within hours of it hitting mainstream news
- pjc50 10mo agoCrisis? It was an intentional product launch. They assumed they'd be able to "get away with it" and that media outrage would not translate into effective legal action.
- praptak 10mo agoThey first tried to manage it by putting the blame 100% on their pedophile users and obviously absolving themselves of any reponsibility (cue tired analogies with knife makers not responsible for stabbings). Fortunately this narration did not catch traction.
- close04 10mo ago> cue tired analogies with knife makers not responsible for stabbings The knife maker will be in hot water if you ask them for a knife and you're very specific about how you'll break the law with it, and they just give it to you and do nothing else about it (equivalent to the prompt telling the LLM exactly the illegal thing you want). Even more if the knife they made is illegal, an automatic knife or a dagger (equivalent to the model containing the necessary information to create CSAM).
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- nicbou 10mo agoI know that this sort of behaviour is normal and rewarded online, but damn. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule1.html http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule1.html
- moralestapia 10mo agoElaborate?
- nicbou 10mo agoDunking on people like that is mean
- pjc50 10mo agoPresumably in response to https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/01/08/musks-x-could-be-banned-in-britain-over-ai-chatbot-row/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/01/08/musks-x-coul... and others. I've seen a claim that Spain is referring X for prosecution over this as well. It's just been restricted to paying customers, and that decision could be driven as much by cost as by outrage. Edit: may also be linked to people making deepfakes of Renee Good, the woman murdered by US authorities in Minneapolis.
- richsouth 10mo agoSo only PAYING customers can make CSAM and distribute it openly. Nice one.
- rsynnott 10mo ago> Edit: may also be linked to people making deepfakes of Renee Good, the woman murdered by US authorities in Minneapolis. Bloody hell, what the hell is wrong with people?
- onetokeoverthe 10mo ago[dead]
- pjc50 10mo agoCulture war.
- kyleee 10mo ago
- DataDaemon 10mo agoToo late, let's wait for another 120M from EU.
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- DANmode 10mo ago1) Gateway-drug theory. 2) Inability to differentiate between real and fake - less theoretical.
- usrnm 10mo agoThat's the same argument used for banning video games. By killing monsters on the screen you somehow become more violent in real life. Which is comlete bullshit
- admash 10mo agoThe difference being that sexuality is typically considered an innate desire, whilst the desire to commit violence is not. Plus, we as a species have a biological imperative to protect our offspring, but apparently an immense capacity to ignore violence committed against others.
- scotty79 10mo agoAvailability of pornography correlates with people having less sex not more on average.
- mrbombastic 10mo agoSure but there have also been numerous studies that it does affect sexual behavior and expectations for those that do have sex
- scotty79 10mo agoMonkey see. Monkey do. Nothing surprising here. Once people decide to do something then they model their actions on what they've seen. Even for such innate and strong desires. So completely hands off approach, leaving it to market forces, might not be the best course of action. But banning doesn't seem like a golden bullet either.
- ChoGGi 10mo agoOh okay, so only a few pedophiles will have access to Elon Musk's pedophile picture generator? "Random Braveheart quote" Unless you use the grok app... "Random Matrix quote" I'll take those downvotes and see myself out.
- dragonwriter 10mo agoMore accurate: “After free demo proves demand (in the worst possible way), Grok makes image generation and editing a paid-only feature”.
- hsitty 10mo agoYou cannot generate anything meaningful on the paid version. Everything is moderated. False advertising.
- hsitty 10mo agoYou can’t generate anything meaningful on the paid version either. Naked woman and woman in bikini get blocked like 9/10 times. $30/month. False advertising. USA