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The API is not banned only using the Claude Code subscription is I actually tried this several months back to do a regular API request using the CC subscriptio

The API is not banned only using the Claude Code subscription is I actually tried this several months back to do a regular API request using the CC subscription token and it gave the same error message So this software must have been pretending to be Claude Code in order to get around that A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software, I think this is totally fair

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prydt 10mo ago
Came here to say this. Using opencode with the API works fine.
- ashishgupta2209 10mo ago
  Same
hsbauauvhabzb 10mo ago
Yeah, you shouldn’t infringe the copywrite of a tool written by a company which is built off of copywrite infringement.
- weird-eye-issue 10mo ago
  First of all you mean "copyright". Second of all this has literally nothing to do with copyright
creativeSlumber 10mo ago
> A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software. why not though? aren't you paying for the model usage regardless of the client you use?
- weird-eye-issue 10mo ago
  That's not up to you or me. I think it's pretty clear by the phrase "Claude Code subscription" that it's meant for only "Claude Code". Why are you confused? This could be so easily abused by companies who spend thousands of dollars per month for API costs you could just reverse engineer it and use the subscription tokens to get that down to a few hundred
  - gpm 10mo ago
    That phrase isn't the official one. It's "The Max Plan" which "combines Claude Desktop and mobile apps and Claude Code in one subscription".
    - fastball 10mo ago
      Yes, so... pretty clearly not OpenCode.
    - weird-eye-issue 10mo ago
      Yeah, exactly.
  - casparvitch 10mo ago
    IDK if Anthropic wants to offer a service at below cost, I don't think they should gate keep which client you access that service over. Or in other terms, I won't use a service that locks me into a client I don't like.
    - BoiledCabbage 10mo ago
      > IDK if Anthropic wants to offer a service at below cost, I don't think they should gate keep which client you access that service over. Are you going to say why you think they shouldn't? You didn't give a reason.
    - firloop 10mo ago
      How do you draw that conclusion? If Anthropic wants to offer a service at below cost, they seem a lot more justified in restricting how and where they subsidize usage.
nextaccountic 10mo ago
Is Claude Code still available on IDEs through ACP? Like https://zed.dev/docs/ai/external-agents https://zed.dev/docs/ai/external-agents
- lemming 10mo ago
  Should be, yes - ACP is basically just a different way of invoking the agent, so you're still using Claude Code. It's alternative clients like OpenCode, the CharmBracelet one and pi which will be affected - they basically reimplement the agent part and just call the API directly.
- Syzygies 10mo ago
  Yes. I've been using it today with Zed (a mind-blowing editor, by the way). One must use an API key to work through Zed, but my Max subscription can be used with Claude Code as an external agent via Zed ACP. And there's some integration; it's a better experience than Claude Code in a terminal next to file viewing in an editor.
protocolture 10mo ago
>A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software, I think this is totally fair Strongly disagree. They are just trying to moat.
- iwontberude 10mo ago
  It’s a private API. What part of this is hard to understand? This is why you don’t code against undocumented APIs with no contract. It’s self destructive.
sfmike 10mo ago
but if something is used in CLI it makes sense it would be in order to be used with other things in the CLI
JimmaDaRustla 10mo ago
> A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software, I think this is totally fair Why the hell not? What an L take - if I pay a subscription fee for an API, I should be able to use that API however I want. If they're forcing users to only consume their APIs with a proprietary piece of software, it really begs what's in that software that makes it valuable to them. Seems like there's something nefarious involved.

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prydt 10mo ago

Came here to say this. Using opencode with the API works fine.

ashishgupta2209 10mo ago
Same

hsbauauvhabzb 10mo ago

Yeah, you shouldn’t infringe the copywrite of a tool written by a company which is built off of copywrite infringement.

weird-eye-issue 10mo ago
First of all you mean "copyright". Second of all this has literally nothing to do with copyright

creativeSlumber 10mo ago

> A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software. why not though? aren't you paying for the model usage regardless of the client you use?

weird-eye-issue 10mo ago
That's not up to you or me. I think it's pretty clear by the phrase "Claude Code subscription" that it's meant for only "Claude Code". Why are you confused? This could be so easily abused by companies who spend thousands of dollars per month for API costs you could just reverse engineer it and use the subscription tokens to get that down to a few hundred
- gpm 10mo ago
  That phrase isn't the official one. It's "The Max Plan" which "combines Claude Desktop and mobile apps and Claude Code in one subscription".
  - fastball 10mo ago
    Yes, so... pretty clearly not OpenCode.
  - weird-eye-issue 10mo ago
    Yeah, exactly.
- casparvitch 10mo ago
  IDK if Anthropic wants to offer a service at below cost, I don't think they should gate keep which client you access that service over. Or in other terms, I won't use a service that locks me into a client I don't like.
  - BoiledCabbage 10mo ago
    > IDK if Anthropic wants to offer a service at below cost, I don't think they should gate keep which client you access that service over. Are you going to say why you think they shouldn't? You didn't give a reason.
  - firloop 10mo ago
    How do you draw that conclusion? If Anthropic wants to offer a service at below cost, they seem a lot more justified in restricting how and where they subsidize usage.

nextaccountic 10mo ago

Is Claude Code still available on IDEs through ACP? Like https://zed.dev/docs/ai/external-agents https://zed.dev/docs/ai/external-agents

lemming 10mo ago
Should be, yes - ACP is basically just a different way of invoking the agent, so you're still using Claude Code. It's alternative clients like OpenCode, the CharmBracelet one and pi which will be affected - they basically reimplement the agent part and just call the API directly.
Syzygies 10mo ago
Yes. I've been using it today with Zed (a mind-blowing editor, by the way). One must use an API key to work through Zed, but my Max subscription can be used with Claude Code as an external agent via Zed ACP. And there's some integration; it's a better experience than Claude Code in a terminal next to file viewing in an editor.

protocolture 10mo ago

>A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software, I think this is totally fair Strongly disagree. They are just trying to moat.

iwontberude 10mo ago
It’s a private API. What part of this is hard to understand? This is why you don’t code against undocumented APIs with no contract. It’s self destructive.

sfmike 10mo ago

but if something is used in CLI it makes sense it would be in order to be used with other things in the CLI

JimmaDaRustla 10mo ago

> A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software, I think this is totally fair Why the hell not? What an L take - if I pay a subscription fee for an API, I should be able to use that API however I want. If they're forcing users to only consume their APIs with a proprietary piece of software, it really begs what's in that software that makes it valuable to them. Seems like there's something nefarious involved.