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When Jobs was alive I could still play YouTube videos with my screen locked, I could listen to music with a set of conventional headphones, and iOS did not yet

by lurk2 9mo ago

When Jobs was alive I could still play YouTube videos with my screen locked, I could listen to music with a set of conventional headphones, and iOS did not yet suffer from the storage bug.

IAmBroom 9mo ago
So, the trains ran on time?
- lurk2 9mo ago
  The implication being that Steve Jobs was the leader of a genocidal regime and I am his supporter?
burnte 9mo ago
> When Jobs was alive I could still play YouTube videos with my screen locked I still can today. It's background mode, part of Youtube Premium. > I could listen to music with a set of conventional headphones You can still do that, too. USB-C to headphone adapters are easy to use and cheap. Lots of folks complain about the lack of headphone jacks, but if you have a cable from your headphones, 4 more inches for the adapter at the end is not a problem. > and iOS did not yet suffer from the storage bug. No but when he was alive it had lots of other bugs. And Steve was still not a great person. So for all these allowances, we can't rewrite history.
- lurk2 9mo ago
  > I still can today. It's background mode, part of Youtube Premium. If you’re trying to make the case that things are just as good under Tim Cook as they were under Jobs, paywalling commonly-used features behind a monthly subscription is not an argument in your favor. > You can still do that, too. USB-C to headphone adapters are easy to use and cheap. Using an adapter means I can’t charge the device while I’m using headphones. It’s also pointlessly cumbersome.
  - burnte 9mo ago
    > If you’re trying to make the case that things are just as good under Tim Cook as they were under Jobs, I never made such an argument. > paywalling commonly-used features behind a monthly subscription is not an argument in your favor. Blame Paypal, not Apple. Apple's to blame for plenty anyway. > Using an adapter means I can’t charge the device while I’m using headphones. It’s also pointlessly cumbersome. It's not cumbersome AT ALL if you're already carrying headphones. Many phones charge wirelessly so you CAN charge them while using a USB-C headphone adapter.
    - burnte 9mo ago
      Typo: Blame Youtube not Apple.
    - lurk2 9mo ago
      > It's not cumbersome AT ALL if you're already carrying headphones. Many phones charge wirelessly so you CAN charge them while using a USB-C headphone adapter. You are being willfully obtuse.
      - burnte 9mo ago
        I am never willfully obtuse. It's an asshole move. In this case I GENUINELY do not see how it's cumbersome at all. I've done it. I used cell phones before they used the standard headphone jack, and tended to use the smaller trrs with a Y adapter to breakout mic from output, even that didn't bother me, I left it attached to the headset I sued with those devices. I find the wired part the most cumbersome, so the addition of 3 inches of cable for the adapter never made even the tiniest difference to me. I moved to Bluetooth very early. Look at this: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mw2q3am/a/usb-c-to-35-mm-headphone-jack-adapter?cid=aos-us-seo-pla-accessories https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mw2q3am/a/usb-c-to-35-mm-... It's 3 inches, 5 grams of weight, and it stays attached to the end of the headphone cord. It's a joke to say carrying this along with a wired headphone/earphone is cumbersome.

by lurk2 9mo ago

When Jobs was alive I could still play YouTube videos with my screen locked, I could listen to music with a set of conventional headphones, and iOS did not yet suffer from the storage bug.

IAmBroom 9mo ago

So, the trains ran on time?

lurk2 9mo ago
The implication being that Steve Jobs was the leader of a genocidal regime and I am his supporter?

burnte 9mo ago

> When Jobs was alive I could still play YouTube videos with my screen locked I still can today. It's background mode, part of Youtube Premium. > I could listen to music with a set of conventional headphones You can still do that, too. USB-C to headphone adapters are easy to use and cheap. Lots of folks complain about the lack of headphone jacks, but if you have a cable from your headphones, 4 more inches for the adapter at the end is not a problem. > and iOS did not yet suffer from the storage bug. No but when he was alive it had lots of other bugs. And Steve was still not a great person. So for all these allowances, we can't rewrite history.

lurk2 9mo ago
> I still can today. It's background mode, part of Youtube Premium. If you’re trying to make the case that things are just as good under Tim Cook as they were under Jobs, paywalling commonly-used features behind a monthly subscription is not an argument in your favor. > You can still do that, too. USB-C to headphone adapters are easy to use and cheap. Using an adapter means I can’t charge the device while I’m using headphones. It’s also pointlessly cumbersome.
- burnte 9mo ago
  > If you’re trying to make the case that things are just as good under Tim Cook as they were under Jobs, I never made such an argument. > paywalling commonly-used features behind a monthly subscription is not an argument in your favor. Blame Paypal, not Apple. Apple's to blame for plenty anyway. > Using an adapter means I can’t charge the device while I’m using headphones. It’s also pointlessly cumbersome. It's not cumbersome AT ALL if you're already carrying headphones. Many phones charge wirelessly so you CAN charge them while using a USB-C headphone adapter.
  - burnte 9mo ago
    Typo: Blame Youtube not Apple.
  - lurk2 9mo ago
    > It's not cumbersome AT ALL if you're already carrying headphones. Many phones charge wirelessly so you CAN charge them while using a USB-C headphone adapter. You are being willfully obtuse.
    - burnte 9mo ago
      I am never willfully obtuse. It's an asshole move. In this case I GENUINELY do not see how it's cumbersome at all. I've done it. I used cell phones before they used the standard headphone jack, and tended to use the smaller trrs with a Y adapter to breakout mic from output, even that didn't bother me, I left it attached to the headset I sued with those devices. I find the wired part the most cumbersome, so the addition of 3 inches of cable for the adapter never made even the tiniest difference to me. I moved to Bluetooth very early. Look at this: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mw2q3am/a/usb-c-to-35-mm-headphone-jack-adapter?cid=aos-us-seo-pla-accessories https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mw2q3am/a/usb-c-to-35-mm-... It's 3 inches, 5 grams of weight, and it stays attached to the end of the headphone cord. It's a joke to say carrying this along with a wired headphone/earphone is cumbersome.