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Tesla Model 3 Standard is 280HP/210kW. And it's only really limited by the C of the battery pack. Under optimal conditions I've measured 310HP, according to the

by yardie 9mo ago

Tesla Model 3 Standard is 280HP/210kW. And it's only really limited by the C of the battery pack. Under optimal conditions I've measured 310HP, according to the Canbus app. EVs are incredibly powerful. Even the humble Nissan Leaf would blow the doors off an 00s performance car.

jedberg 9mo ago
I have a Leaf. It makes me laugh when people with "muscle cars" try to race me. One time I humored one of them, and completely smoked them off the line. And my car was still in Eco mode.
- gambiting 9mo ago
  We have a VW e-Up, with a very meagre 80hp electric motor - I can guarantee that off the lights that car is faster than pretty much any muscle or sports car, because it just instantly accelerates from standstil. I used to own an AMG few years ago, and to match what the e-Up can do I'd have to put it into Sports+ mode then enable launch control, then sit there with revs at 4000rpm just waiting for the light to change so the car would actually launch quickly. But off the standing start from idle? No chance.
  - foobarian 9mo ago
    The peak torque at 0rpm is a nice feature for city traffic low-key drag racing. I think if you really wanted to have a chance to troll an EV owner you'd have to incite them to race you on a highway with conditions that cause frequent speed changes in the 50-100mph range. But tbh even they you'd have a hard time. Maybe if you kept that up until they ran down the battery?
    - elictronic 9mo ago
      Never or arrested on a public road basically vs my daily driver is fun even when driving in the real world. It’s not loud is the last real complaint I see.
eulers_secret 9mo ago
The new model Y AWD non-performance does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds! The performance version is ~3.3; Ioniq 5 AWD is 4.6 and the N is 2.9 (!!!). For comparison the latest Corvette does 0-60 in 2.9 and the Z06 in 2.6. These cars are insanely, incredibly fast. My G70 (gasoline, ~370 HP) does the jaunt in 4.5. That used to be considered a fast car, now it's just average (though the warranty is almost over, and I'll be modifying it to ~450HP). TBH, electric cars 100% broke auto enthusiast circles. When a highly modified, very fast car just gets stomped by an electric car hauling a family of 4 it smashed that world to pieces. Especially in the early days, when EV enthusiasts were mostly Tesla techbro fanboys - who didn't really mix well with the oil, grease, gasoline, and DIY culture that was there before. Interesting times for sure.
- dekhn 9mo ago
  I really want to see a hybrid miata. the miata was a fun car but really lacked acceleration. A good new design would make it both fun to drive, and obscenely good at acceleration.
  - elictronic 9mo ago
    Very low range with the tiny size I would expect. Batteries will become more dense with time and we will get there.

by yardie 9mo ago

jedberg 9mo ago

I have a Leaf. It makes me laugh when people with "muscle cars" try to race me. One time I humored one of them, and completely smoked them off the line. And my car was still in Eco mode.

gambiting 9mo ago
We have a VW e-Up, with a very meagre 80hp electric motor - I can guarantee that off the lights that car is faster than pretty much any muscle or sports car, because it just instantly accelerates from standstil. I used to own an AMG few years ago, and to match what the e-Up can do I'd have to put it into Sports+ mode then enable launch control, then sit there with revs at 4000rpm just waiting for the light to change so the car would actually launch quickly. But off the standing start from idle? No chance.
- foobarian 9mo ago
  The peak torque at 0rpm is a nice feature for city traffic low-key drag racing. I think if you really wanted to have a chance to troll an EV owner you'd have to incite them to race you on a highway with conditions that cause frequent speed changes in the 50-100mph range. But tbh even they you'd have a hard time. Maybe if you kept that up until they ran down the battery?
  - elictronic 9mo ago
    Never or arrested on a public road basically vs my daily driver is fun even when driving in the real world. It’s not loud is the last real complaint I see.

eulers_secret 9mo ago

The new model Y AWD non-performance does 0-60 in 4.6 seconds! The performance version is ~3.3; Ioniq 5 AWD is 4.6 and the N is 2.9 (!!!). For comparison the latest Corvette does 0-60 in 2.9 and the Z06 in 2.6. These cars are insanely, incredibly fast. My G70 (gasoline, ~370 HP) does the jaunt in 4.5. That used to be considered a fast car, now it's just average (though the warranty is almost over, and I'll be modifying it to ~450HP). TBH, electric cars 100% broke auto enthusiast circles. When a highly modified, very fast car just gets stomped by an electric car hauling a family of 4 it smashed that world to pieces. Especially in the early days, when EV enthusiasts were mostly Tesla techbro fanboys - who didn't really mix well with the oil, grease, gasoline, and DIY culture that was there before. Interesting times for sure.

dekhn 9mo ago
I really want to see a hybrid miata. the miata was a fun car but really lacked acceleration. A good new design would make it both fun to drive, and obscenely good at acceleration.
- elictronic 9mo ago
  Very low range with the tiny size I would expect. Batteries will become more dense with time and we will get there.